Contact Tracing

[Hobie]

Govenor Newsom is ramping up hiring contact tracers. CDC is promoting this collection of data. While it makes sense on the surface, by rattling the cage it will generate a ton of ‘new’ contacts as potential carriers. They will be asked to quarantine.

It is going from a single test of one person to a huge sample of ‘possible’ positive carriers. Seriously, these venn diagrams are going to sweep damn near everyone up into having recent contact pool.

Guessing if several show up at a single workplace, State will require entire workplace or venue to close. It seems like this is creating a viscous circle. Places are allowed to open now, only to be closed again in weeks.

Convince me this is not a tactic to keep economy depressed for political reasons.

[zk]

[quote=Hobie]

Convince me this is not a tactic to keep economy depressed for political reasons.[/quote]

That’s like saying, “convince me there’s no god.”

Your theory, like god, is a ridiculous fantasy with no evidence to support it. If you need to be “convinced” against something like that, you probably believe it enough already that you can’t be convinced against it.

And besides, what evidence would there be for a lack of god or a lack of political motivation in this case?

How about this: Convince me that it is politically motivated. Using some kind of evidence.

[The-Shoveler]

Keep your phone GPS off IMO.

[ucodegen]

It is possible, or it is a panic’d response to the situation and the need to have things open (else the state coffers bleed massively red). The thing that really gets me is that they are not doing statistical testing (except the University in Corvallis, Oregon) and even the University in Corvallis, Oregon is not doing the antibody test to identify those that have had the disease and recovered.

Another thing that the media is not accurately covering is ‘what is immunity’.. they take the position that it would be impossible to get the disease for which one has immunity after they get immunity. That is not true. If a person is exposed to a disease for a sufficiently long time and in sufficient strength, they will still get the disease. They may get weaker symptoms – but a person with ‘immunity’ is not free to roll around in a vat filled with the disease..

[zk]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Keep your phone GPS off IMO.[/quote]

Yeah, and don’t wear a mask, either.

Fuck everybody else but ME!!

[The-Shoveler]

Seems like a design to keep everyone in perpetual lock down.

At some point I could see a revolt.

[zk]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Seems like a design to keep everyone in perpetual lock down.

At some point I could see a revolt.[/quote]

And what is your theory as to the motive to keep everyone in perpetual lock down?

[Hobie]

Bad economy helps elect a non-incumbent. That is my point.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Keep your phone GPS off IMO.[/quote]

Maybe it’s time to get an old style phone. I must have an old Nokia somewhere,

[ltsddd]

Contacts tracing has proven to be an effective method to keep the virus at bay. Not sure how practical and expensive it is to carry out here in the U.S., but the most successful countries in Asia in dealing with the virus employed similar strategy.

“By mid-March, Vietnam was sending everyone who entered the country – and anyone within the country who’d had contact with a confirmed case – to quarantine centres for 14 days.

Costs were mostly covered by the government, though accommodation was not necessarily luxurious. ”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52628283

“Korea’s strategy of targeted testing and aggressive contact tracing has been held up as a successful example of how to contain the virus — even as other countries have been slow to adopt it.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/14/whats-fueling-south-koreas-coronavirus-success-and-relapse-260115

We never know what will work and what won’t. But at least these countries had a plan and acted upon it.

[zk]

[quote=Hobie]Bad economy helps elect a non-incumbent. That is my point.[/quote]

So you have no evidence, then? You just made a wild assumption and you’re convinced of it until convinced otherwise?

[The-Shoveler]

Maybe moot point, all you need is a leader declare it.

Los Angles now saying July re-opening.

Just about all small biz will be BK by then IMO.
(The State not far behind).

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=ltsddd]Contacts tracing has proven to be an effective method to keep the virus at bay. Not sure how practical and expensive it is to carry out here in the U.S., but the most successful countries in Asia in dealing with the virus employed similar strategy.

“By mid-March, Vietnam was sending everyone who entered the country – and anyone within the country who’d had contact with a confirmed case – to quarantine centres for 14 days.

Costs were mostly covered by the government, though accommodation was not necessarily luxurious. ”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52628283

“Korea’s strategy of targeted testing and aggressive contact tracing has been held up as a successful example of how to contain the virus — even as other countries have been slow to adopt it.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/14/whats-fueling-south-koreas-coronavirus-success-and-relapse-260115

We never know what will work and what won’t. But at least these countries had a plan and acted upon it.[/quote]

I’m amazed that countries like Vietnam has achieved such excellent results.

[utcsox]

[quote=Hobie]Bad economy helps elect a non-incumbent. That is my point.[/quote]

Unfortunately, lefties spend money, too. Ultimately, if they don’t feel comfortable going out, there will be bad economy. Don’t believe me? See how Georgia is doing after opening up a month a go.

[FlyerInHi]

How’s the Apple/Google app going? Seem like we’re falling behind other countries in contract tracing.

Trump was touting the app months ago.

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