fixation on school districts

[zzz]

I agree with FLU about parental influence and peer influence. I went to a public school in a different state and it was by no means in a rich neighborhood. It was a large high school and what differentiated the education was whether you were taking AP classes. Yes there were a lot of Asians, but there were also whites, latinos, and blacks to a lesser extent in these classes. My friends and social circle were completely different than the kids in non AP classes. Most of my peers had been in an advanced track from the time they were in grade school. It breeds a very different mentality. Attending college wasn’t a question. It was how high is your SAT score compared to your friends or how well did you test, or where did you rank in your class? It was a highly competitve microenvironment within a school with many minority kids. Complete with gangs. It was about which colleges you got accepted into, not whether you were going. I had no concept if the non AP kids were thinking about college. My parents likewise always imparted the importance of education and college was never something I questioned until I actually go to college.

I agree that neighborhoods such as CV attract families who will do everything to buy a home there because of the school district. The people in that neighborhood are more likely to contain a peer group both at the parent level as well as at the kid level that are likeminded in their value system for education.

In my opinion, value of education has less to do with whether the parents are white collared or blue collar. It has to do with what type of profession the parents WANT their kids to be in, which are white collar ones. Parents, white or blue collar have to value education. I know many immigrant parents who may not have college educations due to lack of opportunity or access in their home country, but very much set the standard high for their kids. I also know white collar, college educated parents who are too busy, too selfish, too self absorbed, too hands off to provide guidance, participate in their children lives, or just fail to impart the value of education in their kids. Some of these kids flounder in life and don’t achieve the standard of living their parents do because education and working hard was never instilled in them.

[an]

This is what you said, “Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.”

If it’s as bad as you’re trying to make it out be, why is it still open and why didn’t the district pull their charter? I’ve seen incidents like this before to know I don’t trust everything I read from the news paper. They have their bias too. I’ve also see charter school getting their charter pulled for less than what you’re trying to insinuate they did, cheating and fraud. Name be another public school that have AP participation of 100%, each students taking an average of 4.7 AP classes with a pass rate of 31% and College Readiness Index of 95.8%? I guess USNEWS didn’t do their research before they vote Preuss as #10 top High School, or the California education system that vote them to be a California Distinguished School in 2007. I can go on, but you get my view of your accusation.

Maybe you should reread the post where I brought up Preuss. When you do, you’ll see that I used Preuss as an example of students with poor parents can do just as well in school if they’re driven and the environment permits it. Grade inflation does not always mean the teacher give your student the grade they don’t deserve. It could also mean the teacher don’t care, give such easy tests that you have to be pretty dumb to not get an A. I’ve been through the SDUSD from elementary on up and I can tell you, some teachers just doesn’t care and will just regurgitate the lesson plan the district give them. You can breeze through those classes without even paying attention and still get an A.

What you’re saying then is API scores are meaningless, since these stupid students at Preuss who got their grade w/out deserving it are still kicking ass in those tests. Is that your reasoning for insinuating school like Preuss are junk? As a parent, I’d take school like Preuss any day of the week over schools in Mira Mesa or worse. If you’re gonna crap on a good school by insinuating that they’re only “good” because their grade are fake, then take that same yardstick and measure the public schools in SDUSD.

[an]

This is what you said, “Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.”

If it’s as bad as you’re trying to make it out be, why is it still open and why didn’t the district pull their charter? I’ve seen incidents like this before to know I don’t trust everything I read from the news paper. They have their bias too. I’ve also see charter school getting their charter pulled for less than what you’re trying to insinuate they did, cheating and fraud. Name be another public school that have AP participation of 100%, each students taking an average of 4.7 AP classes with a pass rate of 31% and College Readiness Index of 95.8%? I guess USNEWS didn’t do their research before they vote Preuss as #10 top High School, or the California education system that vote them to be a California Distinguished School in 2007. I can go on, but you get my view of your accusation.

Maybe you should reread the post where I brought up Preuss. When you do, you’ll see that I used Preuss as an example of students with poor parents can do just as well in school if they’re driven and the environment permits it. Grade inflation does not always mean the teacher give your student the grade they don’t deserve. It could also mean the teacher don’t care, give such easy tests that you have to be pretty dumb to not get an A. I’ve been through the SDUSD from elementary on up and I can tell you, some teachers just doesn’t care and will just regurgitate the lesson plan the district give them. You can breeze through those classes without even paying attention and still get an A.

What you’re saying then is API scores are meaningless, since these stupid students at Preuss who got their grade w/out deserving it are still kicking ass in those tests. Is that your reasoning for insinuating school like Preuss are junk? As a parent, I’d take school like Preuss any day of the week over schools in Mira Mesa or worse. If you’re gonna crap on a good school by insinuating that they’re only “good” because their grade are fake, then take that same yardstick and measure the public schools in SDUSD.

[an]

This is what you said, “Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.”

If it’s as bad as you’re trying to make it out be, why is it still open and why didn’t the district pull their charter? I’ve seen incidents like this before to know I don’t trust everything I read from the news paper. They have their bias too. I’ve also see charter school getting their charter pulled for less than what you’re trying to insinuate they did, cheating and fraud. Name be another public school that have AP participation of 100%, each students taking an average of 4.7 AP classes with a pass rate of 31% and College Readiness Index of 95.8%? I guess USNEWS didn’t do their research before they vote Preuss as #10 top High School, or the California education system that vote them to be a California Distinguished School in 2007. I can go on, but you get my view of your accusation.

Maybe you should reread the post where I brought up Preuss. When you do, you’ll see that I used Preuss as an example of students with poor parents can do just as well in school if they’re driven and the environment permits it. Grade inflation does not always mean the teacher give your student the grade they don’t deserve. It could also mean the teacher don’t care, give such easy tests that you have to be pretty dumb to not get an A. I’ve been through the SDUSD from elementary on up and I can tell you, some teachers just doesn’t care and will just regurgitate the lesson plan the district give them. You can breeze through those classes without even paying attention and still get an A.

What you’re saying then is API scores are meaningless, since these stupid students at Preuss who got their grade w/out deserving it are still kicking ass in those tests. Is that your reasoning for insinuating school like Preuss are junk? As a parent, I’d take school like Preuss any day of the week over schools in Mira Mesa or worse. If you’re gonna crap on a good school by insinuating that they’re only “good” because their grade are fake, then take that same yardstick and measure the public schools in SDUSD.

[an]

This is what you said, “Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.”

If it’s as bad as you’re trying to make it out be, why is it still open and why didn’t the district pull their charter? I’ve seen incidents like this before to know I don’t trust everything I read from the news paper. They have their bias too. I’ve also see charter school getting their charter pulled for less than what you’re trying to insinuate they did, cheating and fraud. Name be another public school that have AP participation of 100%, each students taking an average of 4.7 AP classes with a pass rate of 31% and College Readiness Index of 95.8%? I guess USNEWS didn’t do their research before they vote Preuss as #10 top High School, or the California education system that vote them to be a California Distinguished School in 2007. I can go on, but you get my view of your accusation.

Maybe you should reread the post where I brought up Preuss. When you do, you’ll see that I used Preuss as an example of students with poor parents can do just as well in school if they’re driven and the environment permits it. Grade inflation does not always mean the teacher give your student the grade they don’t deserve. It could also mean the teacher don’t care, give such easy tests that you have to be pretty dumb to not get an A. I’ve been through the SDUSD from elementary on up and I can tell you, some teachers just doesn’t care and will just regurgitate the lesson plan the district give them. You can breeze through those classes without even paying attention and still get an A.

What you’re saying then is API scores are meaningless, since these stupid students at Preuss who got their grade w/out deserving it are still kicking ass in those tests. Is that your reasoning for insinuating school like Preuss are junk? As a parent, I’d take school like Preuss any day of the week over schools in Mira Mesa or worse. If you’re gonna crap on a good school by insinuating that they’re only “good” because their grade are fake, then take that same yardstick and measure the public schools in SDUSD.

[an]

This is what you said, “Preuss, are you serious? They are a prime example of what’s wrong with charter schools, rampant cheating and fraud.”

If it’s as bad as you’re trying to make it out be, why is it still open and why didn’t the district pull their charter? I’ve seen incidents like this before to know I don’t trust everything I read from the news paper. They have their bias too. I’ve also see charter school getting their charter pulled for less than what you’re trying to insinuate they did, cheating and fraud. Name be another public school that have AP participation of 100%, each students taking an average of 4.7 AP classes with a pass rate of 31% and College Readiness Index of 95.8%? I guess USNEWS didn’t do their research before they vote Preuss as #10 top High School, or the California education system that vote them to be a California Distinguished School in 2007. I can go on, but you get my view of your accusation.

Maybe you should reread the post where I brought up Preuss. When you do, you’ll see that I used Preuss as an example of students with poor parents can do just as well in school if they’re driven and the environment permits it. Grade inflation does not always mean the teacher give your student the grade they don’t deserve. It could also mean the teacher don’t care, give such easy tests that you have to be pretty dumb to not get an A. I’ve been through the SDUSD from elementary on up and I can tell you, some teachers just doesn’t care and will just regurgitate the lesson plan the district give them. You can breeze through those classes without even paying attention and still get an A.

What you’re saying then is API scores are meaningless, since these stupid students at Preuss who got their grade w/out deserving it are still kicking ass in those tests. Is that your reasoning for insinuating school like Preuss are junk? As a parent, I’d take school like Preuss any day of the week over schools in Mira Mesa or worse. If you’re gonna crap on a good school by insinuating that they’re only “good” because their grade are fake, then take that same yardstick and measure the public schools in SDUSD.

[Rich Toscano]

Thanks everyone for the comments. Very interesting… I definitely just got myself a crash course in school districtology.

Rich

[Rich Toscano]

Thanks everyone for the comments. Very interesting… I definitely just got myself a crash course in school districtology.

Rich

[Rich Toscano]

Thanks everyone for the comments. Very interesting… I definitely just got myself a crash course in school districtology.

Rich

[Rich Toscano]

Thanks everyone for the comments. Very interesting… I definitely just got myself a crash course in school districtology.

Rich

[Rich Toscano]

Thanks everyone for the comments. Very interesting… I definitely just got myself a crash course in school districtology.

Rich

[svelte]

Very untrue.

I work with people who pretty much all make six figure – well into the six figure – incomes.

As many of my co-workers live in San Marcos as live in 4S Ranch. (Including me – we live in San Marcos though we could pretty easily buy a SFR in CV. Two of my neighbors are pilots for Delta and United)

And actually, a great number of my co-workers live in Temecula.

[quote=goldfish]

If you income can support SFR in CV, you may decide to live in less expensive areas such as 4S. However, you are very unlikely to live in Escondido or San Marcos.

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[svelte]

Very untrue.

I work with people who pretty much all make six figure – well into the six figure – incomes.

As many of my co-workers live in San Marcos as live in 4S Ranch. (Including me – we live in San Marcos though we could pretty easily buy a SFR in CV. Two of my neighbors are pilots for Delta and United)

And actually, a great number of my co-workers live in Temecula.

[quote=goldfish]

If you income can support SFR in CV, you may decide to live in less expensive areas such as 4S. However, you are very unlikely to live in Escondido or San Marcos.

[/quote]

[svelte]

Very untrue.

I work with people who pretty much all make six figure – well into the six figure – incomes.

As many of my co-workers live in San Marcos as live in 4S Ranch. (Including me – we live in San Marcos though we could pretty easily buy a SFR in CV. Two of my neighbors are pilots for Delta and United)

And actually, a great number of my co-workers live in Temecula.

[quote=goldfish]

If you income can support SFR in CV, you may decide to live in less expensive areas such as 4S. However, you are very unlikely to live in Escondido or San Marcos.

[/quote]

[svelte]

Very untrue.

I work with people who pretty much all make six figure – well into the six figure – incomes.

As many of my co-workers live in San Marcos as live in 4S Ranch. (Including me – we live in San Marcos though we could pretty easily buy a SFR in CV. Two of my neighbors are pilots for Delta and United)

And actually, a great number of my co-workers live in Temecula.

[quote=goldfish]

If you income can support SFR in CV, you may decide to live in less expensive areas such as 4S. However, you are very unlikely to live in Escondido or San Marcos.

[/quote]

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