Dollar Dropping

[4plexowner]

How to Prepare For China’s Coming Derivatives Default
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13426

this guy is using fear to sell his newsletter but there is good info on the China / derivative issue before he starts his sales pitch

[ralphfurley]

[quote=partypup]For my part, I am currently investigating a 6 acre parcel of farm land in CO with abundant water rights (river runs right through the property). The climate is mild and ripe for growing half of the year, and the winter brings fresh water to the valley form the snow pack. The community is small, progressive and very close-knit. I don’t have the the funds I need to buy it just yet, but I anticipate that come 2010 the dollar panic will push my metals where I need them so I can cash out the majority of them, buy my land, build a large storage shed for my food and other necessities so that I will have limited dependence on the world outside my bunker.
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Colorado heh? You’ll be the first one thrown in Denver International Airport.

[ralphfurley]

[quote=partypup]For my part, I am currently investigating a 6 acre parcel of farm land in CO with abundant water rights (river runs right through the property). The climate is mild and ripe for growing half of the year, and the winter brings fresh water to the valley form the snow pack. The community is small, progressive and very close-knit. I don’t have the the funds I need to buy it just yet, but I anticipate that come 2010 the dollar panic will push my metals where I need them so I can cash out the majority of them, buy my land, build a large storage shed for my food and other necessities so that I will have limited dependence on the world outside my bunker.
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Colorado heh? You’ll be the first one thrown in Denver International Airport.

[ralphfurley]

[quote=partypup]For my part, I am currently investigating a 6 acre parcel of farm land in CO with abundant water rights (river runs right through the property). The climate is mild and ripe for growing half of the year, and the winter brings fresh water to the valley form the snow pack. The community is small, progressive and very close-knit. I don’t have the the funds I need to buy it just yet, but I anticipate that come 2010 the dollar panic will push my metals where I need them so I can cash out the majority of them, buy my land, build a large storage shed for my food and other necessities so that I will have limited dependence on the world outside my bunker.
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Colorado heh? You’ll be the first one thrown in Denver International Airport.

[ralphfurley]

[quote=partypup]For my part, I am currently investigating a 6 acre parcel of farm land in CO with abundant water rights (river runs right through the property). The climate is mild and ripe for growing half of the year, and the winter brings fresh water to the valley form the snow pack. The community is small, progressive and very close-knit. I don’t have the the funds I need to buy it just yet, but I anticipate that come 2010 the dollar panic will push my metals where I need them so I can cash out the majority of them, buy my land, build a large storage shed for my food and other necessities so that I will have limited dependence on the world outside my bunker.
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Colorado heh? You’ll be the first one thrown in Denver International Airport.

[ralphfurley]

[quote=partypup]For my part, I am currently investigating a 6 acre parcel of farm land in CO with abundant water rights (river runs right through the property). The climate is mild and ripe for growing half of the year, and the winter brings fresh water to the valley form the snow pack. The community is small, progressive and very close-knit. I don’t have the the funds I need to buy it just yet, but I anticipate that come 2010 the dollar panic will push my metals where I need them so I can cash out the majority of them, buy my land, build a large storage shed for my food and other necessities so that I will have limited dependence on the world outside my bunker.
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Colorado heh? You’ll be the first one thrown in Denver International Airport.

[blahblahblah]

Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

If the Mad Max scenario hits this place is going to lock down like a Supermax Prison. You won’t get past the borders with anything, especially something that glows bright white under a metal detector.

I do agree that gold may spike in value very soon if there is a currency crisis. My fears are that the market is so liquid (very little actual metal moves, just paper certificates) and that the addition of ETFs like GLD and SLV have increased the possibility of gaming and manipulation tremendously. Buying coins and bullion might be a good hedge but of course using this in commerce is illegal and is likely to remain so for some time.

Ever read Dmitry Orlov? He lived through the Soviet Collapse and is predicting the same here. He has a lot of interesting info if you really think we’re heading down that path.

[blahblahblah]

Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

If the Mad Max scenario hits this place is going to lock down like a Supermax Prison. You won’t get past the borders with anything, especially something that glows bright white under a metal detector.

I do agree that gold may spike in value very soon if there is a currency crisis. My fears are that the market is so liquid (very little actual metal moves, just paper certificates) and that the addition of ETFs like GLD and SLV have increased the possibility of gaming and manipulation tremendously. Buying coins and bullion might be a good hedge but of course using this in commerce is illegal and is likely to remain so for some time.

Ever read Dmitry Orlov? He lived through the Soviet Collapse and is predicting the same here. He has a lot of interesting info if you really think we’re heading down that path.

[blahblahblah]

Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

If the Mad Max scenario hits this place is going to lock down like a Supermax Prison. You won’t get past the borders with anything, especially something that glows bright white under a metal detector.

I do agree that gold may spike in value very soon if there is a currency crisis. My fears are that the market is so liquid (very little actual metal moves, just paper certificates) and that the addition of ETFs like GLD and SLV have increased the possibility of gaming and manipulation tremendously. Buying coins and bullion might be a good hedge but of course using this in commerce is illegal and is likely to remain so for some time.

Ever read Dmitry Orlov? He lived through the Soviet Collapse and is predicting the same here. He has a lot of interesting info if you really think we’re heading down that path.

[blahblahblah]

Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

If the Mad Max scenario hits this place is going to lock down like a Supermax Prison. You won’t get past the borders with anything, especially something that glows bright white under a metal detector.

I do agree that gold may spike in value very soon if there is a currency crisis. My fears are that the market is so liquid (very little actual metal moves, just paper certificates) and that the addition of ETFs like GLD and SLV have increased the possibility of gaming and manipulation tremendously. Buying coins and bullion might be a good hedge but of course using this in commerce is illegal and is likely to remain so for some time.

Ever read Dmitry Orlov? He lived through the Soviet Collapse and is predicting the same here. He has a lot of interesting info if you really think we’re heading down that path.

[blahblahblah]

Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

If the Mad Max scenario hits this place is going to lock down like a Supermax Prison. You won’t get past the borders with anything, especially something that glows bright white under a metal detector.

I do agree that gold may spike in value very soon if there is a currency crisis. My fears are that the market is so liquid (very little actual metal moves, just paper certificates) and that the addition of ETFs like GLD and SLV have increased the possibility of gaming and manipulation tremendously. Buying coins and bullion might be a good hedge but of course using this in commerce is illegal and is likely to remain so for some time.

Ever read Dmitry Orlov? He lived through the Soviet Collapse and is predicting the same here. He has a lot of interesting info if you really think we’re heading down that path.

[partypup]

[quote=CONCHO]Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

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LOL. My dear sweet Concho, there are SO many ways to move metals out of the country. You need to educate yourself. But for starters, you need to learn to anticipate. Yes, if you are as slow as you seem to be now in picking up trends, then you will probably get nailed because you won’t head to the border until the hammer has already fallen. Driving across the border (and catching a plane from there) is also always an option. Quite easy to stash your metals in a car – unless you think we will soon reach a point where the U.S. will search ALL exiting vehicles for metals and cash. In which case, if you truly believe that’s on the horizon, then I would encourage you to leave the country NOW. Because I very much doubt you’d want to stay in a country like that, with or without metals in your possession.

But even assuming that you are on the “late freight” (as my friends in junior high school used to call it), consider the fact that at present it is still possibly to store some of your metals out of the country. You could always opt for a private vault (not a bank) in Switzerland or Austria. Or you could invest in Perth Mint certificates, which are redeemable by the government of Australia for allocated gold and silver upon demand. You would just sashay through the airport with a piece of paper. No metal detectors to bother you. Think you could handle that 😉 And the best part is wherever you are in the world, Perth will wire your proceeds to you in whatever currency you require, or deliver your physical metals. Yes, I’m sure you will say that certificates are just paper. But keep in mind that these aren’t ETFs. I’ve held Perth certificates in the past and have redeemed them for cash and physical metal delivery. It’s no problem. But seriously, since we all know metals will not be useful after a certain point, all you really need is the ability to convert them into whatever currency you need, wherever you plan to live.

One thing you are going to have to learn to do, Concho, if you truly want to survive what’s coming, is to think creatively and stop living in fear. Get your head outside of the box and at least pretend you’re a survivor, man!

Oh, as for bullion being illegal for use in commerce: who cares? Ever heard of a black market? Trust me, when the dollar evaporates people aren’t going to give one iota about the law, especially when most of the law enforcement officials will be unemployed, themselves. Liquor was illegal during Prohibition. Do you think people actually stopped drinking? LOL. Most people have an extremely strong survival instinct, Concho. I suggest you acquire one – and fast.

[partypup]

[quote=CONCHO]Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

[/quote]

LOL. My dear sweet Concho, there are SO many ways to move metals out of the country. You need to educate yourself. But for starters, you need to learn to anticipate. Yes, if you are as slow as you seem to be now in picking up trends, then you will probably get nailed because you won’t head to the border until the hammer has already fallen. Driving across the border (and catching a plane from there) is also always an option. Quite easy to stash your metals in a car – unless you think we will soon reach a point where the U.S. will search ALL exiting vehicles for metals and cash. In which case, if you truly believe that’s on the horizon, then I would encourage you to leave the country NOW. Because I very much doubt you’d want to stay in a country like that, with or without metals in your possession.

But even assuming that you are on the “late freight” (as my friends in junior high school used to call it), consider the fact that at present it is still possibly to store some of your metals out of the country. You could always opt for a private vault (not a bank) in Switzerland or Austria. Or you could invest in Perth Mint certificates, which are redeemable by the government of Australia for allocated gold and silver upon demand. You would just sashay through the airport with a piece of paper. No metal detectors to bother you. Think you could handle that 😉 And the best part is wherever you are in the world, Perth will wire your proceeds to you in whatever currency you require, or deliver your physical metals. Yes, I’m sure you will say that certificates are just paper. But keep in mind that these aren’t ETFs. I’ve held Perth certificates in the past and have redeemed them for cash and physical metal delivery. It’s no problem. But seriously, since we all know metals will not be useful after a certain point, all you really need is the ability to convert them into whatever currency you need, wherever you plan to live.

One thing you are going to have to learn to do, Concho, if you truly want to survive what’s coming, is to think creatively and stop living in fear. Get your head outside of the box and at least pretend you’re a survivor, man!

Oh, as for bullion being illegal for use in commerce: who cares? Ever heard of a black market? Trust me, when the dollar evaporates people aren’t going to give one iota about the law, especially when most of the law enforcement officials will be unemployed, themselves. Liquor was illegal during Prohibition. Do you think people actually stopped drinking? LOL. Most people have an extremely strong survival instinct, Concho. I suggest you acquire one – and fast.

[partypup]

[quote=CONCHO]Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

[/quote]

LOL. My dear sweet Concho, there are SO many ways to move metals out of the country. You need to educate yourself. But for starters, you need to learn to anticipate. Yes, if you are as slow as you seem to be now in picking up trends, then you will probably get nailed because you won’t head to the border until the hammer has already fallen. Driving across the border (and catching a plane from there) is also always an option. Quite easy to stash your metals in a car – unless you think we will soon reach a point where the U.S. will search ALL exiting vehicles for metals and cash. In which case, if you truly believe that’s on the horizon, then I would encourage you to leave the country NOW. Because I very much doubt you’d want to stay in a country like that, with or without metals in your possession.

But even assuming that you are on the “late freight” (as my friends in junior high school used to call it), consider the fact that at present it is still possibly to store some of your metals out of the country. You could always opt for a private vault (not a bank) in Switzerland or Austria. Or you could invest in Perth Mint certificates, which are redeemable by the government of Australia for allocated gold and silver upon demand. You would just sashay through the airport with a piece of paper. No metal detectors to bother you. Think you could handle that 😉 And the best part is wherever you are in the world, Perth will wire your proceeds to you in whatever currency you require, or deliver your physical metals. Yes, I’m sure you will say that certificates are just paper. But keep in mind that these aren’t ETFs. I’ve held Perth certificates in the past and have redeemed them for cash and physical metal delivery. It’s no problem. But seriously, since we all know metals will not be useful after a certain point, all you really need is the ability to convert them into whatever currency you need, wherever you plan to live.

One thing you are going to have to learn to do, Concho, if you truly want to survive what’s coming, is to think creatively and stop living in fear. Get your head outside of the box and at least pretend you’re a survivor, man!

Oh, as for bullion being illegal for use in commerce: who cares? Ever heard of a black market? Trust me, when the dollar evaporates people aren’t going to give one iota about the law, especially when most of the law enforcement officials will be unemployed, themselves. Liquor was illegal during Prohibition. Do you think people actually stopped drinking? LOL. Most people have an extremely strong survival instinct, Concho. I suggest you acquire one – and fast.

[partypup]

[quote=CONCHO]Also, keep in mind that the truly beautiful thing about gold is no matter how hellish this country gets or how much power TPTB exert, gold will continue to have value across borders. If you wake up one day and Obama has lost what’s left of his mind, and you realize that for your own protection and safety you need to get the hell out of Dodge, good luck relocating to another country with your garden seeds and food. Oh, and you may have to leave that house behind. I, on the other hand, will quietly scamper out with gold in my pockets and in a false bottom of a suitcase. And I will begin anew in a country that is more receptive to my needs.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Do you really think the TSA Gangstaz are gonna let you waltz through security with gold in your suitcase? Hell they’ll call the FBI and DEA and you’ll be found guilty of money laundering, thrown in the hoosegow, and all your gold will get confiscated. And if you do make it through security, what’s it going to feel like checking that box that says “I am carrying more than $10000USD in currency or valuables” on the customs form at whatever country you’re heading into? There are import taxes you know. Maybe you’ll chance it and leave that one blank I guess. That reminds me of my new favorite TV show, by the way — Locked Up Abroad.

[/quote]

LOL. My dear sweet Concho, there are SO many ways to move metals out of the country. You need to educate yourself. But for starters, you need to learn to anticipate. Yes, if you are as slow as you seem to be now in picking up trends, then you will probably get nailed because you won’t head to the border until the hammer has already fallen. Driving across the border (and catching a plane from there) is also always an option. Quite easy to stash your metals in a car – unless you think we will soon reach a point where the U.S. will search ALL exiting vehicles for metals and cash. In which case, if you truly believe that’s on the horizon, then I would encourage you to leave the country NOW. Because I very much doubt you’d want to stay in a country like that, with or without metals in your possession.

But even assuming that you are on the “late freight” (as my friends in junior high school used to call it), consider the fact that at present it is still possibly to store some of your metals out of the country. You could always opt for a private vault (not a bank) in Switzerland or Austria. Or you could invest in Perth Mint certificates, which are redeemable by the government of Australia for allocated gold and silver upon demand. You would just sashay through the airport with a piece of paper. No metal detectors to bother you. Think you could handle that 😉 And the best part is wherever you are in the world, Perth will wire your proceeds to you in whatever currency you require, or deliver your physical metals. Yes, I’m sure you will say that certificates are just paper. But keep in mind that these aren’t ETFs. I’ve held Perth certificates in the past and have redeemed them for cash and physical metal delivery. It’s no problem. But seriously, since we all know metals will not be useful after a certain point, all you really need is the ability to convert them into whatever currency you need, wherever you plan to live.

One thing you are going to have to learn to do, Concho, if you truly want to survive what’s coming, is to think creatively and stop living in fear. Get your head outside of the box and at least pretend you’re a survivor, man!

Oh, as for bullion being illegal for use in commerce: who cares? Ever heard of a black market? Trust me, when the dollar evaporates people aren’t going to give one iota about the law, especially when most of the law enforcement officials will be unemployed, themselves. Liquor was illegal during Prohibition. Do you think people actually stopped drinking? LOL. Most people have an extremely strong survival instinct, Concho. I suggest you acquire one – and fast.

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