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November 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM #479488November 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM #478657AnonymousGuest
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
November 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM #478826AnonymousGuest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
November 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM #479192AnonymousGuest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
November 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM #479273AnonymousGuest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
November 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM #479493AnonymousGuest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
November 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM #478671Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=CricketOnTheHearth]If anything, the more we know about how such things work, the more we can fall in awe of them, and to me that is spirituality.[/quote]
I agree with your take on the “awe” of the world, and I suppose by your definition that would make me spiritual. Unfortunately “spiritual” has a root word that is difficult for me to reconcile. I find beauty in the fact that something like an ant can come to exist without the hand of a magic “spirit” making it be.[/quote]
Afx: I think you’re thinking too small here, and I’m not being snarky when I say that. The idea of an animating “spirit” is too small. Whatever term you use: God, or the Great Spirit or The Force, there is something out there and I don’t believe its as banal as saying things “just happened”.
But, hell, I could be wrong and if science moves to a point where many of my beliefs are shown to be grossly incorrect, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong.
As to Faith: To me, Faith is more than a comfortable stopgap when I don’t have a better explanation. Faith is the belief in something More that I cannot comprehend and Reason provides the process whereby I can educate myself and move closer to find answers to the great questions. I think there is a meaning to life and I think we are here for some reason other than just existing and passing on.
November 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM #478841Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=CricketOnTheHearth]If anything, the more we know about how such things work, the more we can fall in awe of them, and to me that is spirituality.[/quote]
I agree with your take on the “awe” of the world, and I suppose by your definition that would make me spiritual. Unfortunately “spiritual” has a root word that is difficult for me to reconcile. I find beauty in the fact that something like an ant can come to exist without the hand of a magic “spirit” making it be.[/quote]
Afx: I think you’re thinking too small here, and I’m not being snarky when I say that. The idea of an animating “spirit” is too small. Whatever term you use: God, or the Great Spirit or The Force, there is something out there and I don’t believe its as banal as saying things “just happened”.
But, hell, I could be wrong and if science moves to a point where many of my beliefs are shown to be grossly incorrect, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong.
As to Faith: To me, Faith is more than a comfortable stopgap when I don’t have a better explanation. Faith is the belief in something More that I cannot comprehend and Reason provides the process whereby I can educate myself and move closer to find answers to the great questions. I think there is a meaning to life and I think we are here for some reason other than just existing and passing on.
November 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM #479207Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=CricketOnTheHearth]If anything, the more we know about how such things work, the more we can fall in awe of them, and to me that is spirituality.[/quote]
I agree with your take on the “awe” of the world, and I suppose by your definition that would make me spiritual. Unfortunately “spiritual” has a root word that is difficult for me to reconcile. I find beauty in the fact that something like an ant can come to exist without the hand of a magic “spirit” making it be.[/quote]
Afx: I think you’re thinking too small here, and I’m not being snarky when I say that. The idea of an animating “spirit” is too small. Whatever term you use: God, or the Great Spirit or The Force, there is something out there and I don’t believe its as banal as saying things “just happened”.
But, hell, I could be wrong and if science moves to a point where many of my beliefs are shown to be grossly incorrect, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong.
As to Faith: To me, Faith is more than a comfortable stopgap when I don’t have a better explanation. Faith is the belief in something More that I cannot comprehend and Reason provides the process whereby I can educate myself and move closer to find answers to the great questions. I think there is a meaning to life and I think we are here for some reason other than just existing and passing on.
November 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM #479288Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=CricketOnTheHearth]If anything, the more we know about how such things work, the more we can fall in awe of them, and to me that is spirituality.[/quote]
I agree with your take on the “awe” of the world, and I suppose by your definition that would make me spiritual. Unfortunately “spiritual” has a root word that is difficult for me to reconcile. I find beauty in the fact that something like an ant can come to exist without the hand of a magic “spirit” making it be.[/quote]
Afx: I think you’re thinking too small here, and I’m not being snarky when I say that. The idea of an animating “spirit” is too small. Whatever term you use: God, or the Great Spirit or The Force, there is something out there and I don’t believe its as banal as saying things “just happened”.
But, hell, I could be wrong and if science moves to a point where many of my beliefs are shown to be grossly incorrect, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong.
As to Faith: To me, Faith is more than a comfortable stopgap when I don’t have a better explanation. Faith is the belief in something More that I cannot comprehend and Reason provides the process whereby I can educate myself and move closer to find answers to the great questions. I think there is a meaning to life and I think we are here for some reason other than just existing and passing on.
November 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM #479508Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=afx114][quote=CricketOnTheHearth]If anything, the more we know about how such things work, the more we can fall in awe of them, and to me that is spirituality.[/quote]
I agree with your take on the “awe” of the world, and I suppose by your definition that would make me spiritual. Unfortunately “spiritual” has a root word that is difficult for me to reconcile. I find beauty in the fact that something like an ant can come to exist without the hand of a magic “spirit” making it be.[/quote]
Afx: I think you’re thinking too small here, and I’m not being snarky when I say that. The idea of an animating “spirit” is too small. Whatever term you use: God, or the Great Spirit or The Force, there is something out there and I don’t believe its as banal as saying things “just happened”.
But, hell, I could be wrong and if science moves to a point where many of my beliefs are shown to be grossly incorrect, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong.
As to Faith: To me, Faith is more than a comfortable stopgap when I don’t have a better explanation. Faith is the belief in something More that I cannot comprehend and Reason provides the process whereby I can educate myself and move closer to find answers to the great questions. I think there is a meaning to life and I think we are here for some reason other than just existing and passing on.
November 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM #478676Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
http://creationmuseum.org/about/%5B/quote%5D
Pri: Yeahhhhh… On this one, I’m actually going to have to agree with Brian and say that certain people shouldn’t be allowed to propagate.
I had to sit through a discussion on this place with a Born Again Christian of the New Earth variety and I was ready to convert to Islam and issue a fatwa by the end of the conversation. But, as Cardiff correctly pointed out, these folks are outnumbered by sentient Christians by a good 10 – 1 margin. Hopefully.
November 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM #478846Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
http://creationmuseum.org/about/%5B/quote%5D
Pri: Yeahhhhh… On this one, I’m actually going to have to agree with Brian and say that certain people shouldn’t be allowed to propagate.
I had to sit through a discussion on this place with a Born Again Christian of the New Earth variety and I was ready to convert to Islam and issue a fatwa by the end of the conversation. But, as Cardiff correctly pointed out, these folks are outnumbered by sentient Christians by a good 10 – 1 margin. Hopefully.
November 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM #479212Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
http://creationmuseum.org/about/%5B/quote%5D
Pri: Yeahhhhh… On this one, I’m actually going to have to agree with Brian and say that certain people shouldn’t be allowed to propagate.
I had to sit through a discussion on this place with a Born Again Christian of the New Earth variety and I was ready to convert to Islam and issue a fatwa by the end of the conversation. But, as Cardiff correctly pointed out, these folks are outnumbered by sentient Christians by a good 10 – 1 margin. Hopefully.
November 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM #479293Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]No ignorance is more frightening than when its apparently cloaked in education.[/quote]
You mean like this?
http://creationmuseum.org/about/%5B/quote%5D
Pri: Yeahhhhh… On this one, I’m actually going to have to agree with Brian and say that certain people shouldn’t be allowed to propagate.
I had to sit through a discussion on this place with a Born Again Christian of the New Earth variety and I was ready to convert to Islam and issue a fatwa by the end of the conversation. But, as Cardiff correctly pointed out, these folks are outnumbered by sentient Christians by a good 10 – 1 margin. Hopefully.
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