Elections Tuesday

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=flu]thank god.[/quote]

Every day, baby, every day.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Cardiff: Its bigotry, pure and simple. The church I grew up in (Los Altos, CA) numbered amongst its members one of the founders of Intel, numerous Stanford faculty, [/quote]

It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.

There’s plenty of religious evangelizing and proselytizing. An opposite reaction is self-defense in my opinion. Why can’t the religious people accept a different point of view? They are the bigots.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Cardiff: Its bigotry, pure and simple. The church I grew up in (Los Altos, CA) numbered amongst its members one of the founders of Intel, numerous Stanford faculty, [/quote]

It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.

There’s plenty of religious evangelizing and proselytizing. An opposite reaction is self-defense in my opinion. Why can’t the religious people accept a different point of view? They are the bigots.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Cardiff: Its bigotry, pure and simple. The church I grew up in (Los Altos, CA) numbered amongst its members one of the founders of Intel, numerous Stanford faculty, [/quote]

It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.

There’s plenty of religious evangelizing and proselytizing. An opposite reaction is self-defense in my opinion. Why can’t the religious people accept a different point of view? They are the bigots.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Cardiff: Its bigotry, pure and simple. The church I grew up in (Los Altos, CA) numbered amongst its members one of the founders of Intel, numerous Stanford faculty, [/quote]

It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.

There’s plenty of religious evangelizing and proselytizing. An opposite reaction is self-defense in my opinion. Why can’t the religious people accept a different point of view? They are the bigots.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Cardiff: Its bigotry, pure and simple. The church I grew up in (Los Altos, CA) numbered amongst its members one of the founders of Intel, numerous Stanford faculty, [/quote]

It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.

There’s plenty of religious evangelizing and proselytizing. An opposite reaction is self-defense in my opinion. Why can’t the religious people accept a different point of view? They are the bigots.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]

Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.

Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.

My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy? ) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]

Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.

Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.

My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy? ) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]

Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.

Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.

My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy? ) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]

Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.

Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.

My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy? ) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.

[CardiffBaseball]

[quote=briansd1]
It not bigotry; it’s quid pro quo. It’s also the truth.

The truth is that despite their early religious schooling, most scientists and thinkers end up becoming empiricists, humanists, realists, agnostics and atheists.

Real thinkers have faith in humans and the universe, not Jesus.
[/quote]

Whoa, you are correct there can be no common ground with a statement like that.

Regardless the christian school my kids attend has a very good track record of sending kids to Ivy/UCLA/Stanford etc. Many of the parents are some of the most wealthy, successful people in town. Powerful executives, attorneys, entrepreneurs, retired athletes, etc. I actually feel inadequate attending a function at a parent’s house, compared the meager paycheck-to-paycheck existence I’ve seemingly put together.

My point is “they” are out there in far greater numbers than you can possibly fathom from what I can tell. And many of “them” are humble servants who understand “grace”, and won’t run around beating your head with a bible. Grace in fact does seem to be a lost term with certain types, and I am wholly (holy? ) with you on getting ticked at those people. I for different reasons than you, but nonetheless, I understand your frustration with them. I just think you are painting too broad of a brush here. There are probably 10 christians of the type I describe for every one you seem to be complaining about.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: “Never teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig”.

You are declaiming to a wall, bubba. No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education. You are dealing with a self indulgent, propagandized, pseudo-intellectual Leftist, and one who feels the rest of us are fools. Don’t waste your time. I stopped responding to his various little epistles when the true nature of his personality emerged. Besides, when it comes to God, I’ll defer to a far greater intellect than my own: Albert Einstein.

“Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.” Albert Einstein

“We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.” Albert Einstein

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: “Never teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig”.

You are declaiming to a wall, bubba. No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education. You are dealing with a self indulgent, propagandized, pseudo-intellectual Leftist, and one who feels the rest of us are fools. Don’t waste your time. I stopped responding to his various little epistles when the true nature of his personality emerged. Besides, when it comes to God, I’ll defer to a far greater intellect than my own: Albert Einstein.

“Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.” Albert Einstein

“We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.” Albert Einstein

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: “Never teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig”.

You are declaiming to a wall, bubba. No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education. You are dealing with a self indulgent, propagandized, pseudo-intellectual Leftist, and one who feels the rest of us are fools. Don’t waste your time. I stopped responding to his various little epistles when the true nature of his personality emerged. Besides, when it comes to God, I’ll defer to a far greater intellect than my own: Albert Einstein.

“Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.” Albert Einstein

“We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.” Albert Einstein

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Cardiff: “Never teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig”.

You are declaiming to a wall, bubba. No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education. You are dealing with a self indulgent, propagandized, pseudo-intellectual Leftist, and one who feels the rest of us are fools. Don’t waste your time. I stopped responding to his various little epistles when the true nature of his personality emerged. Besides, when it comes to God, I’ll defer to a far greater intellect than my own: Albert Einstein.

“Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.” Albert Einstein

“We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality.” Albert Einstein

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