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October 12, 2017 at 4:23 PM #22432October 12, 2017 at 5:21 PM #808152
spdrun
ParticipantIf it don’t smell, don’t ask, don’t tell.
And you did it yourself, you didn’t hire anyone to do it. How many people change their own stoves in less posh areas?
It’s amazing that you even thought to ask us for permission here…
October 12, 2017 at 7:56 PM #808153SK in CV
ParticipantEither it was done by a licensed GC or it was done by a handyman. There is no such thing in California as an unlicensed general contractor. I’m pretty sure the law is still that if the total cost is $500 or more, a GC is required.
If someone is qualified to do this kind of work, there’s not many good reasons for them not to get their license.
October 12, 2017 at 8:05 PM #808154spdrun
ParticipantDefine “qualified.”
Someone may have done this kind of work abroad for years, had the ability to do it safely, but doesn’t have the formal schooling and/or apprenticeship required to become licensed in CA. We’re talking bureaucracy here, not rationality.
October 12, 2017 at 9:21 PM #808155FlyerInHi
GuestThink of it this way. What you do inside your home is your business.
That a guy contracts out his work with or without license is between him and the licensing board.
The only issue you might have with Insurance or the city is you do work that requires a permit without getting one. You don’t need permit to change out a stove. But you do need a permit to replace a water heater.
You can check directly with thr building Deparment. They will tell you what needs permitting. Notwithstanding a required permit, you can do owner-built, and you don’t need a license to work on your own single family house (condo and commercial are different). If anyone asks, just say you installed it yourself.
October 13, 2017 at 6:08 AM #808156Hobie
ParticipantFor you own peace of mind, you might give your gas utility a call for a free inspection. They will take a look at all gas appliances for proper operation. Nice service.
A quick call to your permit office will give you the correct answer. I’d verify to keep your insurance folks happy.
Remember the reason behind the permit. Safety. Those building codes are written from the blood of others. They are there for your protection.
Lots of well intentioned people, handymen or owners may make serious mistakes risking life safety. Permits help prevent this.
October 13, 2017 at 6:49 AM #808157Ribbles
Participant[quote=newdad]It seemed like a straightforward thing. Just unhook the existing one, attach a new flex pipe to regulator/cooktop , use detergent to check for leaks and then turn it on.[/quote]
In my experience, hooking up a gas line is actually easier than water plumbing. As long as you know he did it right (I’ve had movers forget to use sealant), there will be no issues.October 13, 2017 at 2:12 PM #808161spdrun
ParticipantSome building codes are written with the blood of others.
Others are made to make money for cities and union workers.
October 13, 2017 at 3:13 PM #808162FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=spdrun]Some building codes are written with the blood of others.
Others are made to make money for cities and union workers.[/quote]
Haha. I like how you put in.
30 year plan, 10 year plan… building and zoning is worse than communism.October 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM #808163spdrun
ParticipantI’m fine with zoning, etc, but some other requirements are excessive.
Ideally, I’d support requiring inspections (but not necessarily licensed installers) for things like modifying gas plumbing beyond the flex hose to the stove.
If the person doing the work is bonded and can pass inspection, union-driven licensing requirements tend to be excessive.
October 14, 2017 at 6:40 AM #808164Hobie
Participant[quote=spdrun]Some building codes are written with the blood of others.
Others are made to make money for cities and union workers.[/quote]
Absol-damn-utly!! Yes, it frosts me how they are exploiting the intent to make money.
October 14, 2017 at 8:16 AM #808165ucodegen
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]
The only issue you might have with Insurance or the city is you do work that requires a permit without getting one. You don’t need permit to change out a stove. But you do need a permit to replace a water heater.[/quote]Looks like I did an ‘un-permitted’ water heater replacement over 1 year ago 8-P. Ironically, it was replaced about 5 years before that by a licensed contractor – who FORGOT THE SACRIFICIAL ANODE! He also didn’t know how to correctly attach the overtemp/pressure release valve (he connected it to where the sacrificial anode goes, instead of the correct location on the side at the top.).
Another interesting side effect is the replacement (un-permitted) water heater replacement is producing hotter water with less energy and is a much larger water heater than its predecessor – and this newest replacement cost us much less to boot – both heaters were same basic ‘style’ of heater. What is strange is the yellow sticker on the newer one shows that it actually burns a bit more energy to heat the water than its predecessor. I wonder if some of the manufacturers are gaming the gas consumption (therms) by designing their water heater to be unable to heat to a standard reference temperature for doing accurate fuel consumption calculations.
NOTE: Useful tools for doing the replacement if the water heater is located on the required elevated pedestal in a garage – a long arm engine hoist and straps/ropes to make a sling. It makes it a piece of cake!
And yes, some of the regulations get kind of excessive, almost nany-state’sh.
October 14, 2017 at 10:20 PM #808166newdad
ParticipantSo I did call SDGE and they were kind enough to send over a person to check for leaks.
I wasn’t really worried about leaks, just didn’t know what the rules wrt insurance are since the insurance co always finds a way to wriggle out of paying anything. Seems like telling them “I did it” is the safest way to go.
Thanks for the excellent (as always) inputs!
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