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May 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM #205688May 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM #205568rubbieslippersParticipant
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Sorry, I get HOT when people suggest that because you are a liberal minded person(more to the middle/my husband is a “reformed republican” also to the middle) you are somehow not patriotic.
Though I may be throwing my vote away, I will vote on principle in this case.
” What is the result of sex between the male and the female of the species? The result is offspring. The result is procreation. The result is the next generation of our species.”
WTF? So everytime your having sex your trying to have children?
I AM DOING IT ALL WRONG. I was trying to have an orgasm.;)
“I never said I was perfect or Ms. Holier-than-thou. I do a lot of things against my religion and what the Bible says is wrong, I don’t hide that, but that doesn’t mean I can’t express my opinion on gay marriages.”
Marion
I love you, but, I am sorry to have to break this to you girl. The bible is NOT comepletely fact. Can you remember the first post on this topic. Everything that it said perfectly? Probably not, so how then can a book handed down by word of mouth for 60 to 100 years before it was written down be factual? So whatever you did, I am sure your not going to hell for or is wrong. Believe in yourself.
May 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM #205621rubbieslippersParticipantequalizer
Sorry, I get HOT when people suggest that because you are a liberal minded person(more to the middle/my husband is a “reformed republican” also to the middle) you are somehow not patriotic.
Though I may be throwing my vote away, I will vote on principle in this case.
” What is the result of sex between the male and the female of the species? The result is offspring. The result is procreation. The result is the next generation of our species.”
WTF? So everytime your having sex your trying to have children?
I AM DOING IT ALL WRONG. I was trying to have an orgasm.;)
“I never said I was perfect or Ms. Holier-than-thou. I do a lot of things against my religion and what the Bible says is wrong, I don’t hide that, but that doesn’t mean I can’t express my opinion on gay marriages.”
Marion
I love you, but, I am sorry to have to break this to you girl. The bible is NOT comepletely fact. Can you remember the first post on this topic. Everything that it said perfectly? Probably not, so how then can a book handed down by word of mouth for 60 to 100 years before it was written down be factual? So whatever you did, I am sure your not going to hell for or is wrong. Believe in yourself.
May 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM #205649rubbieslippersParticipantequalizer
Sorry, I get HOT when people suggest that because you are a liberal minded person(more to the middle/my husband is a “reformed republican” also to the middle) you are somehow not patriotic.
Though I may be throwing my vote away, I will vote on principle in this case.
” What is the result of sex between the male and the female of the species? The result is offspring. The result is procreation. The result is the next generation of our species.”
WTF? So everytime your having sex your trying to have children?
I AM DOING IT ALL WRONG. I was trying to have an orgasm.;)
“I never said I was perfect or Ms. Holier-than-thou. I do a lot of things against my religion and what the Bible says is wrong, I don’t hide that, but that doesn’t mean I can’t express my opinion on gay marriages.”
Marion
I love you, but, I am sorry to have to break this to you girl. The bible is NOT comepletely fact. Can you remember the first post on this topic. Everything that it said perfectly? Probably not, so how then can a book handed down by word of mouth for 60 to 100 years before it was written down be factual? So whatever you did, I am sure your not going to hell for or is wrong. Believe in yourself.
May 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM #205672rubbieslippersParticipantequalizer
Sorry, I get HOT when people suggest that because you are a liberal minded person(more to the middle/my husband is a “reformed republican” also to the middle) you are somehow not patriotic.
Though I may be throwing my vote away, I will vote on principle in this case.
” What is the result of sex between the male and the female of the species? The result is offspring. The result is procreation. The result is the next generation of our species.”
WTF? So everytime your having sex your trying to have children?
I AM DOING IT ALL WRONG. I was trying to have an orgasm.;)
“I never said I was perfect or Ms. Holier-than-thou. I do a lot of things against my religion and what the Bible says is wrong, I don’t hide that, but that doesn’t mean I can’t express my opinion on gay marriages.”
Marion
I love you, but, I am sorry to have to break this to you girl. The bible is NOT comepletely fact. Can you remember the first post on this topic. Everything that it said perfectly? Probably not, so how then can a book handed down by word of mouth for 60 to 100 years before it was written down be factual? So whatever you did, I am sure your not going to hell for or is wrong. Believe in yourself.
May 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM #205703rubbieslippersParticipantequalizer
Sorry, I get HOT when people suggest that because you are a liberal minded person(more to the middle/my husband is a “reformed republican” also to the middle) you are somehow not patriotic.
Though I may be throwing my vote away, I will vote on principle in this case.
” What is the result of sex between the male and the female of the species? The result is offspring. The result is procreation. The result is the next generation of our species.”
WTF? So everytime your having sex your trying to have children?
I AM DOING IT ALL WRONG. I was trying to have an orgasm.;)
“I never said I was perfect or Ms. Holier-than-thou. I do a lot of things against my religion and what the Bible says is wrong, I don’t hide that, but that doesn’t mean I can’t express my opinion on gay marriages.”
Marion
I love you, but, I am sorry to have to break this to you girl. The bible is NOT comepletely fact. Can you remember the first post on this topic. Everything that it said perfectly? Probably not, so how then can a book handed down by word of mouth for 60 to 100 years before it was written down be factual? So whatever you did, I am sure your not going to hell for or is wrong. Believe in yourself.
May 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM #205585jpinpbParticipantFor all those concerned about gays getting married in churches, rest your worried mind. Churches are not obligated to marry anyone. Many churches are very stringent requirements.
For example, some Catholic churches require that you be a parishioner for a minimum of a year. Any mission in San Diego falls under Catholic churches. You have to be accepted as a parishioner. If you’ve been divorce before, you have to get an annulment through the church, a rather lengthy process where you have to prove the marriage should never have occurred in the eyes of God. Then the Pope has to approve it.
I am certain that churches will indicate who they will allow to be members of their church.
On another note, if I were gay, it would be difficult to follow some of the belief systems of the church and I probably wouldn’t want to get married in one. Why any gay people would want to get married in a church is beyond me. It seems like an odd choice on their part considering their lifestyle and I don’t understand their reasoning on that.
I continue also to find it amusing when people pick and choose which parts of the bible they wish to follow, accept and agree w/while condemning others for not following other parts.
May 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM #205636jpinpbParticipantFor all those concerned about gays getting married in churches, rest your worried mind. Churches are not obligated to marry anyone. Many churches are very stringent requirements.
For example, some Catholic churches require that you be a parishioner for a minimum of a year. Any mission in San Diego falls under Catholic churches. You have to be accepted as a parishioner. If you’ve been divorce before, you have to get an annulment through the church, a rather lengthy process where you have to prove the marriage should never have occurred in the eyes of God. Then the Pope has to approve it.
I am certain that churches will indicate who they will allow to be members of their church.
On another note, if I were gay, it would be difficult to follow some of the belief systems of the church and I probably wouldn’t want to get married in one. Why any gay people would want to get married in a church is beyond me. It seems like an odd choice on their part considering their lifestyle and I don’t understand their reasoning on that.
I continue also to find it amusing when people pick and choose which parts of the bible they wish to follow, accept and agree w/while condemning others for not following other parts.
May 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM #205664jpinpbParticipantFor all those concerned about gays getting married in churches, rest your worried mind. Churches are not obligated to marry anyone. Many churches are very stringent requirements.
For example, some Catholic churches require that you be a parishioner for a minimum of a year. Any mission in San Diego falls under Catholic churches. You have to be accepted as a parishioner. If you’ve been divorce before, you have to get an annulment through the church, a rather lengthy process where you have to prove the marriage should never have occurred in the eyes of God. Then the Pope has to approve it.
I am certain that churches will indicate who they will allow to be members of their church.
On another note, if I were gay, it would be difficult to follow some of the belief systems of the church and I probably wouldn’t want to get married in one. Why any gay people would want to get married in a church is beyond me. It seems like an odd choice on their part considering their lifestyle and I don’t understand their reasoning on that.
I continue also to find it amusing when people pick and choose which parts of the bible they wish to follow, accept and agree w/while condemning others for not following other parts.
May 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM #205687jpinpbParticipantFor all those concerned about gays getting married in churches, rest your worried mind. Churches are not obligated to marry anyone. Many churches are very stringent requirements.
For example, some Catholic churches require that you be a parishioner for a minimum of a year. Any mission in San Diego falls under Catholic churches. You have to be accepted as a parishioner. If you’ve been divorce before, you have to get an annulment through the church, a rather lengthy process where you have to prove the marriage should never have occurred in the eyes of God. Then the Pope has to approve it.
I am certain that churches will indicate who they will allow to be members of their church.
On another note, if I were gay, it would be difficult to follow some of the belief systems of the church and I probably wouldn’t want to get married in one. Why any gay people would want to get married in a church is beyond me. It seems like an odd choice on their part considering their lifestyle and I don’t understand their reasoning on that.
I continue also to find it amusing when people pick and choose which parts of the bible they wish to follow, accept and agree w/while condemning others for not following other parts.
May 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM #205718jpinpbParticipantFor all those concerned about gays getting married in churches, rest your worried mind. Churches are not obligated to marry anyone. Many churches are very stringent requirements.
For example, some Catholic churches require that you be a parishioner for a minimum of a year. Any mission in San Diego falls under Catholic churches. You have to be accepted as a parishioner. If you’ve been divorce before, you have to get an annulment through the church, a rather lengthy process where you have to prove the marriage should never have occurred in the eyes of God. Then the Pope has to approve it.
I am certain that churches will indicate who they will allow to be members of their church.
On another note, if I were gay, it would be difficult to follow some of the belief systems of the church and I probably wouldn’t want to get married in one. Why any gay people would want to get married in a church is beyond me. It seems like an odd choice on their part considering their lifestyle and I don’t understand their reasoning on that.
I continue also to find it amusing when people pick and choose which parts of the bible they wish to follow, accept and agree w/while condemning others for not following other parts.
May 16, 2008 at 12:08 AM #205613beanmaestroParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
May 16, 2008 at 12:08 AM #205666beanmaestroParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
May 16, 2008 at 12:08 AM #205696beanmaestroParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
May 16, 2008 at 12:08 AM #205717beanmaestroParticipantA key point for me is, as Mark Holmes posted early in the discussion, marriage rights are a life-changing, crucial matter for gay couples, and a preference (whether strong or weak) for the rest of us. One can oppose gay marriage, but stop well short of amending a constitution to ban it. To do otherwise is to hazard democracy becoming the proverbial two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
(Personally, I think initiative constitutional amendments are a travesty for exactly this reason)
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