Electoral College: the disenfranchisement of Californians

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]This is for you , BG. Enjoy!
We don’t need the flyover states. All we need are the blue states and the rising new economy cities. We should treat the reds like apartheid South Africa.

George Will wrote:

Arizona whites have gone from 74 percent to 54 percent of the population in 25 years; minorities will be a majority there by 2022. Texas minorities became a majority in 2004; whites are now 43 percent of the population. Nevada is 52 percent white and projected to be majority-minority in 2020. Georgia is 54 percent white, heading for majority-minority in 2026. Because of inexorably rising minorities, Clinton, an epically untalented candidate, did better than Obama did in 2012 in Georgia, Texas, Arizona and where 1 in 8 Americans lives — California.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/a-ruinous-triumph-for-the-gop/2016/11/09/18b9e804-a6a3-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html

[/quote]Well, I’m not sure how many people actually read the (extremely biased) WAPO rag OR George Will, one of its top lackey “editorialists”, but why does your brand of “identity politics” even matter in attempting to decide why a particular state is currently red or blue? Why do you automatically assume that the more so-called “minorities” a state has, the bluer it will become? That actually could not be further from the truth.

The only exception is the presence of undocumented immigrant voters in a particular state, how plentiful they are and whether they actually make it to the polls to vote on election day (or make it to the address where they had their absentee ballot sent to pick up that ballot, fill it out and mail it back). Those (illegal) voters in a Trump versus Clinton contest (where one candidate has threatened to deport them) would most definitely vote for Clinton …. for obvious reasons.

[FlyerInHi]

George Will is the classic small government conservative republican

Stop saying undocumented immigrants vote. They don’t.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Stop saying undocumented immigrants vote. They don’t.[/quote]You are beyond delusional if you actually believe this.

Not only that, the “undocumented immigrant vote” doesn’t even account for all those “border crossers” (living in MX) who successfully voted in San Diego and Imperial County, CA on election day (or registered to vote early and used a friend/relative’s house situated in said counties to have their mail-in ballots sent to and later picked them up and mailed them in to the County Registrar).

This same scenario could have easily also played out in AZ, NM and TX but I am not familiar with the nuances of their voter registration systems.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]George Will is the classic small government conservative republican …[/quote]WAPO has been one of the most biased rags in existence this past election cycle . . . biased towards the Dems, that is.

It’s not even worth receiving for “free” to line one’s birdcage with.

[ocrenter]

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/us-politics/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-boxer-files-longshot-bill-to-scrap-the-1479234745-htmlstory.html

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ocrenter]
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/us-politics/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-boxer-files-longshot-bill-to-scrap-the-1479234745-htmlstory.html
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Oh, Good L@rd! She’s another CA ultra-lib living in her (self-imposed) “bubble of the privileged.” She needs to crawl back to her quiet, bucolic Marin County enclave and enjoy her “retirement,” now that she’s finally out of the picture. She’s wasting her time on proposing this go-nowhere “legislation.” Doesn’t she have a bicycle, a library card and grandchildren to visit? I hear there is a fairly new (albeit hidden from the sunlight :=0) bike trail going all the way down to Muir Beach. Why isn’t she down there picking up whole seashells and live crabs in her “old age?”

[bearishgurl]

I’m still waiting for that ancient hag, Nancy Pelosi, to finally throw in the towel, rouse up her collection of trenchcoats and decide to spend the rest of her waning nights (and days … as time permits) at Monaghan’s, where she develop a “consensus” among the other regular (opinionated) patrons and can walk to and from without being arrested for DUI :=0

[spdrun]

Can she take Sen. Chuckles Scummer, that authoritarian in a blue jacket, with her? Please?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=spdrun]Can she take Sen. Chuckles Scummer, that authoritarian in a blue jacket, with her? Please?[/quote]I sympathize with your request, spd. It appears that both of these clowns’ tenures have exceeded normal “term limits” (had there actually been any in place, lol) 3-4x over. What were the voters in CA and NY thinking?? Maybe the Trump administration will be able to fix that problem.

[ctr70]

I’m very thankful the folks that wrote the U.S. constitution had the brilliant foresight to create the electoral college & senate. So now a few high population cities/states on the coasts can’t control policy for this entire vast nation. Those guys were VERY smart.

I for one certainly do not want policy for the entire U.S to be controlled by the socialists and big Gov’t unions in CA and NY.

[spdrun]

Socialism is unfairly maligned. We’re all socialists, the only difference is what we want to spend the money on. Some people want to spend it on healthcare, education and infrastructure. Others want to spend it on mass deportations, mass incarceration, and homicide campaigns abroad. Pick your poison.

And what about high-population conservative states like TX or low-population liberal states like RI? Frankly, the Founders had no way of knowing the makeup of the US in 200+ years.

The historical reason was different: Blacks could vote in the North. The EC was created to weaken the free Black vote for President. The idea that the Founders planned for the 2016 election is the biggest load of horseshit I’ve heard in a long time.

Trump won due to a historical accident, plain and simple.

[Anonymous]

Intro to the Constitution should be changed from “We the People” to “We the acerage”

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]

The historical reason was different: Blacks could vote in the North. The EC was created to weaken the free Black vote for President. The idea that the Founders planned for the 2016 election is the biggest load of horseshit I’ve heard in a long time.

Trump won due to a historical accident, plain and simple.[/quote]

The founding fathers were also educated elites. I like Hamilton.

[spdrun]

Compromise … “We the acreage (except for Delaware and Rhode Island)”.

[ctr70]

In addition to the electoral college and giving each state two senate seats (regardless of that states population), another related thing I’m in huge favor of is giving states more power to shape their own rules and policy vs. centralizing power in DC.

I love the freedom you have in this country to move to another state if you don’t like the politics, taxes, etc… in one state. I moved from Kalifornistan to WA State partially to escape the oppressive state income in CA (WA has NO state income tax). I LOVE that I have the freedom to do that. This allows people to “vote with their feet”. It would suck bad if Wash D.C. controlled individual states more then they do.

I don’t think you have this freedom in a lot of other countries, to move to other areas to lower you tax burden or get a political environment more to your liking. Socialists and a lot of Dem’s would love to take this freedom away and centralize power in DC.

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