Coronavirus Endgame

[svelte]

oh this is all starting to feel like a machiavellian scheme from mother nature…

Americans isolated which brought the CV cases way way down.

Now Trump has two choices:
1. Keep the lockdown going into or through May and absolutely crush the economy

or

2. Get America back to work in May and see deaths skyrocket and fear set in again.

And only 7 months to go to election election day.

The Democrats could never have cooked up something this evil. I bow to Mother Nature’s cunning brilliance!

[outtamojo]

[quote=svelte]oh this is all starting to feel like a machiavellian scheme from mother nature…

Americans isolated which brought the CV cases way way down.

Now Trump has two choices:
1. Keep the lockdown going into or through May and absolutely crush the economy

or

2. Get America back to work in May and see deaths skyrocket and fear set in again.

And only 7 months to go to election election day.

The Democrats could never have cooked up something this evil. I bow to Mother Nature’s cunning brilliance![/quote]

States are taking the lead, as they have from the beginning because the Federal Gov. was good for sh!t.

[svelte]

[quote=outtamojo]
States are taking the lead, as they have from the beginning because the Federal Gov. was good for sh!t.[/quote]

That’s true, and it will be another club the Dems can hit Trump over the head with.

But he still has to make a recommendation…first he said the country should reopen by Easter, then he said he was going to mull over the decision over Easter weekend…and now on Tuesday I still haven’t heard what he came up with.

He can make no recommendation at all, but again that’s another club.

[FlyerInHi]

Svelte, I’m afraid that no matter what Trump does, Republicans will vote for him anyway. He’s their daddy. The tribal instinct has taken hold over logic.

It’s like kids who grow up in dysfunctional families. They love and defend their father regardless.

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[quote=svelte]The Democrats could never have cooked up something this evil. I bow to Mother Nature’s cunning brilliance![/quote]

So much more effective than the impeachment “plan”.

[svelte]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Svelte, I’m afraid that no matter what Trump does, Republicans will vote for him anyway. He’s their daddy. The tribal instinct has taken hold over logic.
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Same on the Democratic side.

What really matters is which way the moderates and undeclared folks lean.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=svelte]But he still has to make a recommendation[/quote]

I hope he recommends we get all the kids back in school and keep the old folks on quarantine. It is time – in San Diego, anyway.

If he is smart, he would publish numbers that can be used by state and local governments to decide when to lift each measure. Take himself out of the loop, since it is kind of a no-win situation.

Actually, he will do what he wants and claim the results are awesome, no matter what happens.

Dems will whine and Reps will cheer.

[sdduuuude]

US “New Cases” numbers starting to look better. Total cases looking linear now, not exponential.

Daily deaths, too – although it seems a bit choppy. Hard to pull a trend out of it.

Will probably overtake influenza deaths for this season in a couple of days.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=svelte][quote=FlyerInHi]Svelte, I’m afraid that no matter what Trump does, Republicans will vote for him anyway. He’s their daddy. The tribal instinct has taken hold over logic.
[/quote]

Same on the Democratic side.

What really matters is which way the moderates and undeclared folks lean.[/quote]

That’s not a fair comparison because Democrats have not selected a leader as divisive and mean spirited as Trump. Weak attempt to be “balanced”.

The people who matter are the “angry” voters of PA, WI, MI. Maybe independents will flip Florida, maybe.

If you think about it, Trump channels the angry men who think the world is against them. Same as a dysfunctional family where the patriarch is unhinged and abusive, yet the wife and kids think that’s normal. And that lifestyle perpetuates itself. You can’t compare that to a “normal” family.

What One Pennsylvania County Reveals About Trump’s Election
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/10/17/pennsylvania-trump-2016-election

[svelte]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=svelte][quote=FlyerInHi]Svelte, I’m afraid that no matter what Trump does, Republicans will vote for him anyway. He’s their daddy. The tribal instinct has taken hold over logic.
[/quote]

Same on the Democratic side.

What really matters is which way the moderates and undeclared folks lean.[/quote]

That’s not a fair comparison because Democrats have not selected a leader as divisive and mean spirited as Trump. Weak attempt to be “balanced”.
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No, the Dems did that last time with Hillary. I cannot believe you of all people would accuse someone of not being balanced. I’m not sure a balanced statement has ever left your lips!

[quote=FlyerInHi]
The people who matter are the “angry” voters of PA, WI, MI. Maybe independents will flip Florida, maybe.
[/quote]

And those angry voters will be the moderate or undeclared voters in those areas. Surely you’re not saying those angry voters are Republicans who, by your own words, will vote for Trump no matter what:

[quote=FlyerInHi]
I’m afraid that no matter what Trump does, Republicans will vote for him anyway.
[/quote]

[outtamojo]

Gavin’s got a plan https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-coronavirus-reopening-Gov-Gavin-15200205.php

[FlyerInHi]

Ok, if you think Hillary is the equivalent of Trump, then you have a point.

I do believe the people who elected Trump will vote for him again. He appeals to their “dignity” so no amount of economic harm Trump has done, they will support him. It’s like the dad in a dysfunctional family who drinks much and only works unstable gigs while he insults everyone else. The wife and kids still stick around.

To his credit, Trump is a winner. He appeals to a deep seated tribal instinct that no other president had before. It’s like a mafia-type brotherhood. You know you’re better offer going off to university and getting away….. but you still stick around the neighborhood and marry the highschool sweetheart. That’s family and comfort.

Trump is a winner because, as president, he became untouchable. No matter what he does, for pride reasons, the country will never put a president in jail like in Latin America. Trump will do whatever it takes to get re-elected, regardless of the consequences. Win or lose, Trump will come out the winner. The country may not win, but Trump wins.

Hillary is divisive for totally different reasons — she doesn’t bake cookies, she emasculates, etc…
remember, independents did vote for Hillary. She won by 3 million votes. But those didn’t matter.

[FlyerInHi]

Ian Bremmer thinks there will be economic contraction this whole year.
He’s usually optimistic.

[svelte]

so Mr. “Total Authority” has just realized that was gonna bite him in the arse and has decided to delegate the authority to the governors….right after Cuomo threatened to sue him!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8219511/Donald-Trump-says-individual-governors-decide-reopen-economy.html

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[quote=outtamojo]Gavin’s got a plan https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-coronavirus-reopening-Gov-Gavin-15200205.php%5B/quote%5D

I hope he lets the Mayors decide cuz I don’t want to wait around for all the other counties to get their act together.

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