Feng Shui, is it important for you when buying a house?

[jimmyle]

I wouldn’t buy a house that is facing a T-Junction, Y-Junction or dead end road. Also, I would avoid buying a house with the sink and the stove directly facing each other, this can lead to arguments and conflict within the family.

Just my opinion.

[pertinazzio]

As for myself I am only truly comfortable in homes where classical portions have been observed. The symmetry of a Roman villa is conducive to a sense of inner harmony through subordination of randomness. You enter through the atrium and proceed into the peristyle, a columned courtyard decorated with statuary and fountains and small trees bearing fragrant fruit. You don’t need to worry about privacy fences because the exterior walls of the structure extend to the property lines and the backyard is, in effect, inside the house. Windows never face out into the world but only inward into the peristyle or impluvium. The over all feeling is one of complete mastery over the menacing possibilities presented by exterior chaos.

Beatus ille qui procul negotiis … paterna rura bobus exercet suis, solutus omni fenore….. Horace

[pertinazzio]

Vaastu or Vaastu shashtra is the ancient vedic system that corresponds to Feng Shui. Being a Hindu and not a Taoist (though I respect all paths), I prefer the specific methodologies of Vaastu. Through careful harmonization of physical and metaphysical forces Vaastu optimizes the flow of prana within the living structure and thus provides for the propitiation of hostile forces and almost guarantees that an auspicious and successful life is granted to all the inhabitants . After doing some research on the net, I have learned that an ideal vastu structure is remarkably similar to the above mentioned roman villa. My conclusion is that the romans were able to somehow intuit the principals of Vaastu without actually elaborating a formal set of teachings.

Beatus ille qui procul negotiis … paterna rura bobus exercet suis, solutus omni fenore….. Horace

[raptorduck]

I never realized why I like certain styles of homes and why I just love inner courtyards. Thank you.

[patientlywaiting]

I heard that the stairwell should never point directly out the front door (wealth will flow out) and a mirror should never face the bed (it’s like inviting strangers into your relationship). Also, if you want to attract love, put a pair of Mandarin ducks in the love corner of your bedroom (the love corner is different for each person and is based on the stars under which you were born). Exposed beams are not good because they create bad chi/energy (or poisoned arrows) in your home. Feng Shui is making a big splash in American architectural circles. Donald Trump and Larry Elison are big adherents.

Interestingly, the Chinese Mandarin house is also built around a central courtyard. Spain and Mexico have beautiful courtyard houses. They would be ideal for the dry climate of Southern California. The lawn is an import from the prairie (and England) and doesn’t belong here.

[zzz]

Yes to the stairwell – it should never face the front door. You should also not have an unobstructed view of the back door from the front door – again all good things will flow right through the home, out of the home. If you have a home office, or in your workplace, you should have your desk placed so that you are seated facing people walking in – you never want to turn your back on business.

Also, if you are a true believer in Feng Shui, you won’t have a pool in the backyard and you won’t be situated on a cliff. Water flowing in the back means missed opportunities. Not to mention bad luck. On a cliff – too much sun, lack of harmony, not to mention the likelihood your house might end up collapsing.

4 is also an unlucky number in many instances – not all – because of its close intonation to the word death. You’ll notice a lot of buildings in Asia skip the 4th floor much like we skip the 13th. Therefore you may want to look at your address and decide if the numbers are lucky or unlucky. 24 is particularly unlucky – meaning you will starve to death. 44 is also unlucky, but 48 is very good as is most numbers with an 8 in it. 8 rhymes with prosperity.

[zzz]

Split level homes

Also split levels homes are a definite NO! If you think about it logically, its a horrible flow for a home – practically with or without feng shui. It creates to much dissent, fracture, and lack of harmony in a home.

[zzz]

Split level homes

Also split levels homes are a definite NO! If you think about it logically, its a horrible flow for a home – practically with or without feng shui. It creates to much dissent, fracture, and lack of harmony in a home.

[zzz]

Yes to the stairwell – it should never face the front door. You should also not have an unobstructed view of the back door from the front door – again all good things will flow right through the home, out of the home. If you have a home office, or in your workplace, you should have your desk placed so that you are seated facing people walking in – you never want to turn your back on business.

Also, if you are a true believer in Feng Shui, you won’t have a pool in the backyard and you won’t be situated on a cliff. Water flowing in the back means missed opportunities. Not to mention bad luck. On a cliff – too much sun, lack of harmony, not to mention the likelihood your house might end up collapsing.

4 is also an unlucky number in many instances – not all – because of its close intonation to the word death. You’ll notice a lot of buildings in Asia skip the 4th floor much like we skip the 13th. Therefore you may want to look at your address and decide if the numbers are lucky or unlucky. 24 is particularly unlucky – meaning you will starve to death. 44 is also unlucky, but 48 is very good as is most numbers with an 8 in it. 8 rhymes with prosperity.

[Diego Mamani]

"A mirror should never face the bed (it's like inviting strangers into your relationship)."

Can you explain, logically, the process by which such a mirror would invite strangers to your relationship?

Isn't that kind of gullibility that makes people easy victims of market manias and bubbles?

 

[5yearwaiter]

Phew :-),,, as long as you have conflicts going with your spouse you are in good deal of life or not at any risk – conflicts make you both clear in long run unlike you calm and spouse calm and suddenly one fine day divorced each other.

Well come to the Feng Shui or anyother sentiments such as (as I heard “vaastu” from many Indian IT folks following) all these trends shows similar patterns that our old era need to follow. The reason we didn’t have electricity, nor airconditioning those such olden days. Today we route those all at our way and there is no need to really inclind all these trash in my opinion.

5yearswaiter

[5yearwaiter]

Phew :-),,, as long as you have conflicts going with your spouse you are in good deal of life or not at any risk – conflicts make you both clear in long run unlike you calm and spouse calm and suddenly one fine day divorced each other.

Well come to the Feng Shui or anyother sentiments such as (as I heard “vaastu” from many Indian IT folks following) all these trends shows similar patterns that our old era need to follow. The reason we didn’t have electricity, nor airconditioning those such olden days. Today we route those all at our way and there is no need to really inclind all these trash in my opinion.

5yearswaiter

[patientlywaiting]

A mirror should never face the bed (it's like inviting strangers into your relationship).

It has to do with the spirit leaving the body at night.  There are different spirits moving around at night and the reflections will shock and multiply them.  One of them may end up in bed with your wife!!

Isn't that kind of gullibility that makes people easy victims of market manias and bubbles?

Something like believing in Jesus Christ and that praying in church will save you from cancer? 

 

BTW, I don't truly believe in any of this.   But there's nothing wrong with creating a harmonious pleasing living environment.   Clutter is also very bad and is the worse source of bad chi/energy.   It's best to have an organized, clean and free flowing house.   I have seen some Asians who believe in Feng Shui, yet keep very cluttered houses.  With the clutter, they obviated all the good architectural Feng Shui. 

 

[Diego Mamani]

Something like believing in Jesus Christ and that praying in church will save you from cancer?

My point exactly. Or believing in the easter bunny, or the evil monkey in the closet. If you believe in one supernatural concept, what’s to stop you from believing in another? (Be it Jebus, the tooth fairy, etc.)

And if you are gullible and believe in flying spirits, the horoscope, or santa claus, what’s to stop a mortgage broker from taking advantage of your gullibility?

(With apologies to the Simpsons.)

[patientlywaiting]

Diego, LOL… I’m afraid that there are plenty of suckers to take advantage of.

But when you combine the principles of Feng Shui (space harmony) with architecture, the end result is pretty nice living space.

[patientlywaiting]

Diego, LOL… I’m afraid that there are plenty of suckers to take advantage of.

But when you combine the principles of Feng Shui (space harmony) with architecture, the end result is pretty nice living space.

[Diego Mamani]

Something like believing in Jesus Christ and that praying in church will save you from cancer?

My point exactly. Or believing in the easter bunny, or the evil monkey in the closet. If you believe in one supernatural concept, what’s to stop you from believing in another? (Be it Jebus, the tooth fairy, etc.)

And if you are gullible and believe in flying spirits, the horoscope, or santa claus, what’s to stop a mortgage broker from taking advantage of your gullibility?

(With apologies to the Simpsons.)

[patientlywaiting]

A mirror should never face the bed (it's like inviting strangers into your relationship).

It has to do with the spirit leaving the body at night.  There are different spirits moving around at night and the reflections will shock and multiply them.  One of them may end up in bed with your wife!!

Isn't that kind of gullibility that makes people easy victims of market manias and bubbles?

Something like believing in Jesus Christ and that praying in church will save you from cancer? 

 

BTW, I don't truly believe in any of this.   But there's nothing wrong with creating a harmonious pleasing living environment.   Clutter is also very bad and is the worse source of bad chi/energy.   It's best to have an organized, clean and free flowing house.   I have seen some Asians who believe in Feng Shui, yet keep very cluttered houses.  With the clutter, they obviated all the good architectural Feng Shui. 

 

[Diego Mamani]

"A mirror should never face the bed (it's like inviting strangers into your relationship)."

Can you explain, logically, the process by which such a mirror would invite strangers to your relationship?

Isn't that kind of gullibility that makes people easy victims of market manias and bubbles?

 

[patientlywaiting]

I heard that the stairwell should never point directly out the front door (wealth will flow out) and a mirror should never face the bed (it’s like inviting strangers into your relationship). Also, if you want to attract love, put a pair of Mandarin ducks in the love corner of your bedroom (the love corner is different for each person and is based on the stars under which you were born). Exposed beams are not good because they create bad chi/energy (or poisoned arrows) in your home. Feng Shui is making a big splash in American architectural circles. Donald Trump and Larry Elison are big adherents.

Interestingly, the Chinese Mandarin house is also built around a central courtyard. Spain and Mexico have beautiful courtyard houses. They would be ideal for the dry climate of Southern California. The lawn is an import from the prairie (and England) and doesn’t belong here.

[raptorduck]

I never realized why I like certain styles of homes and why I just love inner courtyards. Thank you.

[pertinazzio]

Vaastu or Vaastu shashtra is the ancient vedic system that corresponds to Feng Shui. Being a Hindu and not a Taoist (though I respect all paths), I prefer the specific methodologies of Vaastu. Through careful harmonization of physical and metaphysical forces Vaastu optimizes the flow of prana within the living structure and thus provides for the propitiation of hostile forces and almost guarantees that an auspicious and successful life is granted to all the inhabitants . After doing some research on the net, I have learned that an ideal vastu structure is remarkably similar to the above mentioned roman villa. My conclusion is that the romans were able to somehow intuit the principals of Vaastu without actually elaborating a formal set of teachings.

Beatus ille qui procul negotiis … paterna rura bobus exercet suis, solutus omni fenore….. Horace

[patientlywaiting]

Visited the renovated Getty Villa in Malibu. Very nice. Must have been nice to live the life a of Roman Senator in Ancient Rome.

[patientlywaiting]

Visited the renovated Getty Villa in Malibu. Very nice. Must have been nice to live the life a of Roman Senator in Ancient Rome.

[patientlywaiting]

Visited the renovated Getty Villa in Malibu. Very nice. Must have been nice to live the life a of Roman Senator in Ancient Rome.

[patientlywaiting]

Visited the renovated Getty Villa in Malibu. Very nice. Must have been nice to live the life a of Roman Senator in Ancient Rome.

[patientlywaiting]

Visited the renovated Getty Villa in Malibu. Very nice. Must have been nice to live the life a of Roman Senator in Ancient Rome.

[pertinazzio]

As for myself I am only truly comfortable in homes where classical portions have been observed. The symmetry of a Roman villa is conducive to a sense of inner harmony through subordination of randomness. You enter through the atrium and proceed into the peristyle, a columned courtyard decorated with statuary and fountains and small trees bearing fragrant fruit. You don’t need to worry about privacy fences because the exterior walls of the structure extend to the property lines and the backyard is, in effect, inside the house. Windows never face out into the world but only inward into the peristyle or impluvium. The over all feeling is one of complete mastery over the menacing possibilities presented by exterior chaos.

Beatus ille qui procul negotiis … paterna rura bobus exercet suis, solutus omni fenore….. Horace

[davelj]

Feng Shui is very important to my evaluation of any dwelling. In addition, I look for easy access to the house for Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Moreover, a back yard with lots of bushes is necessary for ease of hiding eggs and other magical treats brought by the Easter Bunny.

[davelj]

Feng Shui is very important to my evaluation of any dwelling. In addition, I look for easy access to the house for Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Moreover, a back yard with lots of bushes is necessary for ease of hiding eggs and other magical treats brought by the Easter Bunny.

[sdduuuude]

In God we Trust. Everyone else bring data.

Those in the “Feng Shui” camp bring no data.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I don’t know about Feng Shui …
but there are many reasons I would not to buy that split-level house, facing a T-junction, with the stairwell facing the front door with a pool in the backyard that you can see through the front door, in which the oven and kitchen sink directly face each other. Each of these is inherently a poor/ugly/bad design (well, except maybe the pool).

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I don’t know about Feng Shui …
but there are many reasons I would not to buy that split-level house, facing a T-junction, with the stairwell facing the front door with a pool in the backyard that you can see through the front door, in which the oven and kitchen sink directly face each other. Each of these is inherently a poor/ugly/bad design (well, except maybe the pool).

[justbought]

I understand the Y & T-junctions, and the dead end, but why is it bad to have the sink facing the stove, logically speaking?

[jimmyle]

The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.

[justbought]

I mean, is there some other feng shui reason for not having across from each other?

anyways, according to feng shui, is there a remedy, short of moving it? I do use dishwasher most of the time 🙂

[Ex-SD]

It’s also important to remember…………

*You don’t tug on Superman’s cape
*You don’t spit into the wind
*You don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
*And you don’t mess around with Jim………………da do da do…

[Ex-SD]

It’s also important to remember…………

*You don’t tug on Superman’s cape
*You don’t spit into the wind
*You don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
*And you don’t mess around with Jim………………da do da do…

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I mean, is there some other feng shui reason for not having across from each other?

Yes. An effective kitchen design is based on the work triangle.

http://www.kitchens.com/01-Kitchen-Design/Kitchen-Space-Planning/work-triangle.asp

Now, although there are configurations that follow the work triangle methodology that include having the sink and stove across from eachother, this requires a complete 180-degree turn when moving from one to the other. Other configurations that require less than 180-degree turns are significantly more efficient, and are truer to the goal of the work triangle of creating a useful efficient space.

[justbought]

Thanks, FormerSanDiegan.

[justbought]

Thanks, FormerSanDiegan.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I mean, is there some other feng shui reason for not having across from each other?

Yes. An effective kitchen design is based on the work triangle.

http://www.kitchens.com/01-Kitchen-Design/Kitchen-Space-Planning/work-triangle.asp

Now, although there are configurations that follow the work triangle methodology that include having the sink and stove across from eachother, this requires a complete 180-degree turn when moving from one to the other. Other configurations that require less than 180-degree turns are significantly more efficient, and are truer to the goal of the work triangle of creating a useful efficient space.

[justbought]

I mean, is there some other feng shui reason for not having across from each other?

anyways, according to feng shui, is there a remedy, short of moving it? I do use dishwasher most of the time 🙂

[briansd1]

[quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?[/quote]

This is more for practical reasons than anything else. Chinese cooking stinks up the entire house. Best to do it outside. That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods 🙂

[an]

[quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM 😛

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM :-P[/quote]

AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?

[an]

[quote=flu]AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?[/quote]
My house have a huge empty space above the kitchen. I could easily add another 150sq-ft of living space up there. That fan is huge.

[an]

[quote=flu]AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?[/quote]
My house have a huge empty space above the kitchen. I could easily add another 150sq-ft of living space up there. That fan is huge.

[an]

[quote=flu]AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?[/quote]
My house have a huge empty space above the kitchen. I could easily add another 150sq-ft of living space up there. That fan is huge.

[an]

[quote=flu]AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?[/quote]
My house have a huge empty space above the kitchen. I could easily add another 150sq-ft of living space up there. That fan is huge.

[an]

[quote=flu]AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?[/quote]
My house have a huge empty space above the kitchen. I could easily add another 150sq-ft of living space up there. That fan is huge.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM :-P[/quote]

AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM :-P[/quote]

AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM :-P[/quote]

AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM :-P[/quote]

AN, where the heck to you install this thing? Ceiling?

[an]

[quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM 😛

[an]

[quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM 😛

[an]

[quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM 😛

[an]

[quote=flu]That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods :)[/quote]
Yep, most people won’t getting. I got this one: http://www.broan.ca/product-detail.asp?ProductID=100527. Sure does a good job exhausting the air. 1100 CFM > 700-850CFM 😛

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?[/quote]

This is more for practical reasons than anything else. Chinese cooking stinks up the entire house. Best to do it outside. That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?[/quote]

This is more for practical reasons than anything else. Chinese cooking stinks up the entire house. Best to do it outside. That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?[/quote]

This is more for practical reasons than anything else. Chinese cooking stinks up the entire house. Best to do it outside. That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1][quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?[/quote]

This is more for practical reasons than anything else. Chinese cooking stinks up the entire house. Best to do it outside. That, or you buy an industrial sized range hood, like the ones made by San Yang Pai Sorry, most of you won’t get it. Chinese people will know.
These things sound like a jet engine when they startup.

http://www.sanyangpai.com/RangeHoods.asp?CatRangeHoodID=1

700-850CFM WhoHoo… The AMG of range hoods 🙂

[briansd1]

[quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?

[briansd1]

[quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?

[briansd1]

[quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?

[briansd1]

[quote=jimmyle]The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.[/quote]

Jimmy, I noticed that nice houses in Asia have kitchens outside the house. A breezeway separates the kitchen from the dining room. The food is prepared in the kitchen and that keeps the smell away from the main house. The houses have Americans style kitchens just for drinks (like a large wet bar area).

So if you have those big Viking stove thing in an open kitchen in the middle of the house, is that bad?

Is it a good or bad thing to have the kitchen the central focal point the house?

[jimmyle]

The stove in Asia represents wealth. It is also the positive energy (Khi) that ward off the dark energy (sickness, evil spirits, bad luck). The stove is the center of the family because it is responsible for cooking up the foods that feed and grow (physically and emotionally) the family and its members and keep the relationships warm.

The sink, if directly opposing the stove, possibly can put out the fire that keep the family healthy, properous and living in harmony.

[justbought]

I understand the Y & T-junctions, and the dead end, but why is it bad to have the sink facing the stove, logically speaking?

[sdduuuude]

In God we Trust. Everyone else bring data.

Those in the “Feng Shui” camp bring no data.

[patientlywaiting]

As I said before, I only believe it just for fun. There’s really no harm in conforming to Feng Shui principles, so why not?

I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’.

Here is what the Feng Shui master told me:

You should cut down the tree; but if it’s big tree, you should first ask for permission from the gods of the 5 elements.

Pray silently.

If it’s not your tree, try to convince the neighbors to cut it down.

Cutting down the tree improves the flow of Chi (energy).

A house that has a tree facing the front door will be inauspicious for the inhabitants.

First, it will be difficult to find a partner and get married. You will encounter obstacles in many aspects of your life.

If the house has children inhabitants, the children will get sick more frequently.

Trees on the side of the entry door are fine. But the tree should never be right in front of the door.

Many suburban houses have a hardscape walkway to the sidewalk. That’s a lot nicer (landscape wise) and better Feng Shui.

An L type walk-way from the driveway to the front entrance is not as good. A tree in front of the entry door is worse.

[Eugene]

[quote]I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’. [/quote]

corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.

[ocrenter]

thanks to whomever that revived the thread, I actually missed this post back in 2007.

some of feng shui makes no sense, some actually makes a lot of sense.

for example:

you don’t want to be a house facing the end of a T intersection. why in the world would you want to be a sitting duck for an out of control car going directly into your house.

stove and sink should not face each other. the logistic of it makes no sense. if you have two people in the kitchen, they’ll most likely be at the stove and at the sink, they’ll be bumping into each other to no end.

mirror facing your bed. no brainer. talk about getting a fright when you get up in the middle of the night.

house backing to a canyon. hello, you’ll be the first victim of a fire storm. not to mention coyotes and snakes.

do not have front door facing the back door. a thief just enters the front door, gather up all the goodies, and move straight out of the back door.

tree right out of your door. uh, you turn around to say good bye to your family, and oops, bump right into that darn tree!

[ocrenter]

thanks to whomever that revived the thread, I actually missed this post back in 2007.

some of feng shui makes no sense, some actually makes a lot of sense.

for example:

you don’t want to be a house facing the end of a T intersection. why in the world would you want to be a sitting duck for an out of control car going directly into your house.

stove and sink should not face each other. the logistic of it makes no sense. if you have two people in the kitchen, they’ll most likely be at the stove and at the sink, they’ll be bumping into each other to no end.

mirror facing your bed. no brainer. talk about getting a fright when you get up in the middle of the night.

house backing to a canyon. hello, you’ll be the first victim of a fire storm. not to mention coyotes and snakes.

do not have front door facing the back door. a thief just enters the front door, gather up all the goodies, and move straight out of the back door.

tree right out of your door. uh, you turn around to say good bye to your family, and oops, bump right into that darn tree!

[ocrenter]

thanks to whomever that revived the thread, I actually missed this post back in 2007.

some of feng shui makes no sense, some actually makes a lot of sense.

for example:

you don’t want to be a house facing the end of a T intersection. why in the world would you want to be a sitting duck for an out of control car going directly into your house.

stove and sink should not face each other. the logistic of it makes no sense. if you have two people in the kitchen, they’ll most likely be at the stove and at the sink, they’ll be bumping into each other to no end.

mirror facing your bed. no brainer. talk about getting a fright when you get up in the middle of the night.

house backing to a canyon. hello, you’ll be the first victim of a fire storm. not to mention coyotes and snakes.

do not have front door facing the back door. a thief just enters the front door, gather up all the goodies, and move straight out of the back door.

tree right out of your door. uh, you turn around to say good bye to your family, and oops, bump right into that darn tree!

[ocrenter]

thanks to whomever that revived the thread, I actually missed this post back in 2007.

some of feng shui makes no sense, some actually makes a lot of sense.

for example:

you don’t want to be a house facing the end of a T intersection. why in the world would you want to be a sitting duck for an out of control car going directly into your house.

stove and sink should not face each other. the logistic of it makes no sense. if you have two people in the kitchen, they’ll most likely be at the stove and at the sink, they’ll be bumping into each other to no end.

mirror facing your bed. no brainer. talk about getting a fright when you get up in the middle of the night.

house backing to a canyon. hello, you’ll be the first victim of a fire storm. not to mention coyotes and snakes.

do not have front door facing the back door. a thief just enters the front door, gather up all the goodies, and move straight out of the back door.

tree right out of your door. uh, you turn around to say good bye to your family, and oops, bump right into that darn tree!

[ocrenter]

thanks to whomever that revived the thread, I actually missed this post back in 2007.

some of feng shui makes no sense, some actually makes a lot of sense.

for example:

you don’t want to be a house facing the end of a T intersection. why in the world would you want to be a sitting duck for an out of control car going directly into your house.

stove and sink should not face each other. the logistic of it makes no sense. if you have two people in the kitchen, they’ll most likely be at the stove and at the sink, they’ll be bumping into each other to no end.

mirror facing your bed. no brainer. talk about getting a fright when you get up in the middle of the night.

house backing to a canyon. hello, you’ll be the first victim of a fire storm. not to mention coyotes and snakes.

do not have front door facing the back door. a thief just enters the front door, gather up all the goodies, and move straight out of the back door.

tree right out of your door. uh, you turn around to say good bye to your family, and oops, bump right into that darn tree!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Eugene][quote]corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.[/quote]

As we all learned from “Little Red Riding Hood”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Eugene][quote]corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.[/quote]

As we all learned from “Little Red Riding Hood”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Eugene][quote]corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.[/quote]

As we all learned from “Little Red Riding Hood”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Eugene][quote]corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.[/quote]

As we all learned from “Little Red Riding Hood”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Eugene][quote]corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.[/quote]

As we all learned from “Little Red Riding Hood”.

[Eugene]

[quote]I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’. [/quote]

corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.

[Eugene]

[quote]I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’. [/quote]

corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.

[Eugene]

[quote]I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’. [/quote]

corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.

[Eugene]

[quote]I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’. [/quote]

corollary: don’t ever, ever buy a house in the woods.

[patientlywaiting]

As I said before, I only believe it just for fun. There’s really no harm in conforming to Feng Shui principles, so why not?

I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’.

Here is what the Feng Shui master told me:

You should cut down the tree; but if it’s big tree, you should first ask for permission from the gods of the 5 elements.

Pray silently.

If it’s not your tree, try to convince the neighbors to cut it down.

Cutting down the tree improves the flow of Chi (energy).

A house that has a tree facing the front door will be inauspicious for the inhabitants.

First, it will be difficult to find a partner and get married. You will encounter obstacles in many aspects of your life.

If the house has children inhabitants, the children will get sick more frequently.

Trees on the side of the entry door are fine. But the tree should never be right in front of the door.

Many suburban houses have a hardscape walkway to the sidewalk. That’s a lot nicer (landscape wise) and better Feng Shui.

An L type walk-way from the driveway to the front entrance is not as good. A tree in front of the entry door is worse.

[patientlywaiting]

As I said before, I only believe it just for fun. There’s really no harm in conforming to Feng Shui principles, so why not?

I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’.

Here is what the Feng Shui master told me:

You should cut down the tree; but if it’s big tree, you should first ask for permission from the gods of the 5 elements.

Pray silently.

If it’s not your tree, try to convince the neighbors to cut it down.

Cutting down the tree improves the flow of Chi (energy).

A house that has a tree facing the front door will be inauspicious for the inhabitants.

First, it will be difficult to find a partner and get married. You will encounter obstacles in many aspects of your life.

If the house has children inhabitants, the children will get sick more frequently.

Trees on the side of the entry door are fine. But the tree should never be right in front of the door.

Many suburban houses have a hardscape walkway to the sidewalk. That’s a lot nicer (landscape wise) and better Feng Shui.

An L type walk-way from the driveway to the front entrance is not as good. A tree in front of the entry door is worse.

[patientlywaiting]

As I said before, I only believe it just for fun. There’s really no harm in conforming to Feng Shui principles, so why not?

I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’.

Here is what the Feng Shui master told me:

You should cut down the tree; but if it’s big tree, you should first ask for permission from the gods of the 5 elements.

Pray silently.

If it’s not your tree, try to convince the neighbors to cut it down.

Cutting down the tree improves the flow of Chi (energy).

A house that has a tree facing the front door will be inauspicious for the inhabitants.

First, it will be difficult to find a partner and get married. You will encounter obstacles in many aspects of your life.

If the house has children inhabitants, the children will get sick more frequently.

Trees on the side of the entry door are fine. But the tree should never be right in front of the door.

Many suburban houses have a hardscape walkway to the sidewalk. That’s a lot nicer (landscape wise) and better Feng Shui.

An L type walk-way from the driveway to the front entrance is not as good. A tree in front of the entry door is worse.

[patientlywaiting]

As I said before, I only believe it just for fun. There’s really no harm in conforming to Feng Shui principles, so why not?

I just learned there should not be a tree facing the front door, even if it’s across the street over at your neighbors’.

Here is what the Feng Shui master told me:

You should cut down the tree; but if it’s big tree, you should first ask for permission from the gods of the 5 elements.

Pray silently.

If it’s not your tree, try to convince the neighbors to cut it down.

Cutting down the tree improves the flow of Chi (energy).

A house that has a tree facing the front door will be inauspicious for the inhabitants.

First, it will be difficult to find a partner and get married. You will encounter obstacles in many aspects of your life.

If the house has children inhabitants, the children will get sick more frequently.

Trees on the side of the entry door are fine. But the tree should never be right in front of the door.

Many suburban houses have a hardscape walkway to the sidewalk. That’s a lot nicer (landscape wise) and better Feng Shui.

An L type walk-way from the driveway to the front entrance is not as good. A tree in front of the entry door is worse.

[pepsi]

I wonder what he would say about sunken living room, and raised entrance (the space between the door and the living room) ? Because I absolutely hate them. Generally, I can not see any good from these steps. They seems to be obstacles at best and could be very harmful if you are not too careful at night or for elderly guests.

[pepsi]

I wonder what he would say about sunken living room, and raised entrance (the space between the door and the living room) ? Because I absolutely hate them. Generally, I can not see any good from these steps. They seems to be obstacles at best and could be very harmful if you are not too careful at night or for elderly guests.

[pepsi]

I wonder what he would say about sunken living room, and raised entrance (the space between the door and the living room) ? Because I absolutely hate them. Generally, I can not see any good from these steps. They seems to be obstacles at best and could be very harmful if you are not too careful at night or for elderly guests.

[pepsi]

I wonder what he would say about sunken living room, and raised entrance (the space between the door and the living room) ? Because I absolutely hate them. Generally, I can not see any good from these steps. They seems to be obstacles at best and could be very harmful if you are not too careful at night or for elderly guests.

[pepsi]

I wonder what he would say about sunken living room, and raised entrance (the space between the door and the living room) ? Because I absolutely hate them. Generally, I can not see any good from these steps. They seems to be obstacles at best and could be very harmful if you are not too careful at night or for elderly guests.

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

I would avoid the T and Y thing if for no other reason than you will turn away about half the future potential buyers and renters for your home.

But hey if they give it to you at 75% off then that’s another story.

Just my two cents,

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

I would avoid the T and Y thing if for no other reason than you will turn away about half the future potential buyers and renters for your home.

But hey if they give it to you at 75% off then that’s another story.

Just my two cents,

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

I would avoid the T and Y thing if for no other reason than you will turn away about half the future potential buyers and renters for your home.

But hey if they give it to you at 75% off then that’s another story.

Just my two cents,

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

I would avoid the T and Y thing if for no other reason than you will turn away about half the future potential buyers and renters for your home.

But hey if they give it to you at 75% off then that’s another story.

Just my two cents,

[Nor-LA-SD-guy]

I would avoid the T and Y thing if for no other reason than you will turn away about half the future potential buyers and renters for your home.

But hey if they give it to you at 75% off then that’s another story.

Just my two cents,

[Coronita]

[quote]I wouldn’t buy a house that is facing a T-Junction, Y-Junction or dead end road. Also, I would avoid buying a house with the sink and the stove directly facing each other, this can lead to arguments and conflict within the family.[/quote]

absolutely! 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote]I wouldn’t buy a house that is facing a T-Junction, Y-Junction or dead end road. Also, I would avoid buying a house with the sink and the stove directly facing each other, this can lead to arguments and conflict within the family.[/quote]

absolutely! 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote]I wouldn’t buy a house that is facing a T-Junction, Y-Junction or dead end road. Also, I would avoid buying a house with the sink and the stove directly facing each other, this can lead to arguments and conflict within the family.[/quote]

absolutely! 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote]I wouldn’t buy a house that is facing a T-Junction, Y-Junction or dead end road. Also, I would avoid buying a house with the sink and the stove directly facing each other, this can lead to arguments and conflict within the family.[/quote]

absolutely! 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote]I wouldn’t buy a house that is facing a T-Junction, Y-Junction or dead end road. Also, I would avoid buying a house with the sink and the stove directly facing each other, this can lead to arguments and conflict within the family.[/quote]

absolutely! 🙂

[Nancy_s soothsayer]

This topic I like much!

I bought a house in the middle of two T-junctions like this: [–$*$–]; it has brought me so much good luck, so far. Sometimes I imagine I am the female version of Forrest Gump; destiny keeps dumping blessings and good luck along the way despite long odds. Good karma – please keep them coming.

Now do I have to convince the husband to lop off that young tree nicely growing but facing the front door?

If all the stars align again beautifully, we will close on a second house very near downtown Austin around beginning of November at the lowest-record locked fixed rates at $67/sq ft, brand new, stone/brick elevation, and all-appliances included.

Rationale for buying? The 401K plan has become untrustworthy, in my eyes. The house substitutes as a 401K-savings vehicle from now on.

Wish me luck – oh lucky stars (and PIGGS!)

[patientrenter]

Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.

[Zeitgeist]

Good luck Nancy. I think you are making it yourself by using your good intuition. Don’t forget the chimes, 8 horses and the color red when decorating.

[Zeitgeist]

Good luck Nancy. I think you are making it yourself by using your good intuition. Don’t forget the chimes, 8 horses and the color red when decorating.

[Zeitgeist]

Good luck Nancy. I think you are making it yourself by using your good intuition. Don’t forget the chimes, 8 horses and the color red when decorating.

[Zeitgeist]

Good luck Nancy. I think you are making it yourself by using your good intuition. Don’t forget the chimes, 8 horses and the color red when decorating.

[Zeitgeist]

Good luck Nancy. I think you are making it yourself by using your good intuition. Don’t forget the chimes, 8 horses and the color red when decorating.

[CA renter]

[quote=patientrenter]Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.[/quote]

Another good post, patientrenter.

What separated owners from renters in the past was, first and foremost, a hefty down payment. Secondarily, was the good credit score and proof of steady income (which could be waived with a hefty enough down payment, BTW).

The #1 way to prevent another foreclosure “crisis” is to require a minimum 20% down payment. Some exceptions can, of couse, be made for veterans and other people who have earned the exception.

[patientrenter]

CA Renter, I think you are right about that large (e.g. minimum 20%) downpayment requirement being the single best thing we can do to avoid a repeat of what we’re experiencing now. The article in the WSj recently by Stan Liebowitz outlines the evidence to support this, but it was in my gut years ago.

In fact, I pulled someone aside in my last company’s investment area about 2 years ago to say that they should prepare for much higher mortgage defaults. They responded that the investment folks were making sure that the MBSs they bought were super-senior AAA, with lots of collateral, and they did lots of analysis of the credit of the buyers etc. I recall saying that was fine, but make sure that the CLTV is less than 80%, and avoid over-exposure to CA, FL, AZ, and NV. I just felt that downpayments were the KISS thing to watch.

Until we squeeze out anything with less than 20% down for owner-occupiers, and 30% for others (at least anything from FDIC-insured banks, or FNMA or FHA or other govt support) then we are extremely exposed to a repeat of what we’re now experiencing.

[Ricechex]

Don’t buy a house at the bottom of a hill. The neighbors watering, and any possible plumbing issues, will go down the street and pool at the lowest house on the hill. The water will pool in the water meter, and gravitate to incoming water lines, and dump off in the house foundation. The City will claim it is not their problem, the Insurance company will deny the claim, and the neighbors will tell you that you have a plumbing problem.

[Veritas]

Bump- good thread

[Veritas]

Bump- good thread

[Veritas]

Bump- good thread

[Veritas]

Bump- good thread

[Veritas]

Bump- good thread

[Ricechex]

Don’t buy a house at the bottom of a hill. The neighbors watering, and any possible plumbing issues, will go down the street and pool at the lowest house on the hill. The water will pool in the water meter, and gravitate to incoming water lines, and dump off in the house foundation. The City will claim it is not their problem, the Insurance company will deny the claim, and the neighbors will tell you that you have a plumbing problem.

[Ricechex]

Don’t buy a house at the bottom of a hill. The neighbors watering, and any possible plumbing issues, will go down the street and pool at the lowest house on the hill. The water will pool in the water meter, and gravitate to incoming water lines, and dump off in the house foundation. The City will claim it is not their problem, the Insurance company will deny the claim, and the neighbors will tell you that you have a plumbing problem.

[Ricechex]

Don’t buy a house at the bottom of a hill. The neighbors watering, and any possible plumbing issues, will go down the street and pool at the lowest house on the hill. The water will pool in the water meter, and gravitate to incoming water lines, and dump off in the house foundation. The City will claim it is not their problem, the Insurance company will deny the claim, and the neighbors will tell you that you have a plumbing problem.

[Ricechex]

Don’t buy a house at the bottom of a hill. The neighbors watering, and any possible plumbing issues, will go down the street and pool at the lowest house on the hill. The water will pool in the water meter, and gravitate to incoming water lines, and dump off in the house foundation. The City will claim it is not their problem, the Insurance company will deny the claim, and the neighbors will tell you that you have a plumbing problem.

[patientrenter]

CA Renter, I think you are right about that large (e.g. minimum 20%) downpayment requirement being the single best thing we can do to avoid a repeat of what we’re experiencing now. The article in the WSj recently by Stan Liebowitz outlines the evidence to support this, but it was in my gut years ago.

In fact, I pulled someone aside in my last company’s investment area about 2 years ago to say that they should prepare for much higher mortgage defaults. They responded that the investment folks were making sure that the MBSs they bought were super-senior AAA, with lots of collateral, and they did lots of analysis of the credit of the buyers etc. I recall saying that was fine, but make sure that the CLTV is less than 80%, and avoid over-exposure to CA, FL, AZ, and NV. I just felt that downpayments were the KISS thing to watch.

Until we squeeze out anything with less than 20% down for owner-occupiers, and 30% for others (at least anything from FDIC-insured banks, or FNMA or FHA or other govt support) then we are extremely exposed to a repeat of what we’re now experiencing.

[patientrenter]

CA Renter, I think you are right about that large (e.g. minimum 20%) downpayment requirement being the single best thing we can do to avoid a repeat of what we’re experiencing now. The article in the WSj recently by Stan Liebowitz outlines the evidence to support this, but it was in my gut years ago.

In fact, I pulled someone aside in my last company’s investment area about 2 years ago to say that they should prepare for much higher mortgage defaults. They responded that the investment folks were making sure that the MBSs they bought were super-senior AAA, with lots of collateral, and they did lots of analysis of the credit of the buyers etc. I recall saying that was fine, but make sure that the CLTV is less than 80%, and avoid over-exposure to CA, FL, AZ, and NV. I just felt that downpayments were the KISS thing to watch.

Until we squeeze out anything with less than 20% down for owner-occupiers, and 30% for others (at least anything from FDIC-insured banks, or FNMA or FHA or other govt support) then we are extremely exposed to a repeat of what we’re now experiencing.

[patientrenter]

CA Renter, I think you are right about that large (e.g. minimum 20%) downpayment requirement being the single best thing we can do to avoid a repeat of what we’re experiencing now. The article in the WSj recently by Stan Liebowitz outlines the evidence to support this, but it was in my gut years ago.

In fact, I pulled someone aside in my last company’s investment area about 2 years ago to say that they should prepare for much higher mortgage defaults. They responded that the investment folks were making sure that the MBSs they bought were super-senior AAA, with lots of collateral, and they did lots of analysis of the credit of the buyers etc. I recall saying that was fine, but make sure that the CLTV is less than 80%, and avoid over-exposure to CA, FL, AZ, and NV. I just felt that downpayments were the KISS thing to watch.

Until we squeeze out anything with less than 20% down for owner-occupiers, and 30% for others (at least anything from FDIC-insured banks, or FNMA or FHA or other govt support) then we are extremely exposed to a repeat of what we’re now experiencing.

[patientrenter]

CA Renter, I think you are right about that large (e.g. minimum 20%) downpayment requirement being the single best thing we can do to avoid a repeat of what we’re experiencing now. The article in the WSj recently by Stan Liebowitz outlines the evidence to support this, but it was in my gut years ago.

In fact, I pulled someone aside in my last company’s investment area about 2 years ago to say that they should prepare for much higher mortgage defaults. They responded that the investment folks were making sure that the MBSs they bought were super-senior AAA, with lots of collateral, and they did lots of analysis of the credit of the buyers etc. I recall saying that was fine, but make sure that the CLTV is less than 80%, and avoid over-exposure to CA, FL, AZ, and NV. I just felt that downpayments were the KISS thing to watch.

Until we squeeze out anything with less than 20% down for owner-occupiers, and 30% for others (at least anything from FDIC-insured banks, or FNMA or FHA or other govt support) then we are extremely exposed to a repeat of what we’re now experiencing.

[CA renter]

[quote=patientrenter]Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.[/quote]

Another good post, patientrenter.

What separated owners from renters in the past was, first and foremost, a hefty down payment. Secondarily, was the good credit score and proof of steady income (which could be waived with a hefty enough down payment, BTW).

The #1 way to prevent another foreclosure “crisis” is to require a minimum 20% down payment. Some exceptions can, of couse, be made for veterans and other people who have earned the exception.

[CA renter]

[quote=patientrenter]Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.[/quote]

Another good post, patientrenter.

What separated owners from renters in the past was, first and foremost, a hefty down payment. Secondarily, was the good credit score and proof of steady income (which could be waived with a hefty enough down payment, BTW).

The #1 way to prevent another foreclosure “crisis” is to require a minimum 20% down payment. Some exceptions can, of couse, be made for veterans and other people who have earned the exception.

[CA renter]

[quote=patientrenter]Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.[/quote]

Another good post, patientrenter.

What separated owners from renters in the past was, first and foremost, a hefty down payment. Secondarily, was the good credit score and proof of steady income (which could be waived with a hefty enough down payment, BTW).

The #1 way to prevent another foreclosure “crisis” is to require a minimum 20% down payment. Some exceptions can, of couse, be made for veterans and other people who have earned the exception.

[CA renter]

[quote=patientrenter]Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.[/quote]

Another good post, patientrenter.

What separated owners from renters in the past was, first and foremost, a hefty down payment. Secondarily, was the good credit score and proof of steady income (which could be waived with a hefty enough down payment, BTW).

The #1 way to prevent another foreclosure “crisis” is to require a minimum 20% down payment. Some exceptions can, of couse, be made for veterans and other people who have earned the exception.

[patientrenter]

Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.

[patientrenter]

Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.

[patientrenter]

Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.

[patientrenter]

Not a bad move, Nancy.

But my bias for 401k alternatives is real assets that produce a steady real income. A home can be rented out. In a world where downpayments are not required (FHA 3% less tax credit) and mortgage rates are held low through government action (FNMA and Fed purchases of MBS etc), and there is no real penalty for walking away when underwater, it will be hard to rent any home that can be easily bought instead. Why would anyone want to rent a single family home that they can buy with little or no commitment and at low monthly cost?

I think we have not yet understood the full long term impact of the Great Bailout. Over the next few years, journalists and financial advisors and individuals will digest what is happening now, and come to realize that buying a home with little or no money down is a huge gift from the federal govt when paired with a plan for ruthless default. People will be buying homes with little or no commitment to paying the purchase price, to an even greater degree than in the last bubble.

Certainly people assigned temporarily to one location would prefer to rent, but the population of people in this situation is steady, and we can’t all make a retirement living by buying more and more homes and renting them to this small slice of our working population.

[Nancy_s soothsayer]

This topic I like much!

I bought a house in the middle of two T-junctions like this: [–$*$–]; it has brought me so much good luck, so far. Sometimes I imagine I am the female version of Forrest Gump; destiny keeps dumping blessings and good luck along the way despite long odds. Good karma – please keep them coming.

Now do I have to convince the husband to lop off that young tree nicely growing but facing the front door?

If all the stars align again beautifully, we will close on a second house very near downtown Austin around beginning of November at the lowest-record locked fixed rates at $67/sq ft, brand new, stone/brick elevation, and all-appliances included.

Rationale for buying? The 401K plan has become untrustworthy, in my eyes. The house substitutes as a 401K-savings vehicle from now on.

Wish me luck – oh lucky stars (and PIGGS!)

[Nancy_s soothsayer]

This topic I like much!

I bought a house in the middle of two T-junctions like this: [–$*$–]; it has brought me so much good luck, so far. Sometimes I imagine I am the female version of Forrest Gump; destiny keeps dumping blessings and good luck along the way despite long odds. Good karma – please keep them coming.

Now do I have to convince the husband to lop off that young tree nicely growing but facing the front door?

If all the stars align again beautifully, we will close on a second house very near downtown Austin around beginning of November at the lowest-record locked fixed rates at $67/sq ft, brand new, stone/brick elevation, and all-appliances included.

Rationale for buying? The 401K plan has become untrustworthy, in my eyes. The house substitutes as a 401K-savings vehicle from now on.

Wish me luck – oh lucky stars (and PIGGS!)

[Nancy_s soothsayer]

This topic I like much!

I bought a house in the middle of two T-junctions like this: [–$*$–]; it has brought me so much good luck, so far. Sometimes I imagine I am the female version of Forrest Gump; destiny keeps dumping blessings and good luck along the way despite long odds. Good karma – please keep them coming.

Now do I have to convince the husband to lop off that young tree nicely growing but facing the front door?

If all the stars align again beautifully, we will close on a second house very near downtown Austin around beginning of November at the lowest-record locked fixed rates at $67/sq ft, brand new, stone/brick elevation, and all-appliances included.

Rationale for buying? The 401K plan has become untrustworthy, in my eyes. The house substitutes as a 401K-savings vehicle from now on.

Wish me luck – oh lucky stars (and PIGGS!)

[Nancy_s soothsayer]

This topic I like much!

I bought a house in the middle of two T-junctions like this: [–$*$–]; it has brought me so much good luck, so far. Sometimes I imagine I am the female version of Forrest Gump; destiny keeps dumping blessings and good luck along the way despite long odds. Good karma – please keep them coming.

Now do I have to convince the husband to lop off that young tree nicely growing but facing the front door?

If all the stars align again beautifully, we will close on a second house very near downtown Austin around beginning of November at the lowest-record locked fixed rates at $67/sq ft, brand new, stone/brick elevation, and all-appliances included.

Rationale for buying? The 401K plan has become untrustworthy, in my eyes. The house substitutes as a 401K-savings vehicle from now on.

Wish me luck – oh lucky stars (and PIGGS!)

[Coronita]

A home shall not fan out from the backyard to the front.
The opposite (fan in) is fine.

[Coronita]

A home shall not fan out from the backyard to the front.
The opposite (fan in) is fine.

[Coronita]

A home shall not fan out from the backyard to the front.
The opposite (fan in) is fine.

[Coronita]

A home shall not fan out from the backyard to the front.
The opposite (fan in) is fine.

[Coronita]

A home shall not fan out from the backyard to the front.
The opposite (fan in) is fine.

[edna_mode]

OK, feng shui aside, why are so many kitchens designed with such poor layout? they put the stove, sink and fridge in a line maximizing how many steps you have to take to do anything. some put the stove, dishwasher and fridge in such a way you can’t open more than one (you try putting leftovers away while another person does the dishes); others put a fridge AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS to the basement (try catching that round object that has spoinged out of the veggie drawer); others put the dishwasher so that it blocks the one path OUT of the kitchen.

and don’t even get me started on what kind of sadistic designer thinks it was ever ok to put the laundry FAR AWAY from where all the laundry is generated, i.e. the bedrooms and bathrooms. that is changing, but it really doesn’t jibe with the way people live.

and how the heck do handicapped people find anywhere to live?

[CA renter]

All good question, edna mode. 🙂

There are some exceptionally well-designed kitchens out there — even in small kitchens. It seems that a lot of new developments have akward layouts. One that gets me is the long (like 20 ft.) island right between the fridge and the sink or stove, so that you have to walk alllll the way around it to get something. Obviously, not designed by someone who’s ever had to work in a kitchen.

[CA renter]

All good question, edna mode. 🙂

There are some exceptionally well-designed kitchens out there — even in small kitchens. It seems that a lot of new developments have akward layouts. One that gets me is the long (like 20 ft.) island right between the fridge and the sink or stove, so that you have to walk alllll the way around it to get something. Obviously, not designed by someone who’s ever had to work in a kitchen.

[CA renter]

All good question, edna mode. 🙂

There are some exceptionally well-designed kitchens out there — even in small kitchens. It seems that a lot of new developments have akward layouts. One that gets me is the long (like 20 ft.) island right between the fridge and the sink or stove, so that you have to walk alllll the way around it to get something. Obviously, not designed by someone who’s ever had to work in a kitchen.

[CA renter]

All good question, edna mode. 🙂

There are some exceptionally well-designed kitchens out there — even in small kitchens. It seems that a lot of new developments have akward layouts. One that gets me is the long (like 20 ft.) island right between the fridge and the sink or stove, so that you have to walk alllll the way around it to get something. Obviously, not designed by someone who’s ever had to work in a kitchen.

[CA renter]

All good question, edna mode. 🙂

There are some exceptionally well-designed kitchens out there — even in small kitchens. It seems that a lot of new developments have akward layouts. One that gets me is the long (like 20 ft.) island right between the fridge and the sink or stove, so that you have to walk alllll the way around it to get something. Obviously, not designed by someone who’s ever had to work in a kitchen.

[an]

All good point edna, except for the laundry one. Keeping it away from the bedrooms allow one to sleep while running the laundry at night.

[an]

All good point edna, except for the laundry one. Keeping it away from the bedrooms allow one to sleep while running the laundry at night.

[an]

All good point edna, except for the laundry one. Keeping it away from the bedrooms allow one to sleep while running the laundry at night.

[an]

All good point edna, except for the laundry one. Keeping it away from the bedrooms allow one to sleep while running the laundry at night.

[an]

All good point edna, except for the laundry one. Keeping it away from the bedrooms allow one to sleep while running the laundry at night.

[edna_mode]

OK, feng shui aside, why are so many kitchens designed with such poor layout? they put the stove, sink and fridge in a line maximizing how many steps you have to take to do anything. some put the stove, dishwasher and fridge in such a way you can’t open more than one (you try putting leftovers away while another person does the dishes); others put a fridge AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS to the basement (try catching that round object that has spoinged out of the veggie drawer); others put the dishwasher so that it blocks the one path OUT of the kitchen.

and don’t even get me started on what kind of sadistic designer thinks it was ever ok to put the laundry FAR AWAY from where all the laundry is generated, i.e. the bedrooms and bathrooms. that is changing, but it really doesn’t jibe with the way people live.

and how the heck do handicapped people find anywhere to live?

[edna_mode]

OK, feng shui aside, why are so many kitchens designed with such poor layout? they put the stove, sink and fridge in a line maximizing how many steps you have to take to do anything. some put the stove, dishwasher and fridge in such a way you can’t open more than one (you try putting leftovers away while another person does the dishes); others put a fridge AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS to the basement (try catching that round object that has spoinged out of the veggie drawer); others put the dishwasher so that it blocks the one path OUT of the kitchen.

and don’t even get me started on what kind of sadistic designer thinks it was ever ok to put the laundry FAR AWAY from where all the laundry is generated, i.e. the bedrooms and bathrooms. that is changing, but it really doesn’t jibe with the way people live.

and how the heck do handicapped people find anywhere to live?

[edna_mode]

OK, feng shui aside, why are so many kitchens designed with such poor layout? they put the stove, sink and fridge in a line maximizing how many steps you have to take to do anything. some put the stove, dishwasher and fridge in such a way you can’t open more than one (you try putting leftovers away while another person does the dishes); others put a fridge AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS to the basement (try catching that round object that has spoinged out of the veggie drawer); others put the dishwasher so that it blocks the one path OUT of the kitchen.

and don’t even get me started on what kind of sadistic designer thinks it was ever ok to put the laundry FAR AWAY from where all the laundry is generated, i.e. the bedrooms and bathrooms. that is changing, but it really doesn’t jibe with the way people live.

and how the heck do handicapped people find anywhere to live?

[edna_mode]

OK, feng shui aside, why are so many kitchens designed with such poor layout? they put the stove, sink and fridge in a line maximizing how many steps you have to take to do anything. some put the stove, dishwasher and fridge in such a way you can’t open more than one (you try putting leftovers away while another person does the dishes); others put a fridge AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS to the basement (try catching that round object that has spoinged out of the veggie drawer); others put the dishwasher so that it blocks the one path OUT of the kitchen.

and don’t even get me started on what kind of sadistic designer thinks it was ever ok to put the laundry FAR AWAY from where all the laundry is generated, i.e. the bedrooms and bathrooms. that is changing, but it really doesn’t jibe with the way people live.

and how the heck do handicapped people find anywhere to live?

[svelte]

We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

There are some Asian sayings (Confucious?) that do ring true with us. Like “He who goes through airport turnstile sideways is going to Bangkok.”

So, so true.

[briansd1]

[quote=svelte]We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

[/quote]

My cousin and her husband live in a house with the stairs going straight out the front door.

The husband has always been a pretty arrogant guy even with the relatives. The company relocated him and that’s when he bought that house. Soon after, he got laid-off and hasn’t found a job since.

He started 2 businesses that didn’t do well. His wife went back to work.

He’s a huge conservative; and all the kids turned out liberal so they don’t even talk to him anymore. The kids moved on to college and he and his wife live alone in that big house.

He now has cholesterol and blood pressure problems.

He lives in Ohio (that could explain the unemployment) and good thing the house is paid off, but still…

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?

[svelte]

[quote=briansd1]

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?[/quote]

I’d say Great Recession.

I lived 15 yrs in that house and Life Was Good. Still is.

[briansd1]

I was told that the toilet should never be in the middle of the house.

That acts as a money pit for wealth, health, prosperity.

I can see how a toilet in the middle of house could be seen as a dirty dark well what will suck in the good energy.

That’s hard to avoid in single-level houses and in apartments.

What do you Asian guys say? Would you accept a bathroom in the middle of the house?

[Veritas]

Close the lid.

[Veritas]

Close the lid.

[Veritas]

Close the lid.

[Veritas]

Close the lid.

[Veritas]

Close the lid.

[briansd1]

I was told that the toilet should never be in the middle of the house.

That acts as a money pit for wealth, health, prosperity.

I can see how a toilet in the middle of house could be seen as a dirty dark well what will suck in the good energy.

That’s hard to avoid in single-level houses and in apartments.

What do you Asian guys say? Would you accept a bathroom in the middle of the house?

[briansd1]

I was told that the toilet should never be in the middle of the house.

That acts as a money pit for wealth, health, prosperity.

I can see how a toilet in the middle of house could be seen as a dirty dark well what will suck in the good energy.

That’s hard to avoid in single-level houses and in apartments.

What do you Asian guys say? Would you accept a bathroom in the middle of the house?

[briansd1]

I was told that the toilet should never be in the middle of the house.

That acts as a money pit for wealth, health, prosperity.

I can see how a toilet in the middle of house could be seen as a dirty dark well what will suck in the good energy.

That’s hard to avoid in single-level houses and in apartments.

What do you Asian guys say? Would you accept a bathroom in the middle of the house?

[briansd1]

I was told that the toilet should never be in the middle of the house.

That acts as a money pit for wealth, health, prosperity.

I can see how a toilet in the middle of house could be seen as a dirty dark well what will suck in the good energy.

That’s hard to avoid in single-level houses and in apartments.

What do you Asian guys say? Would you accept a bathroom in the middle of the house?

[svelte]

[quote=briansd1]

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?[/quote]

I’d say Great Recession.

I lived 15 yrs in that house and Life Was Good. Still is.

[svelte]

[quote=briansd1]

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?[/quote]

I’d say Great Recession.

I lived 15 yrs in that house and Life Was Good. Still is.

[svelte]

[quote=briansd1]

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?[/quote]

I’d say Great Recession.

I lived 15 yrs in that house and Life Was Good. Still is.

[svelte]

[quote=briansd1]

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?[/quote]

I’d say Great Recession.

I lived 15 yrs in that house and Life Was Good. Still is.

[briansd1]

[quote=svelte]We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

[/quote]

My cousin and her husband live in a house with the stairs going straight out the front door.

The husband has always been a pretty arrogant guy even with the relatives. The company relocated him and that’s when he bought that house. Soon after, he got laid-off and hasn’t found a job since.

He started 2 businesses that didn’t do well. His wife went back to work.

He’s a huge conservative; and all the kids turned out liberal so they don’t even talk to him anymore. The kids moved on to college and he and his wife live alone in that big house.

He now has cholesterol and blood pressure problems.

He lives in Ohio (that could explain the unemployment) and good thing the house is paid off, but still…

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?

[briansd1]

[quote=svelte]We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

[/quote]

My cousin and her husband live in a house with the stairs going straight out the front door.

The husband has always been a pretty arrogant guy even with the relatives. The company relocated him and that’s when he bought that house. Soon after, he got laid-off and hasn’t found a job since.

He started 2 businesses that didn’t do well. His wife went back to work.

He’s a huge conservative; and all the kids turned out liberal so they don’t even talk to him anymore. The kids moved on to college and he and his wife live alone in that big house.

He now has cholesterol and blood pressure problems.

He lives in Ohio (that could explain the unemployment) and good thing the house is paid off, but still…

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?

[briansd1]

[quote=svelte]We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

[/quote]

My cousin and her husband live in a house with the stairs going straight out the front door.

The husband has always been a pretty arrogant guy even with the relatives. The company relocated him and that’s when he bought that house. Soon after, he got laid-off and hasn’t found a job since.

He started 2 businesses that didn’t do well. His wife went back to work.

He’s a huge conservative; and all the kids turned out liberal so they don’t even talk to him anymore. The kids moved on to college and he and his wife live alone in that big house.

He now has cholesterol and blood pressure problems.

He lives in Ohio (that could explain the unemployment) and good thing the house is paid off, but still…

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?

[briansd1]

[quote=svelte]We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

[/quote]

My cousin and her husband live in a house with the stairs going straight out the front door.

The husband has always been a pretty arrogant guy even with the relatives. The company relocated him and that’s when he bought that house. Soon after, he got laid-off and hasn’t found a job since.

He started 2 businesses that didn’t do well. His wife went back to work.

He’s a huge conservative; and all the kids turned out liberal so they don’t even talk to him anymore. The kids moved on to college and he and his wife live alone in that big house.

He now has cholesterol and blood pressure problems.

He lives in Ohio (that could explain the unemployment) and good thing the house is paid off, but still…

Coincidence? Or Feng Shui?

[svelte]

We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

There are some Asian sayings (Confucious?) that do ring true with us. Like “He who goes through airport turnstile sideways is going to Bangkok.”

So, so true.

[svelte]

We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

There are some Asian sayings (Confucious?) that do ring true with us. Like “He who goes through airport turnstile sideways is going to Bangkok.”

So, so true.

[svelte]

We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

There are some Asian sayings (Confucious?) that do ring true with us. Like “He who goes through airport turnstile sideways is going to Bangkok.”

So, so true.

[svelte]

We pay zero attention to Feng Shui. None.

In fact, a prior house of 15 years the stairs led right out the front door – a big no-no in Feng Shui. House sold easily, though not to an Asian.

There are some Asian sayings (Confucious?) that do ring true with us. Like “He who goes through airport turnstile sideways is going to Bangkok.”

So, so true.

[Anonymous]

can some one tell what happens when your front door faces your back yard? if it’s good luck or bad and if bad what the reason and what can i do to fix it? I’m in a rental. and thank so much for answering.

[an]

[quote=mcfmauigirl]can some one tell what happens when your front door faces your back yard? if it’s good luck or bad and if bad what the reason and what can i do to fix it? I’m in a rental. and thank so much for answering.[/quote]
It supposed to mean money goes in and goes straight out. One way to fix it is either to move one of the door or add a wall in between. But if you’re talking about your rental with this “problem”, then there’s not much you can do, but move.

[svelte]

[quote=AN][quote=mcfmauigirl]can some one tell what happens when your front door faces your back yard? if it’s good luck or bad and if bad what the reason and what can i do to fix it? I’m in a rental. and thank so much for answering.[/quote]
It supposed to mean money goes in and goes straight out. One way to fix it is either to move one of the door or add a wall in between. But if you’re talking about your rental with this “problem”, then there’s not much you can do, but move.[/quote]

Since it’s a rental and she can’t move the door, the next best thing is to put a 6 ft tall by 4 ft wide safe where the back door is, facing the stairs.

That way, the money that tries to escape will be caught in the safe as savings.

[Anonymous]

THAT’S AN AWFUL BIG SAFE TO LUG AROUND, SO, i’LL HAVE TO PUT UP A SHELF UNIT OR A 3-PANEL FOLDING WALL THING. THANKS FOR ALL YOU HELP.
NOW, I KNOW!
MCF

[Anonymous]

THANK YOU

[Anonymous]

I find it amusing that many of the people who consider religion “superstitious nonsense” frequently buy into the whole Feng Shui bull-puckey, as if, somehow, Chinese superstitions are superior to Italian or Jewish superstitions.

Good design principles and construction are what make homes livable, not adherence to “Feng Shui principles,” many of which are nothing more than the common sense principles taught in any good design course.
The rest are superstitious jive, (such as “I would avoid buying a house with the sink and the stove directly facing each other, this can lead to arguments and conflict within the family”) as ridiculous as any religious bull that’s come along.

Jive.

[spdrun]

Brutus — agreed 100%. Thought I’d still rather have the sink on the same side of the kitchen as the stove. Makes working in the kitchen easier IMHO.

[Jazzman]

The biggest of all Feng Shui principles is a home that is good value for money. That makes most homes Feng Shui unfriendly. In fact, the bubble was caused by a total disregard for its principles. So to free the positive spirit of your home, and drive out all negative ‘chi’ you must lower the expectations of its value (25-50% will do), and take the lowest offers. This will create great harmony, especially with your neighbors and realtor.

The force be with you!

[Diego Mamani]

[quote=Jazzman]The biggest of all Feng Shui principles is a home that is good value for money. That makes most homes Feng Shui unfriendly. In fact, the bubble was caused by a total disregard for its principles. So to free the positive spirit of your home, and drive out all negative ‘chi’ you must lower the expectations of its value (25-50% will do), and take the lowest offers. This will create great harmony, especially with your neighbors and realtor.

The force be with you![/quote]
LOL! Good one, I love it!

[Diego Mamani]

[quote=jimmyle]Also, I would avoid buying a house with the sink and the stove directly facing each other, this can lead to arguments and conflict within the family.[/quote]
Why? How does the sink and stove relative positions affect your arguments and conflicts?

[carlsbadworker]

I believe conflicts happen within the family with the sink and stove directly facing each other, but conflicts also happen within the family without the sink and stove directly facing each other. I have never seen a Fengshui book that starts with statistical sampling, which I really believe.

That said, I do pay attention to Fengshui when buying house only because it affects the market value.

[Anonymous]

Good design principles suggest that the sink, stove, and refrigerator be positioned so they form a triangle if you draw a line from each appliance to the others. This makes it easy to work in that kitchen because you can turn from one to the next with ease.
No Feng Shui, just common sense.

[Coronita]

[quote=Brutus]Good design principles suggest that the sink, stove, and refrigerator be positioned so they form a triangle if you draw a line from each appliance to the others. This makes it easy to work in that kitchen because you can turn from one to the next with ease.
No Feng Shui, just common sense.[/quote]

…and drop everything on the floor while you transition from frig, to sink to stove and back to sink and back to frig…..For me, I hate kitchens with a sink detached from a counter that isn’t connected to a stove..Especially when working with stuff that you have to wash in the sink, then cut on a cutting board, and then put into wok/pan/pot etc thereafter…

…If they three aren’t connected together.. Then you end up not only have to cleanup the counter but the counter + floors. And if you have wood floors…That really sucks… Plus when you’re preparing a lot of food, it’s a PITA after you wash to not be able to just slide the crap you washed onto a cutting board that next to the sink and then not be able to slide the entire damn cutting board next to the stove…

For that matter ,I hate kitchens with a sink or oven in the center island, no matter how close it might be to the stove or fridge.

[svelte]

[quote=flu][quote=Brutus]Good design principles suggest that the sink, stove, and refrigerator be positioned so they form a triangle if you draw a line from each appliance to the others. This makes it easy to work in that kitchen because you can turn from one to the next with ease.
No Feng Shui, just common sense.[/quote]

…and drop everything on the floor while you transition from frig, to sink to stove and back to sink and back to frig…..For me, I hate kitchens with a sink detached from a counter that isn’t connected to a stove..Especially when working with stuff that you have to wash in the sink, then cut on a cutting board, and then put into wok/pan/pot etc thereafter…[/quote]

Just how much shit do you drop when you’re cooking? Your style is a whole lot different than ours…

[Anonymous]

Sounds like you hate most kitchens…

[spdrun]

Unless it’s a tiny-ass NYC apartment kitchen, you’ll be doing some walking even if the items are arranged in a triangle. Besides, why not make the sink and stove on the same “side” of the triangle?

[briansd1]

I like fend shui but most people’s houses are cluttered. Asian people’s houses are no different. It’s rare that I feel zen when I enter a house.

Best to have an airy uncluttered house. That in itself is feng shui.

[Coronita]

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[sdduuuude]

Is that that noodle dish ? There’s this place in San Francisco that serves the best Feng Shui !

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