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October 2, 2006 at 7:35 PM #37075October 2, 2006 at 7:54 PM #37079lewmanParticipant
“The fan comments is the most ignorant thing said so far. The forum is not a place of worship”
… very interesting response … and a negative one at that … I doubt that anyone “worships” you … some people like myself appreciate your effort, at times agreed with you and at other times don’t. And then of course there are those who are attacking you because they don’t like you the person …. very difficult to separate the person from the facts and opinion I guess
October 2, 2006 at 8:08 PM #37081powaysellerParticipantlewman, that’s the point I was trying to make: nobody worships me, nobody is my “fan”, so the comment made above that she is my fan is an insult.
October 2, 2006 at 8:26 PM #37082AnonymousGuestPerryC, while it may be hard to believe from your vantage point, from mine, the Union-Buffoon appears to be insipid leftist drivel, largely. Yes, there are a few editorials to my liking here and there, but then they mess it up with some dumb position on an important issue.
The U-B has done some fine investigative reporting — pensions, Cunningham — and I really, really appreciate such. But, I get tired of the Aguirre bashing (who else is going to take our weak, idiotic, path-of-least-resistance City Council on?). And, I quit reading the Arts section because it pushes nothing but provocative stuff.
But, when you have leftist owners, what do you expect?
Praise the Lord for Fox News, the web, and talk radio!
October 2, 2006 at 8:47 PM #37085sdduuuudeParticipantVADCMD – “Please dont be afraid of her posts”
I am not afraid of her posts. I just think they add nothing to the forums, belittle the work Rich has done, scare away new readers, and make everyone wade through drivel to find something useful.powayseller – “Start writing, folks! ”
There are two ways to make the forum more community oriented – one is for others to post more. Another is for you to post less. Fact of the matter is – the real estate market moves so slowly, daily insights are pretty much impossible to come by and you prove that several times a day. Before the forums, Rich would post a couple times a week and the site was amazingly valuable because he would wait to post until he had something interesting. Your attempts to provide insight HOURLY don’t work.Futhermore, one does not have to start threads to contribute, in my opinion.
lostkitty = “Make them interesting, inflammatory, or insightful enough to have them stay at the top and get responses”
Here’s one right here, kitty. Maybe there’s something to it, eh? MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOW.BikeRider – “This blog is in America, right?”
Yep – and we are free to express our concern over the mess powayseller is making of this great site.powayseller – “Don’t you see what’s really happening? I’m being used, totally”
If you really feel you are being used – please, by all means stop.powayseller – “I was the one who explained the median”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You learn something new and figure nobody else has understood it prior to you learning it. Then you post it and think you have taught everyone something, when in fact we knew it all along or read in Rich’s articles several months before you showed up.ex lurker – “I do not think … might have a chance”
Nice post. Well said.salo_t – “Does this mean that there’s nothing to talk about anymore? I really miss Rich’s articles but I have a feeling those have gone the way of the 400k condo’s.”
Hmmmmm. I’m starting to wonder that myself.To all:
The general notion that without powayseller, there would be no interesting posts is based on the assumptions that
1) her posts are interesting
2) the large volume of posts does not affect how often others post and
3) The forum needs more than one good insightful post a day.If she didn’t post so often, four things would happen:
1) We wouldn’t rely on her to keep the conversation going and would post more ourselves.
2) Those who do post wouldn’t have their threads lost in the quagmire of repetitive powayseller posts.
3) Others would spend time adding insight instead of critiquing (spelling?) her analysis, which is regularly flawed.
4) More new readers would view this as less of an extremist site and stick around longer, bringing a larger pool of potential thread-starters.whitesoftheireyes – “Powayseller, you’re a blog-jacker ”
Blogjacker is a new term to me, but a perfect one in this case. Thanks.October 2, 2006 at 9:35 PM #37096sdduuuudeParticipantIn the name of providing solutions instead of just complaining …
powayseller – The resounding response is favor of you having your own space, separate from this forum. I like that answer alot. Perhaps you could find a place where you can pay $20/month and start your own blog. Really, it would be more appropriate than making this your own personal blog as you have done.
Here, maybe start a “powayseller’s links of the day” thread every day at noon and put all the articles in there. If people like them, they can start a post about them in a new thread. This allows you to be heard, avoids too many threads clogging up the airways, and will get others to start posts.
Or, start a running “bull-bashing” thread and add a bit to it every time you want to hassle Lerah, UCLA or others. Again, this keeps it all in one place and avoids thread-clogging but doesn’t limit you in any way.
Here’s a great way for you to get started on your own blog:
Create a Username, then choose “Create a new forum.”I think it is free to start. If not, I’d be glad to pitch in $20 for you to have your own space for the bulk of your topics.
Do others know of “immediate startup” blogspaces ?
Remember – the most impressive people use few words and say alot. The least impressive use many words and say very little.
While you challenge me to post more, I challenge you to be more impressive by posting less and saying more. Maybe try to limit your time on this forum to 30 minutes or so per day, carefully picking only your best stuff to post. That will give you time to do something more productive than being a forum addict while allowing your bests posts to be seen.
October 2, 2006 at 9:57 PM #37092rankandfileParticipantAs much as I disagree with Perry's Kool-Aid liberalism, I have to agree with him on this topic. Yes, Powayseller does post a lot. I would go as far as to say (as others have done already) that without her this forum would fade into obscurity. In order to objectively analyze this issue, one has to take into account the events that have occurred over the past 9 months or so. IMHO, the pivotal event here is the point at which Rich took a new job. You must forgive me as I don't recall the exact title of the new position or the date at which he acquired it. The chart below shows my own personal interest level (value index) in the Pigginton.com experience.
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It is worthy to mention that I was perhaps the most cynical critic that came forward when Rich mentioned that he was taking his new job position and that the website would change as a result. As I recall I cried words like, "censorship!" as Rich explained he would no longer be able to provide the same type and level of input that he used to.
For about 1 to 1.5 months after Rich made the announcement, I was proven wrong – the website content, in my opinion, got even better and I remember checking it out multiple times per day and making a lot of posts. Soon afterward, however, another pivotal event occurred – the one where Powayseller announced that she would basically be leaving Piggington (or severely reducing her role) and start her own venture…the outcome of which is still not known to me.
Around this point, or just prior, I found that my own personal interest in Piggington started to wane. Not all of this can be blamed on the content of the site itself. It was summertime, I had (and still have) a lot of work to do, and I had a vacation coming up in August.
Powayseller's post quantity seemed to briefly dip for a spell, but it seems that now she has come back posting more than ever. I personally don't mind it. The beauty of the internet is that another post or thread is only a click or two away. Here are my solutions to the issue:
- I agree with other posters such as JES and ZK in that Powayseller should get her own category on this website…sort of like a show, or newspaper, contributor.
- Perhaps Powayseller should get her own forum. She has so much to contribute that she could very well do this on her own. In fact, I personally wonder the exact reasons why this hasn't been done yet…all the time that she puts into researching markets and posting on various websites could go into creating her own website.
- Rich needs to add content to the site more frequently. The first thing I look for when I come to this site is the date of Rich's last posting on the home page. If it is old, I am that much less likely to read on. My next step is to view the titles of the Active Forum Topics to see if they interest me.
- Go to the User Forums link in the left pane. This will allow you to see the latest posts as well as sort posts by different categories, such as who created the post. This will enable you to more easily find posts from other people.
October 2, 2006 at 10:38 PM #37100CardiffBaseballParticipantAt the risk of sounding pedantic, Waaaahhhhh.
Sheesh, maybe the perma-bulls or those coming for all viewpoints should start a blog about riding the fence with regard to the internet bubble.
Oh I forgot that stupid SDCIA site is out there for the Perma-Bulls. In any case most of the griping is from people who fundamentally disagree with PS’s predictions. Hell I don’t know that I agree either but it’s much more interesting when she is posting.
BTW I completely disagree with a whole lot of PS’s foreign policy posts, but I never wanted her banned. I certainly don’t want to see one of the flaming liberal brits or frenchy’s banned just because their worldview doesn’t match mine. Why should disagreement over the bubble mean any more to you whiners?
October 2, 2006 at 10:54 PM #37103sdcellarParticipantpowayseller
I’m sorry, did I post my topic in the wrong forum today? Discussing rents in relation to prices seemed like housing market discussion to me. Is this one of the unintelligent posts to which you refer? I didn’t complain about anything today as far as I know.
October 2, 2006 at 11:00 PM #37104SD RealtorParticipantI think people should post as much as they want. If you don’t like it don’t read it.
SD Realtor
October 3, 2006 at 5:18 AM #37110lostkittyParticipantsduude-
You quoted me as saying “Make them interesting, inflammatory, or insightful enough to have them stay at the top and get responses”
then you replied, “Here’s one right here, kitty. Maybe there’s something to it, eh? MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOW.”Well, HIIIISSSS… I was suggesting you start a thread related to the housing bubble… the constant critique of powayseller is not at all interesting and does not qualify as something contributory to this blog… and frankly, a big reason this site lost it’s appeal last spring (thank you for the graph on that subject rankandfile – are you sure of your calculations though? I feel we hit the peak a little sooner.) Of course, I do see that now that powayseller is back – there is a lot more activity here… It is just that one has to weed through ENDLESS critique by sduude and others of PS’s motivation and her prose. PLEASE get over yourselves! Obviously there is some play in the words “expect” and “at risk” when one is making a prediction in the business setting. For planning purposes, it is safe to assume that those “at risk” for default, will… and then go from there… making plans… making predictions does not mean it MUST happen that way… only that we should “expect” it to and be PREPARED in case it does. Get off your high horses everyone.
“Thanks for sharing that and participating in this forum. I invite you to consider my point of view…”
October 3, 2006 at 6:41 AM #37111powaysellerParticipantSome of the comments have been really good. I didn’t realize that people were using the upper right corner to see what threads were active, since I always went to the forums myself so I could see the entire list. I can totally see how my threads made the others push off the list. Sorry that I did not realize that before. It’s funny – you come to a site every day and don’t even notice the little things like that.
Thanks for the $20 offer, LOL. I started a blog in 1 minute once, it’s so easy. Blogs lack the features I need, so I tried designing my own website, but was in over my head. I hired a website designer.
Lots of good stuff in the forums today. sdcellar, I was not referring to you.
I did explain the median to everyone here, including Rich, so he and I have learned from each other along the way.
I also miss Rich’s content, and I’m guessing his posts will increase after he adapts to the new job. (SoCalMtgGuy cut back on his posts for a while after taking his new job, but then started posting again). There is still lots going on in the housing and employment market, and much to write about, so I’m going to keep checking back to see what Rich and you all have to say.
I appreciate all the kind words of support, and also thank sduuuude for “pushing me out of the nest”, so to speak. I just took a break from my own site, but need to get back to it, as he pointed out.
October 3, 2006 at 8:57 AM #37044AnonymousGuestAccidental re-post. I had meant to edit a typo. Sorry for the interruption.
October 3, 2006 at 8:57 AM #37119bubParticipantNo.
October 3, 2006 at 8:57 AM #37120sdduuuudeParticipantpowayseller – Thanks for taking this in a constructive manner. I think this thread also helped get people posting. There is alot of activity in the last day or two by many others.
Peace.
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