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May 17, 2007 at 10:47 PM #9115May 17, 2007 at 11:36 PM #53479CarlsbadMtnBikerParticipant
Unbelievable … I can’t believe that A&E would not do some sort of due diligence on a show like that. That guy looks like he’ll be heading to jail soon. Maybe COURT TV (or even A&E) can do a reality show on his trial.
May 17, 2007 at 11:36 PM #53488CarlsbadMtnBikerParticipantUnbelievable … I can’t believe that A&E would not do some sort of due diligence on a show like that. That guy looks like he’ll be heading to jail soon. Maybe COURT TV (or even A&E) can do a reality show on his trial.
May 17, 2007 at 11:56 PM #53481drunkleParticipantfox *was* the network that did the show The Bachelor with the fake rich guy.
this guy was black. out of the majority of white folks that flip (and scam), they do an “expose” on this guy. yeah, fox is not hypocritical or racist.
May 17, 2007 at 11:56 PM #53490drunkleParticipantfox *was* the network that did the show The Bachelor with the fake rich guy.
this guy was black. out of the majority of white folks that flip (and scam), they do an “expose” on this guy. yeah, fox is not hypocritical or racist.
May 18, 2007 at 8:16 AM #53513PDParticipantDrunkle, your comment was ridiculous. The guy was engaged in fraud. Please prove the following before accusing Fox of being racist:
1) There were a number of white guys on Flip (this, that) house who were engaged in similar fraud.
2) Fox knew of these white guys who were engaged in fraud and had enough information for an expose on them.
3) Fox purposefully showcased the black guy and ignored the white guys who engaged in fraud.
I posit that if Fox knew of others, they would have showcased them as well. It would have made a much more interesting show and would have proved that fraud in these shows was systemic rather than an anomaly.May 18, 2007 at 8:16 AM #53522PDParticipantDrunkle, your comment was ridiculous. The guy was engaged in fraud. Please prove the following before accusing Fox of being racist:
1) There were a number of white guys on Flip (this, that) house who were engaged in similar fraud.
2) Fox knew of these white guys who were engaged in fraud and had enough information for an expose on them.
3) Fox purposefully showcased the black guy and ignored the white guys who engaged in fraud.
I posit that if Fox knew of others, they would have showcased them as well. It would have made a much more interesting show and would have proved that fraud in these shows was systemic rather than an anomaly.May 18, 2007 at 8:38 AM #53521JJGittesParticipantMost fraud (and crimes of violence, and crimes of [fill in the blank]) perpetrated on people of color is perpetrated by people of color. Think I am wrong, head down to the criminal courthouse on Broadway and spend a day sitting in on trials. Victims and perpetrators usually come from the same ethnic/racial groups.
But, I guess who cares about reality, there is too much to be gained from cries of racism. It’s a cottage industry.
May 18, 2007 at 8:38 AM #53530JJGittesParticipantMost fraud (and crimes of violence, and crimes of [fill in the blank]) perpetrated on people of color is perpetrated by people of color. Think I am wrong, head down to the criminal courthouse on Broadway and spend a day sitting in on trials. Victims and perpetrators usually come from the same ethnic/racial groups.
But, I guess who cares about reality, there is too much to be gained from cries of racism. It’s a cottage industry.
May 18, 2007 at 8:56 AM #53533PerryChaseParticipantI think that bias, hence racism, is part of human nature. We want the best for our own small group but want to keep others from accessing what we have (because self-esteem and happiness is relative to others). I can image a white family being biased against Blacks. But if a daughter marries a black man, and has children with him, than the attitudes will change.
That type of human bias is plainly obvious when you look at criminal law. Most voters support very tough penalties for criminals. But if one of their children commits a crime, they’ll plead for clemency, arguing that kid is a very good person who was influenced by “bad” people (ie other people’s kids)
I think that deflection is a human survival instinct. If one looks in the mirror and the only thing one sees is ugliness, then there’s no reason for living and reproducing.
Now, truly civilized and compassionate people recognize the bias and work to end it.
May 18, 2007 at 8:56 AM #53542PerryChaseParticipantI think that bias, hence racism, is part of human nature. We want the best for our own small group but want to keep others from accessing what we have (because self-esteem and happiness is relative to others). I can image a white family being biased against Blacks. But if a daughter marries a black man, and has children with him, than the attitudes will change.
That type of human bias is plainly obvious when you look at criminal law. Most voters support very tough penalties for criminals. But if one of their children commits a crime, they’ll plead for clemency, arguing that kid is a very good person who was influenced by “bad” people (ie other people’s kids)
I think that deflection is a human survival instinct. If one looks in the mirror and the only thing one sees is ugliness, then there’s no reason for living and reproducing.
Now, truly civilized and compassionate people recognize the bias and work to end it.
May 18, 2007 at 4:38 PM #53714drunkleParticipantgiven the history of faux, i have no reason to give benefit of the doubt.
keep in mind, whether or not the guy in the expose is a criminal is not the question. it’s the motives of faux, the sincerity of faux that i question.
May 18, 2007 at 4:38 PM #53725drunkleParticipantgiven the history of faux, i have no reason to give benefit of the doubt.
keep in mind, whether or not the guy in the expose is a criminal is not the question. it’s the motives of faux, the sincerity of faux that i question.
May 18, 2007 at 6:16 PM #53744PDParticipantIf you don’t like Fox, fine. Say so. But don’t call them racist for airing a story that featured a black man. Save that charge for when it is really true. It is just like crying wolf.
May 18, 2007 at 6:16 PM #53755PDParticipantIf you don’t like Fox, fine. Say so. But don’t call them racist for airing a story that featured a black man. Save that charge for when it is really true. It is just like crying wolf.
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