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March 14, 2015 at 12:15 AM #783668March 14, 2015 at 9:57 AM #783678
Essbee
ParticipantThere is only one person at my kids’ school who knows where I went to college. It is certainly not something that comes up in everyday “soccer mom” conversation. Why would it?
Harvard made it to the second round in March madness in both 2013 and 2014. 🙂
Jeremy Lin played basketball at Harvard a few years back, too.
Not so bad…March 14, 2015 at 10:08 AM #783679Participantscaredyclassic wrote: “Need based aid is bullshit. Why is the family unit the source of money. In general 18 year Olds are adults. We don’t send families to prison when one member commits a crime. Why is a family’s assets and income pillaged for a degree for an adult who will get the benefits of that degree herself over many years
Why are families involved mandatorily at all???.
I honestly do not get it.
If I don’t want to pay it doesn’t matter my kid can’t get aid. But he’s not “rich”. None of my wealth, paltry as it is, Belongs to him at all…
Why involve families?”
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So, since the schools cost $60K per year now, and you prefer a no-aid system, this would mean that
only rich kids with parents who agree to pay would get to attend.Is that really what you want?
Why not just make the kids understand that they will pay back parents later? (or pay it forward to the next generation, as you mentioned).My particular school was really very generous. They even gave me a check with an extra $125 to buy a winter coat during freshman year. Many decades ago (maybe even 100 years ago), someone had created a “winter coat fund” for financially needy students from southern latitudes.
March 14, 2015 at 11:27 AM #783681scaredyclassic
Participant[quote=Essbee]scaredyclassic wrote: “Need based aid is bullshit. Why is the family unit the source of money. In general 18 year Olds are adults. We don’t send families to prison when one member commits a crime. Why is a family’s assets and income pillaged for a degree for an adult who will get the benefits of that degree herself over many years
Why are families involved mandatorily at all???.
I honestly do not get it.
If I don’t want to pay it doesn’t matter my kid can’t get aid. But he’s not “rich”. None of my wealth, paltry as it is, Belongs to him at all…
Why involve families?”
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So, since the schools cost $60K per year now, and you prefer a no-aid system, this would mean that
only rich kids with parents who agree to pay would get to attend.Is that really what you want?
Why not just make the kids understand that they will pay back parents later? (or pay it forward to the next generation, as you mentioned).My particular school was really very generous. They even gave me a check with an extra $125 to buy a winter coat during freshman year. Many decades ago (maybe even 100 years ago), someone had created a “winter coat fund” for financially needy students from southern latitudes.[/quote]
Yes. Everyone pays. If you don’t have the cash you borrow it. As it is, poor people get a free ride and the non rich non poor get liquidated or superheated indebted kids????. Is that any more fair?
Here’s what’s fair. Pay the price. No federal loans.
Let the free market determine the price. Price will plummet without federal loans.
Maybe not harvard. Screw harvard. I’m talking about overall…
poor get it free.
rich pay small change to them.
everyone else pays inflated price due to massive federal. Intervention in the market in the name of “access.”
the utter crappies of that is why I opt out. Cal state or bust.
My mom says I’m a hypocrite cause I gave the prestigious sheepskin.
March 14, 2015 at 11:29 AM #783687spdrun
ParticipantWhat about making public schools public and nearly free. As they used to be? Fund them enough from tax money to make them inexpensive enough to graduate with minimal debt.
March 14, 2015 at 11:31 AM #783688Participant[quote=spdrun]What about making public schools public and nearly free. As they used to be? Fund them enough from tax money to make them inexpensive enough to graduate with minimal debt.[/quote]
Yes. Do that.
No federal Loans.
Let harvard charge the rich 1 million a semester and let the poor go free.
No middle class person should go.
Let’s stop pretending we can afford this shit with fake federal loans
March 14, 2015 at 11:40 AM #783689Participant2013 defense + homeland security budget was $720 billion combined.
Cost to give every single undergrad in the US a $10,000 scholarship would be $170 billion. Figure it out. Fund education, not fascism and adventurism.
$10,000 per year would go a long way to making state universities affordable considering that average debt load on graduation is $30,000 total ($7,500 incurred per year).
I grew up in NJ. In-state tuition at Rutgers (excluding housing and food) is $11,000 per year now. Imagine all students being able to take classes for $1,000 per year.
March 14, 2015 at 11:40 AM #783690FlyerInHi
Guestspd, you have to understand the anti-education culture. The billy-badasses who don’t have education would rather spend money on war. Education is elitist and unnecessary.
March 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM #783693aaa
ParticipantI may be able to save you $200k…
You do not need to go to Harvard to work in finance. It’s too competitive a business for a firm to hire just from one school.
I worked for a major financial firm and spent a lot of time interviewing and hiring people. We recruited from 15 different universities in the US. A lot of those are private east coast schools, but Berkeley STEM majors are very highly recruited by both my firm and all the others.
March 14, 2015 at 1:48 PM #783695Participanthttp://www.jdunderground.com/ot/thread.php?threadId=86924
interesting thread in a chat group for disgruntled overindebted law students discussing whetehr or not they wuld be willing to pay for their own kids college.
these are the lawyers of today..supposedly the staunch middle class..theyve been fooled by the student loan complex and they wont let their kids get suckered again…
if anyone should bean educated consumers, screwed lawyers should be.
this website by the way should be REQUIRED READING for anyone contemplating dropping some cash on a law {or as they call is a LOL) degree…
March 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM #783697Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]spd, you have to understand the anti-education culture. The billy-badasses who don’t have education would rather spend money on war. Education is elitist and unnecessary.[/quote]
downsize the military.
downsize the univesrsity.so uch unnecessary spending, bloated salaries…
March 14, 2015 at 1:56 PM #783698ParticipantWhat’s wrong with going to public law school, working for a small niche law firm, then opening your own practice in a few years with minimal debt? It may not be glamorous, but it’s a trade.
March 14, 2015 at 3:47 PM #783701flyer
ParticipantAs your kids and their friends start graduating from college, start noting how many get not “a job,” but “the job” they want, and are able to buy homes (if they so choose.)
You might find the results shocking.
March 14, 2015 at 4:57 PM #783704Participant[quote=spdrun]What’s wrong with going to public law school, working for a small niche law firm, then opening your own practice in a few years with minimal debt? It may not be glamorous, but it’s a trade.[/quote]
That would be great but public law schools in ca. Are same price as private now. 50k a yr. For uc.
March 14, 2015 at 6:34 PM #783705Participant[quote=flyer]As your kids and their friends start graduating from college, start noting how many get not “a job,” but “the job” they want, and are able to buy homes (if they so choose.)
You might find the results shocking.[/quote]
no. I assume disaster. I am shocked when things even come close to working out
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