Emergency Services

[bubba99]

While discussing who is more valuable – police or fire? We had the thought that emergency services need not be split between law enforcement and fire protection. The functions and requirements are so similiar they should be the same organization.

We could have emergency services people who do both. Add another few weeks of training to the current process and expect emergency service workers to know search and seizure along with search and rescue, and fire fighting.

Certainly the physical requirements are about the same, and most officers and firemen are intellectually capable of learning both functions.

Having officers trained in fire fighting gets a fireman to the fire much quicker as they are already in the field. And although some emergency personel would need be close to fire trucks for rapid dispatch, for the most part, the combined operation would eliminate a bunch of postitions.

What do you think?

[SK in CV]

After that, we can combine plumbers with doctors. After all, the body is pretty much just one big plumbing system. Call in an electrician when brain stuff is involved.

Sorry about that.

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.

[SK in CV]

After that, we can combine plumbers with doctors. After all, the body is pretty much just one big plumbing system. Call in an electrician when brain stuff is involved.

Sorry about that.

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.

[SK in CV]

After that, we can combine plumbers with doctors. After all, the body is pretty much just one big plumbing system. Call in an electrician when brain stuff is involved.

Sorry about that.

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.

[SK in CV]

After that, we can combine plumbers with doctors. After all, the body is pretty much just one big plumbing system. Call in an electrician when brain stuff is involved.

Sorry about that.

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.

[SK in CV]

After that, we can combine plumbers with doctors. After all, the body is pretty much just one big plumbing system. Call in an electrician when brain stuff is involved.

Sorry about that.

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=SK in CV]

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.[/quote]

I agree. Cops do everything from parking tickets and crowd control to investigating murders and robbery rings. They work on gang control. Heck – look at how many different types of cops there are: traffic, homocide, vice, etc…

Firefighters are about extinguishing the fire with the least loss of life and and property. A completely different skill set. A firefighter has to know the combustibility of various materials, the structural integrity of a burning building in case they have to go rescue someone on a higher floor, etc… That’s a lot different than investigating a murder or writing a traffic ticket.

[UCGal]

[quote=SK in CV]

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.[/quote]

I agree. Cops do everything from parking tickets and crowd control to investigating murders and robbery rings. They work on gang control. Heck – look at how many different types of cops there are: traffic, homocide, vice, etc…

Firefighters are about extinguishing the fire with the least loss of life and and property. A completely different skill set. A firefighter has to know the combustibility of various materials, the structural integrity of a burning building in case they have to go rescue someone on a higher floor, etc… That’s a lot different than investigating a murder or writing a traffic ticket.

[UCGal]

[quote=SK in CV]

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.[/quote]

I agree. Cops do everything from parking tickets and crowd control to investigating murders and robbery rings. They work on gang control. Heck – look at how many different types of cops there are: traffic, homocide, vice, etc…

Firefighters are about extinguishing the fire with the least loss of life and and property. A completely different skill set. A firefighter has to know the combustibility of various materials, the structural integrity of a burning building in case they have to go rescue someone on a higher floor, etc… That’s a lot different than investigating a murder or writing a traffic ticket.

[UCGal]

[quote=SK in CV]

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.[/quote]

I agree. Cops do everything from parking tickets and crowd control to investigating murders and robbery rings. They work on gang control. Heck – look at how many different types of cops there are: traffic, homocide, vice, etc…

Firefighters are about extinguishing the fire with the least loss of life and and property. A completely different skill set. A firefighter has to know the combustibility of various materials, the structural integrity of a burning building in case they have to go rescue someone on a higher floor, etc… That’s a lot different than investigating a murder or writing a traffic ticket.

[UCGal]

[quote=SK in CV]

Bad idea. They both wear uniforms. They don’t do the same jobs.[/quote]

I agree. Cops do everything from parking tickets and crowd control to investigating murders and robbery rings. They work on gang control. Heck – look at how many different types of cops there are: traffic, homocide, vice, etc…

Firefighters are about extinguishing the fire with the least loss of life and and property. A completely different skill set. A firefighter has to know the combustibility of various materials, the structural integrity of a burning building in case they have to go rescue someone on a higher floor, etc… That’s a lot different than investigating a murder or writing a traffic ticket.

[bubba99]

I am told that 70% of all fire fighters are volunteer positions. That volunteers can be trained to do rescues from burning buildings.

Perhaps the detective should be just a detective, and the fire captain just a fire captain. But maybe the ticket writer could learn to be a firefighter too. For the bulk of the traffic cops, ticket writers, beat cops, train them to hold a hose and fight fires. Many officers are already trained in emergency medicine. And although I understand the law enforcement job well, I cant get over thinking that firemen spend most of their time sleeping and joking with their co-workers and only fight fires once in a blue moon. Plus the era of a fat out of shape donut eating cop would be over.

A few years ago Homeland Security combined the Customs Inspector job with the Immigration Officer Position and called it a CBPO. The officer must know customs law, entry processing, immigration law and processing, terrorist interdiction, WMD detection and security. Previously four different positions, now just one job title.

[bubba99]

I am told that 70% of all fire fighters are volunteer positions. That volunteers can be trained to do rescues from burning buildings.

Perhaps the detective should be just a detective, and the fire captain just a fire captain. But maybe the ticket writer could learn to be a firefighter too. For the bulk of the traffic cops, ticket writers, beat cops, train them to hold a hose and fight fires. Many officers are already trained in emergency medicine. And although I understand the law enforcement job well, I cant get over thinking that firemen spend most of their time sleeping and joking with their co-workers and only fight fires once in a blue moon. Plus the era of a fat out of shape donut eating cop would be over.

A few years ago Homeland Security combined the Customs Inspector job with the Immigration Officer Position and called it a CBPO. The officer must know customs law, entry processing, immigration law and processing, terrorist interdiction, WMD detection and security. Previously four different positions, now just one job title.

[bubba99]

I am told that 70% of all fire fighters are volunteer positions. That volunteers can be trained to do rescues from burning buildings.

Perhaps the detective should be just a detective, and the fire captain just a fire captain. But maybe the ticket writer could learn to be a firefighter too. For the bulk of the traffic cops, ticket writers, beat cops, train them to hold a hose and fight fires. Many officers are already trained in emergency medicine. And although I understand the law enforcement job well, I cant get over thinking that firemen spend most of their time sleeping and joking with their co-workers and only fight fires once in a blue moon. Plus the era of a fat out of shape donut eating cop would be over.

A few years ago Homeland Security combined the Customs Inspector job with the Immigration Officer Position and called it a CBPO. The officer must know customs law, entry processing, immigration law and processing, terrorist interdiction, WMD detection and security. Previously four different positions, now just one job title.

[bubba99]

I am told that 70% of all fire fighters are volunteer positions. That volunteers can be trained to do rescues from burning buildings.

Perhaps the detective should be just a detective, and the fire captain just a fire captain. But maybe the ticket writer could learn to be a firefighter too. For the bulk of the traffic cops, ticket writers, beat cops, train them to hold a hose and fight fires. Many officers are already trained in emergency medicine. And although I understand the law enforcement job well, I cant get over thinking that firemen spend most of their time sleeping and joking with their co-workers and only fight fires once in a blue moon. Plus the era of a fat out of shape donut eating cop would be over.

A few years ago Homeland Security combined the Customs Inspector job with the Immigration Officer Position and called it a CBPO. The officer must know customs law, entry processing, immigration law and processing, terrorist interdiction, WMD detection and security. Previously four different positions, now just one job title.

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