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July 2, 2008 at 9:43 PM #232731July 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM #232556DWCAPParticipant
[quote=PadreBrian] ZERO hybrid power plants for normal family cars…they squandered their engineers on hybrids for their HEAVIEST SUVs.
Now THAT’S awful. [/quote]
Actually, from a fuel saving point of view, this is the best thing they could have done. The imporvenment from 10-15 MPG is so much better for us in terms of total oil demand than the increase from 30-35 MPG.
You are right though, in a company survival sense they do need a good car that gets very good MPG. They actually would be better off with 3 good milage cars. Hopefully they will accept the new fuel milage standards and move into the new reality where it doesnt cost $20 to fill your tank.
July 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM #232678DWCAPParticipant[quote=PadreBrian] ZERO hybrid power plants for normal family cars…they squandered their engineers on hybrids for their HEAVIEST SUVs.
Now THAT’S awful. [/quote]
Actually, from a fuel saving point of view, this is the best thing they could have done. The imporvenment from 10-15 MPG is so much better for us in terms of total oil demand than the increase from 30-35 MPG.
You are right though, in a company survival sense they do need a good car that gets very good MPG. They actually would be better off with 3 good milage cars. Hopefully they will accept the new fuel milage standards and move into the new reality where it doesnt cost $20 to fill your tank.
July 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM #232691DWCAPParticipant[quote=PadreBrian] ZERO hybrid power plants for normal family cars…they squandered their engineers on hybrids for their HEAVIEST SUVs.
Now THAT’S awful. [/quote]
Actually, from a fuel saving point of view, this is the best thing they could have done. The imporvenment from 10-15 MPG is so much better for us in terms of total oil demand than the increase from 30-35 MPG.
You are right though, in a company survival sense they do need a good car that gets very good MPG. They actually would be better off with 3 good milage cars. Hopefully they will accept the new fuel milage standards and move into the new reality where it doesnt cost $20 to fill your tank.
July 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM #232730DWCAPParticipant[quote=PadreBrian] ZERO hybrid power plants for normal family cars…they squandered their engineers on hybrids for their HEAVIEST SUVs.
Now THAT’S awful. [/quote]
Actually, from a fuel saving point of view, this is the best thing they could have done. The imporvenment from 10-15 MPG is so much better for us in terms of total oil demand than the increase from 30-35 MPG.
You are right though, in a company survival sense they do need a good car that gets very good MPG. They actually would be better off with 3 good milage cars. Hopefully they will accept the new fuel milage standards and move into the new reality where it doesnt cost $20 to fill your tank.
July 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM #232740DWCAPParticipant[quote=PadreBrian] ZERO hybrid power plants for normal family cars…they squandered their engineers on hybrids for their HEAVIEST SUVs.
Now THAT’S awful. [/quote]
Actually, from a fuel saving point of view, this is the best thing they could have done. The imporvenment from 10-15 MPG is so much better for us in terms of total oil demand than the increase from 30-35 MPG.
You are right though, in a company survival sense they do need a good car that gets very good MPG. They actually would be better off with 3 good milage cars. Hopefully they will accept the new fuel milage standards and move into the new reality where it doesnt cost $20 to fill your tank.
July 2, 2008 at 10:23 PM #232566CoronitaParticipant[quote]I heard a “rumor” that the 2010 Prius would have the capability for an after market electric conversion for about $4k. We’ll see.
But it goes to show that GM’s greed didn’t pay off. I feel bad for the employees, but the rest of the greedy pigs are getting what they deserve![/quote]If you’re talking about the li-ion battery on the prius..Good luck.. I read the adoption was delayed(again).
July 2, 2008 at 10:23 PM #232689CoronitaParticipant[quote]I heard a “rumor” that the 2010 Prius would have the capability for an after market electric conversion for about $4k. We’ll see.
But it goes to show that GM’s greed didn’t pay off. I feel bad for the employees, but the rest of the greedy pigs are getting what they deserve![/quote]If you’re talking about the li-ion battery on the prius..Good luck.. I read the adoption was delayed(again).
July 2, 2008 at 10:23 PM #232701CoronitaParticipant[quote]I heard a “rumor” that the 2010 Prius would have the capability for an after market electric conversion for about $4k. We’ll see.
But it goes to show that GM’s greed didn’t pay off. I feel bad for the employees, but the rest of the greedy pigs are getting what they deserve![/quote]If you’re talking about the li-ion battery on the prius..Good luck.. I read the adoption was delayed(again).
July 2, 2008 at 10:23 PM #232741CoronitaParticipant[quote]I heard a “rumor” that the 2010 Prius would have the capability for an after market electric conversion for about $4k. We’ll see.
But it goes to show that GM’s greed didn’t pay off. I feel bad for the employees, but the rest of the greedy pigs are getting what they deserve![/quote]If you’re talking about the li-ion battery on the prius..Good luck.. I read the adoption was delayed(again).
July 2, 2008 at 10:23 PM #232749CoronitaParticipant[quote]I heard a “rumor” that the 2010 Prius would have the capability for an after market electric conversion for about $4k. We’ll see.
But it goes to show that GM’s greed didn’t pay off. I feel bad for the employees, but the rest of the greedy pigs are getting what they deserve![/quote]If you’re talking about the li-ion battery on the prius..Good luck.. I read the adoption was delayed(again).
July 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM #232571CoronitaParticipant[quote]What will a Toyota Prius after dealer markup run you? 35k?[/quote]
Anyone who would pay $35k for a prius with all due respect is a fool, because even at current prices of $27k and today’s prices, it’s really going to take at least 7-8years before you even break even if you choose a prius over a fuel efficient compact such as a honda civic, assuming an rough annual mileage of 10k.
The other thing is that, it won’t be long before other manufacturers get on the hybrid bandwagon, driving prices down.
July 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM #232693CoronitaParticipant[quote]What will a Toyota Prius after dealer markup run you? 35k?[/quote]
Anyone who would pay $35k for a prius with all due respect is a fool, because even at current prices of $27k and today’s prices, it’s really going to take at least 7-8years before you even break even if you choose a prius over a fuel efficient compact such as a honda civic, assuming an rough annual mileage of 10k.
The other thing is that, it won’t be long before other manufacturers get on the hybrid bandwagon, driving prices down.
July 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM #232704CoronitaParticipant[quote]What will a Toyota Prius after dealer markup run you? 35k?[/quote]
Anyone who would pay $35k for a prius with all due respect is a fool, because even at current prices of $27k and today’s prices, it’s really going to take at least 7-8years before you even break even if you choose a prius over a fuel efficient compact such as a honda civic, assuming an rough annual mileage of 10k.
The other thing is that, it won’t be long before other manufacturers get on the hybrid bandwagon, driving prices down.
July 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM #232746CoronitaParticipant[quote]What will a Toyota Prius after dealer markup run you? 35k?[/quote]
Anyone who would pay $35k for a prius with all due respect is a fool, because even at current prices of $27k and today’s prices, it’s really going to take at least 7-8years before you even break even if you choose a prius over a fuel efficient compact such as a honda civic, assuming an rough annual mileage of 10k.
The other thing is that, it won’t be long before other manufacturers get on the hybrid bandwagon, driving prices down.
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