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November 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM #479997November 8, 2009 at 7:53 PM #479171briansd1Guest
Back to the elections.
As, SK in CV said, if you look at the elections from a national perspective, the Democrats gain 2 seats. Two more votes for Obama in Congress.Democrats saw the only two national seats up for grabs — the New York seat and a second House seat in the Bay Area of California
Interesting NY Times article:
November 8, 2009 at 7:53 PM #479340briansd1GuestBack to the elections.
As, SK in CV said, if you look at the elections from a national perspective, the Democrats gain 2 seats. Two more votes for Obama in Congress.Democrats saw the only two national seats up for grabs — the New York seat and a second House seat in the Bay Area of California
Interesting NY Times article:
November 8, 2009 at 7:53 PM #479707briansd1GuestBack to the elections.
As, SK in CV said, if you look at the elections from a national perspective, the Democrats gain 2 seats. Two more votes for Obama in Congress.Democrats saw the only two national seats up for grabs — the New York seat and a second House seat in the Bay Area of California
Interesting NY Times article:
November 8, 2009 at 7:53 PM #479786briansd1GuestBack to the elections.
As, SK in CV said, if you look at the elections from a national perspective, the Democrats gain 2 seats. Two more votes for Obama in Congress.Democrats saw the only two national seats up for grabs — the New York seat and a second House seat in the Bay Area of California
Interesting NY Times article:
November 8, 2009 at 7:53 PM #480007briansd1GuestBack to the elections.
As, SK in CV said, if you look at the elections from a national perspective, the Democrats gain 2 seats. Two more votes for Obama in Congress.Democrats saw the only two national seats up for grabs — the New York seat and a second House seat in the Bay Area of California
Interesting NY Times article:
November 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM #479185Allan from FallbrookParticipantMicro: My argument (at the end) had far less to do with spirituality and far more to do with ignorance, bigotry and close-mindedness.
Brian represents the worst in the pseudo-intellectualism you find in most contemporary Leftists: Shoddy reasoning, lack of critical analysis, intellectual dishonesty and a marked unwillingness to accept any viewpoints that don’t correspond to his own, especially as it relates to Christianity (a religion, apparently, peopled by small-minded bigots much like Brian himself).
As a Catholic, especially one educated by those renegade Jesuits, I was always very conscious of both the tendentious and enlightened aspects of the Mother Church. I was also very aware of the dangers of putting the blinkers on and not asking the “necessary” questions.
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).
November 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM #479355Allan from FallbrookParticipantMicro: My argument (at the end) had far less to do with spirituality and far more to do with ignorance, bigotry and close-mindedness.
Brian represents the worst in the pseudo-intellectualism you find in most contemporary Leftists: Shoddy reasoning, lack of critical analysis, intellectual dishonesty and a marked unwillingness to accept any viewpoints that don’t correspond to his own, especially as it relates to Christianity (a religion, apparently, peopled by small-minded bigots much like Brian himself).
As a Catholic, especially one educated by those renegade Jesuits, I was always very conscious of both the tendentious and enlightened aspects of the Mother Church. I was also very aware of the dangers of putting the blinkers on and not asking the “necessary” questions.
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).
November 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM #479720Allan from FallbrookParticipantMicro: My argument (at the end) had far less to do with spirituality and far more to do with ignorance, bigotry and close-mindedness.
Brian represents the worst in the pseudo-intellectualism you find in most contemporary Leftists: Shoddy reasoning, lack of critical analysis, intellectual dishonesty and a marked unwillingness to accept any viewpoints that don’t correspond to his own, especially as it relates to Christianity (a religion, apparently, peopled by small-minded bigots much like Brian himself).
As a Catholic, especially one educated by those renegade Jesuits, I was always very conscious of both the tendentious and enlightened aspects of the Mother Church. I was also very aware of the dangers of putting the blinkers on and not asking the “necessary” questions.
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).
November 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM #479800Allan from FallbrookParticipantMicro: My argument (at the end) had far less to do with spirituality and far more to do with ignorance, bigotry and close-mindedness.
Brian represents the worst in the pseudo-intellectualism you find in most contemporary Leftists: Shoddy reasoning, lack of critical analysis, intellectual dishonesty and a marked unwillingness to accept any viewpoints that don’t correspond to his own, especially as it relates to Christianity (a religion, apparently, peopled by small-minded bigots much like Brian himself).
As a Catholic, especially one educated by those renegade Jesuits, I was always very conscious of both the tendentious and enlightened aspects of the Mother Church. I was also very aware of the dangers of putting the blinkers on and not asking the “necessary” questions.
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).
November 8, 2009 at 8:22 PM #480022Allan from FallbrookParticipantMicro: My argument (at the end) had far less to do with spirituality and far more to do with ignorance, bigotry and close-mindedness.
Brian represents the worst in the pseudo-intellectualism you find in most contemporary Leftists: Shoddy reasoning, lack of critical analysis, intellectual dishonesty and a marked unwillingness to accept any viewpoints that don’t correspond to his own, especially as it relates to Christianity (a religion, apparently, peopled by small-minded bigots much like Brian himself).
As a Catholic, especially one educated by those renegade Jesuits, I was always very conscious of both the tendentious and enlightened aspects of the Mother Church. I was also very aware of the dangers of putting the blinkers on and not asking the “necessary” questions.
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).
November 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM #479436briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).[/quote]
Yes I think that TOGETHER faith and science are at odds.
But faith and science can certainly co-exist very well in society. That’s why I think that religion is good to give hope to those who lack hope.
On the power of hope, Obama gives hope to millions around the world. He may not deliver, but the enormous amount of hope and goodwill he’s generated is, without a doubt, bringing more peace to this world.
Many, on the right, have argued that hoping that Obama will bring about more peace and justice is stupid because he cannot deliver. I would argue that hope in Obama is more realistic than hope in God.
Hope is better than no hope. Hope is wonderful. Think of a young just-married couple hoping to have a wonderful life together.
But hope and faith are not science.
November 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM #479606briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).[/quote]
Yes I think that TOGETHER faith and science are at odds.
But faith and science can certainly co-exist very well in society. That’s why I think that religion is good to give hope to those who lack hope.
On the power of hope, Obama gives hope to millions around the world. He may not deliver, but the enormous amount of hope and goodwill he’s generated is, without a doubt, bringing more peace to this world.
Many, on the right, have argued that hoping that Obama will bring about more peace and justice is stupid because he cannot deliver. I would argue that hope in Obama is more realistic than hope in God.
Hope is better than no hope. Hope is wonderful. Think of a young just-married couple hoping to have a wonderful life together.
But hope and faith are not science.
November 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM #479971briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).[/quote]
Yes I think that TOGETHER faith and science are at odds.
But faith and science can certainly co-exist very well in society. That’s why I think that religion is good to give hope to those who lack hope.
On the power of hope, Obama gives hope to millions around the world. He may not deliver, but the enormous amount of hope and goodwill he’s generated is, without a doubt, bringing more peace to this world.
Many, on the right, have argued that hoping that Obama will bring about more peace and justice is stupid because he cannot deliver. I would argue that hope in Obama is more realistic than hope in God.
Hope is better than no hope. Hope is wonderful. Think of a young just-married couple hoping to have a wonderful life together.
But hope and faith are not science.
November 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM #480051briansd1Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
To argue, stupidly, as Brian does, that Faith and Science MUST be at odds, is to blindly miss the two most important and uplifting aspects of being human: The strength of Reason and the power of Hope (which is highly ironic for an Obama supporter).[/quote]
Yes I think that TOGETHER faith and science are at odds.
But faith and science can certainly co-exist very well in society. That’s why I think that religion is good to give hope to those who lack hope.
On the power of hope, Obama gives hope to millions around the world. He may not deliver, but the enormous amount of hope and goodwill he’s generated is, without a doubt, bringing more peace to this world.
Many, on the right, have argued that hoping that Obama will bring about more peace and justice is stupid because he cannot deliver. I would argue that hope in Obama is more realistic than hope in God.
Hope is better than no hope. Hope is wonderful. Think of a young just-married couple hoping to have a wonderful life together.
But hope and faith are not science.
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