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March 5, 2009 at 10:03 PM #361803March 6, 2009 at 1:06 AM #361340CA renterParticipant
Can anyone see a day where big auto or some other big industry says they want the govt. to take over healthcare to “level the playing field”?
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Yes, and they’d be correct to do so.
Everyone needs to realize that taxpayers (and insured patients) **already pay** for the most expensive patients: children, seniors, and emergency room patients.
Not only would socialized medicine “level the playing field” for employers, but it would also enable employees to use their talents in the most productive way. Right now, many people are trapped in their jobs because they are afraid of losing their health benefits. They might have some excellent ideas and could start their own businesses or work for smaller start-ups, etc., but can’t do it if they are reliant upon their employers’ benefits.
What’s often overlooked, too, is that the government funds most medical research and development through grants to universities and research labs, and through the NIH, among other things. Private industries only pick up the technology once the initial development is done, and they feel they can turn a profit from it. Private industry is most involved in the middle and final stages of development and in mass producing the technology/medicine.
For a look at socialized medicine vs. privatized medicine, look here (try out different measures of health and well-being, and see what you come up with…we are nowhere near the top, and socialized countries outperform us in most areas):
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_pub_spe_as_of_tot-health-public-spending-total
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_ove_hea_per-health-overall-performance
March 6, 2009 at 1:06 AM #361636CA renterParticipantCan anyone see a day where big auto or some other big industry says they want the govt. to take over healthcare to “level the playing field”?
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Yes, and they’d be correct to do so.
Everyone needs to realize that taxpayers (and insured patients) **already pay** for the most expensive patients: children, seniors, and emergency room patients.
Not only would socialized medicine “level the playing field” for employers, but it would also enable employees to use their talents in the most productive way. Right now, many people are trapped in their jobs because they are afraid of losing their health benefits. They might have some excellent ideas and could start their own businesses or work for smaller start-ups, etc., but can’t do it if they are reliant upon their employers’ benefits.
What’s often overlooked, too, is that the government funds most medical research and development through grants to universities and research labs, and through the NIH, among other things. Private industries only pick up the technology once the initial development is done, and they feel they can turn a profit from it. Private industry is most involved in the middle and final stages of development and in mass producing the technology/medicine.
For a look at socialized medicine vs. privatized medicine, look here (try out different measures of health and well-being, and see what you come up with…we are nowhere near the top, and socialized countries outperform us in most areas):
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_pub_spe_as_of_tot-health-public-spending-total
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_ove_hea_per-health-overall-performance
March 6, 2009 at 1:06 AM #361779CA renterParticipantCan anyone see a day where big auto or some other big industry says they want the govt. to take over healthcare to “level the playing field”?
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Yes, and they’d be correct to do so.
Everyone needs to realize that taxpayers (and insured patients) **already pay** for the most expensive patients: children, seniors, and emergency room patients.
Not only would socialized medicine “level the playing field” for employers, but it would also enable employees to use their talents in the most productive way. Right now, many people are trapped in their jobs because they are afraid of losing their health benefits. They might have some excellent ideas and could start their own businesses or work for smaller start-ups, etc., but can’t do it if they are reliant upon their employers’ benefits.
What’s often overlooked, too, is that the government funds most medical research and development through grants to universities and research labs, and through the NIH, among other things. Private industries only pick up the technology once the initial development is done, and they feel they can turn a profit from it. Private industry is most involved in the middle and final stages of development and in mass producing the technology/medicine.
For a look at socialized medicine vs. privatized medicine, look here (try out different measures of health and well-being, and see what you come up with…we are nowhere near the top, and socialized countries outperform us in most areas):
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_pub_spe_as_of_tot-health-public-spending-total
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_ove_hea_per-health-overall-performance
March 6, 2009 at 1:06 AM #361820CA renterParticipantCan anyone see a day where big auto or some other big industry says they want the govt. to take over healthcare to “level the playing field”?
——————
Yes, and they’d be correct to do so.
Everyone needs to realize that taxpayers (and insured patients) **already pay** for the most expensive patients: children, seniors, and emergency room patients.
Not only would socialized medicine “level the playing field” for employers, but it would also enable employees to use their talents in the most productive way. Right now, many people are trapped in their jobs because they are afraid of losing their health benefits. They might have some excellent ideas and could start their own businesses or work for smaller start-ups, etc., but can’t do it if they are reliant upon their employers’ benefits.
What’s often overlooked, too, is that the government funds most medical research and development through grants to universities and research labs, and through the NIH, among other things. Private industries only pick up the technology once the initial development is done, and they feel they can turn a profit from it. Private industry is most involved in the middle and final stages of development and in mass producing the technology/medicine.
For a look at socialized medicine vs. privatized medicine, look here (try out different measures of health and well-being, and see what you come up with…we are nowhere near the top, and socialized countries outperform us in most areas):
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_pub_spe_as_of_tot-health-public-spending-total
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_ove_hea_per-health-overall-performance
March 6, 2009 at 1:06 AM #361928CA renterParticipantCan anyone see a day where big auto or some other big industry says they want the govt. to take over healthcare to “level the playing field”?
——————
Yes, and they’d be correct to do so.
Everyone needs to realize that taxpayers (and insured patients) **already pay** for the most expensive patients: children, seniors, and emergency room patients.
Not only would socialized medicine “level the playing field” for employers, but it would also enable employees to use their talents in the most productive way. Right now, many people are trapped in their jobs because they are afraid of losing their health benefits. They might have some excellent ideas and could start their own businesses or work for smaller start-ups, etc., but can’t do it if they are reliant upon their employers’ benefits.
What’s often overlooked, too, is that the government funds most medical research and development through grants to universities and research labs, and through the NIH, among other things. Private industries only pick up the technology once the initial development is done, and they feel they can turn a profit from it. Private industry is most involved in the middle and final stages of development and in mass producing the technology/medicine.
For a look at socialized medicine vs. privatized medicine, look here (try out different measures of health and well-being, and see what you come up with…we are nowhere near the top, and socialized countries outperform us in most areas):
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_pub_spe_as_of_tot-health-public-spending-total
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_ove_hea_per-health-overall-performance
March 6, 2009 at 8:26 AM #361390CardiffBaseballParticipantI am just looking at this from a cigar-filled back room, “how do we get this sold” perspective.
When the big honchos are in the board room with their cubans (ironic) and plotting strategy they have to convince a certain number of centrists to go along with socialized medicine. GM with it’s massive health-care benefit nut could point out to the administration that if they unloaded that mess, they could restructure and survive.
March 6, 2009 at 8:26 AM #361686CardiffBaseballParticipantI am just looking at this from a cigar-filled back room, “how do we get this sold” perspective.
When the big honchos are in the board room with their cubans (ironic) and plotting strategy they have to convince a certain number of centrists to go along with socialized medicine. GM with it’s massive health-care benefit nut could point out to the administration that if they unloaded that mess, they could restructure and survive.
March 6, 2009 at 8:26 AM #361828CardiffBaseballParticipantI am just looking at this from a cigar-filled back room, “how do we get this sold” perspective.
When the big honchos are in the board room with their cubans (ironic) and plotting strategy they have to convince a certain number of centrists to go along with socialized medicine. GM with it’s massive health-care benefit nut could point out to the administration that if they unloaded that mess, they could restructure and survive.
March 6, 2009 at 8:26 AM #361870CardiffBaseballParticipantI am just looking at this from a cigar-filled back room, “how do we get this sold” perspective.
When the big honchos are in the board room with their cubans (ironic) and plotting strategy they have to convince a certain number of centrists to go along with socialized medicine. GM with it’s massive health-care benefit nut could point out to the administration that if they unloaded that mess, they could restructure and survive.
March 6, 2009 at 8:26 AM #361978CardiffBaseballParticipantI am just looking at this from a cigar-filled back room, “how do we get this sold” perspective.
When the big honchos are in the board room with their cubans (ironic) and plotting strategy they have to convince a certain number of centrists to go along with socialized medicine. GM with it’s massive health-care benefit nut could point out to the administration that if they unloaded that mess, they could restructure and survive.
March 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM #361490CoronitaParticipant[quote=Scarlet]”edukation”
Is that some 1980s hair band or a spell in D&D? Or perhaps some melo-drama from your high-school picked-on days, similar to The Breakfast Club?
Nerd[/quote]
I thought that’s how you and your unionaw buddies spell. (close enough…).Anyway, I’d take being a nerd over being a factory worker anyday. Good luck with the BK process.
Anyone ever heard of going to college or doing a vocational program that pays you does more thinking than just assembling nuts and bolts? And some of the times, your buddies can’t even get that right. Doh!March 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM #361786CoronitaParticipant[quote=Scarlet]”edukation”
Is that some 1980s hair band or a spell in D&D? Or perhaps some melo-drama from your high-school picked-on days, similar to The Breakfast Club?
Nerd[/quote]
I thought that’s how you and your unionaw buddies spell. (close enough…).Anyway, I’d take being a nerd over being a factory worker anyday. Good luck with the BK process.
Anyone ever heard of going to college or doing a vocational program that pays you does more thinking than just assembling nuts and bolts? And some of the times, your buddies can’t even get that right. Doh!March 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM #361929CoronitaParticipant[quote=Scarlet]”edukation”
Is that some 1980s hair band or a spell in D&D? Or perhaps some melo-drama from your high-school picked-on days, similar to The Breakfast Club?
Nerd[/quote]
I thought that’s how you and your unionaw buddies spell. (close enough…).Anyway, I’d take being a nerd over being a factory worker anyday. Good luck with the BK process.
Anyone ever heard of going to college or doing a vocational program that pays you does more thinking than just assembling nuts and bolts? And some of the times, your buddies can’t even get that right. Doh!March 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM #361971CoronitaParticipant[quote=Scarlet]”edukation”
Is that some 1980s hair band or a spell in D&D? Or perhaps some melo-drama from your high-school picked-on days, similar to The Breakfast Club?
Nerd[/quote]
I thought that’s how you and your unionaw buddies spell. (close enough…).Anyway, I’d take being a nerd over being a factory worker anyday. Good luck with the BK process.
Anyone ever heard of going to college or doing a vocational program that pays you does more thinking than just assembling nuts and bolts? And some of the times, your buddies can’t even get that right. Doh! -
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