Congress to lay off 240,000

[scaredyclassic]

i dont remember the french smelling so bad during my lengthy sojourn there. of course, i don’t smell so great myself. you know, back in the Olde Days, you’d only take a bath once a year or so, from what i hear. i think we have become so thorough in cleansing ourselves that any deviance from no smell is repulsive. maybe we ar emeant to stink a bit.

[sd_matt]

Yup. The voters are the real nut jobs here. I mean..how much change have you all noticed in your lives through Dem or Rep controlled govt?

The periodic third party would keep them in check. It would at least be worth a try.

Debating these programs without first enforcing accountability is like arguing the exterior of a skyscraper that’s going to be built on quicksand.

BGIG…it think it would benefit you to re read the previous sentence about five thousand times.

[sd_matt]

Yup. The voters are the real nut jobs here. I mean..how much change have you all noticed in your lives through Dem or Rep controlled govt?

The periodic third party would keep them in check. It would at least be worth a try.

Debating these programs without first enforcing accountability is like arguing the exterior of a skyscraper that’s going to be built on quicksand.

BGIG…it think it would benefit you to re read the previous sentence about five thousand times.

[sd_matt]

Yup. The voters are the real nut jobs here. I mean..how much change have you all noticed in your lives through Dem or Rep controlled govt?

The periodic third party would keep them in check. It would at least be worth a try.

Debating these programs without first enforcing accountability is like arguing the exterior of a skyscraper that’s going to be built on quicksand.

BGIG…it think it would benefit you to re read the previous sentence about five thousand times.

[sd_matt]

Yup. The voters are the real nut jobs here. I mean..how much change have you all noticed in your lives through Dem or Rep controlled govt?

The periodic third party would keep them in check. It would at least be worth a try.

Debating these programs without first enforcing accountability is like arguing the exterior of a skyscraper that’s going to be built on quicksand.

BGIG…it think it would benefit you to re read the previous sentence about five thousand times.

[sd_matt]

Yup. The voters are the real nut jobs here. I mean..how much change have you all noticed in your lives through Dem or Rep controlled govt?

The periodic third party would keep them in check. It would at least be worth a try.

Debating these programs without first enforcing accountability is like arguing the exterior of a skyscraper that’s going to be built on quicksand.

BGIG…it think it would benefit you to re read the previous sentence about five thousand times.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
For the record, I was not singling the French out, as Brian implied, but rather pointing out that their model was creaking heavily and about to go “boom”.[/quote]

Have you heard of the French economic paradox? France is a very productive country despite the 35-hour work week and retirement at 60.

France has corporate giants in every field.

For a fair comparison, you have to compare France to England. Both countries were devastated by WWII. England is the country in Europe most closely following the American capitalist system (hence the Anglo Saxon model).

Except for the upper classes, the people in England don’t live very well. The food is terrible, the housing creaky, and there no “joie de vivre” like in France. Per capita GDP might be higher in England but the wealth is held by the upper class.

The Great Recession of 2008 is hurting British families. Debt is sky high and housing wealth has gone poof.

Over the last few decades (to even out for the bubble periods), compare a working-class Frenchman in Avignon to a working-class Brit in Leeds to a working-class American in Springfield, MO.

BTW, gauging cleanliness by the smell in the metro is far from accurate. Have you been to the Metro in New York and Philadelphia?

I do however agree that Europeans in general don’t bathe as much as Americans.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
For the record, I was not singling the French out, as Brian implied, but rather pointing out that their model was creaking heavily and about to go “boom”.[/quote]

Have you heard of the French economic paradox? France is a very productive country despite the 35-hour work week and retirement at 60.

France has corporate giants in every field.

For a fair comparison, you have to compare France to England. Both countries were devastated by WWII. England is the country in Europe most closely following the American capitalist system (hence the Anglo Saxon model).

Except for the upper classes, the people in England don’t live very well. The food is terrible, the housing creaky, and there no “joie de vivre” like in France. Per capita GDP might be higher in England but the wealth is held by the upper class.

The Great Recession of 2008 is hurting British families. Debt is sky high and housing wealth has gone poof.

Over the last few decades (to even out for the bubble periods), compare a working-class Frenchman in Avignon to a working-class Brit in Leeds to a working-class American in Springfield, MO.

BTW, gauging cleanliness by the smell in the metro is far from accurate. Have you been to the Metro in New York and Philadelphia?

I do however agree that Europeans in general don’t bathe as much as Americans.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
For the record, I was not singling the French out, as Brian implied, but rather pointing out that their model was creaking heavily and about to go “boom”.[/quote]

Have you heard of the French economic paradox? France is a very productive country despite the 35-hour work week and retirement at 60.

France has corporate giants in every field.

For a fair comparison, you have to compare France to England. Both countries were devastated by WWII. England is the country in Europe most closely following the American capitalist system (hence the Anglo Saxon model).

Except for the upper classes, the people in England don’t live very well. The food is terrible, the housing creaky, and there no “joie de vivre” like in France. Per capita GDP might be higher in England but the wealth is held by the upper class.

The Great Recession of 2008 is hurting British families. Debt is sky high and housing wealth has gone poof.

Over the last few decades (to even out for the bubble periods), compare a working-class Frenchman in Avignon to a working-class Brit in Leeds to a working-class American in Springfield, MO.

BTW, gauging cleanliness by the smell in the metro is far from accurate. Have you been to the Metro in New York and Philadelphia?

I do however agree that Europeans in general don’t bathe as much as Americans.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
For the record, I was not singling the French out, as Brian implied, but rather pointing out that their model was creaking heavily and about to go “boom”.[/quote]

Have you heard of the French economic paradox? France is a very productive country despite the 35-hour work week and retirement at 60.

France has corporate giants in every field.

For a fair comparison, you have to compare France to England. Both countries were devastated by WWII. England is the country in Europe most closely following the American capitalist system (hence the Anglo Saxon model).

Except for the upper classes, the people in England don’t live very well. The food is terrible, the housing creaky, and there no “joie de vivre” like in France. Per capita GDP might be higher in England but the wealth is held by the upper class.

The Great Recession of 2008 is hurting British families. Debt is sky high and housing wealth has gone poof.

Over the last few decades (to even out for the bubble periods), compare a working-class Frenchman in Avignon to a working-class Brit in Leeds to a working-class American in Springfield, MO.

BTW, gauging cleanliness by the smell in the metro is far from accurate. Have you been to the Metro in New York and Philadelphia?

I do however agree that Europeans in general don’t bathe as much as Americans.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
For the record, I was not singling the French out, as Brian implied, but rather pointing out that their model was creaking heavily and about to go “boom”.[/quote]

Have you heard of the French economic paradox? France is a very productive country despite the 35-hour work week and retirement at 60.

France has corporate giants in every field.

For a fair comparison, you have to compare France to England. Both countries were devastated by WWII. England is the country in Europe most closely following the American capitalist system (hence the Anglo Saxon model).

Except for the upper classes, the people in England don’t live very well. The food is terrible, the housing creaky, and there no “joie de vivre” like in France. Per capita GDP might be higher in England but the wealth is held by the upper class.

The Great Recession of 2008 is hurting British families. Debt is sky high and housing wealth has gone poof.

Over the last few decades (to even out for the bubble periods), compare a working-class Frenchman in Avignon to a working-class Brit in Leeds to a working-class American in Springfield, MO.

BTW, gauging cleanliness by the smell in the metro is far from accurate. Have you been to the Metro in New York and Philadelphia?

I do however agree that Europeans in general don’t bathe as much as Americans.

[Anonymous]

[quote=”Allan’]I’m tired of the same old tired rhetoric that conflates conservatism with born-again Christianity (another group I have significant issues with)[/quote]

I’m tired of it too Allan…but the situation is not that simple.

The “conflating” of conservatism with hard-right Christianity comes from the right these days as much as it does from the left.

Not everyone from the right, but those with the most power and the loudest voice. Look how Limbaugh reacted to criticism of Christine O’Donnell (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/limbaugh-slams-rove-odonnell/) Any attempt to moderate the hard-right is squashed by the de-facto leadership of the party.

I would be very happy to see the day when the conservative media reflects the voice of the Allan from Fallbrooks of the world.

But today we have Glen Beck telling us to “Pray on It.”

I believe that the right *has* been overwhelmed by the “Bible-thumpers” – not just because the left is presenting it that way – but because the power on the right wants it that way. It has led them to great success, so it will continue.

The only folks that can fix this problem are the reasonable and sane folks on the right – they have to call BS on this nonsense.

So it’s up to you, my friend.

Care to run for office? My checkbook is open…

[Anonymous]

[quote=”Allan’]I’m tired of the same old tired rhetoric that conflates conservatism with born-again Christianity (another group I have significant issues with)[/quote]

I’m tired of it too Allan…but the situation is not that simple.

The “conflating” of conservatism with hard-right Christianity comes from the right these days as much as it does from the left.

Not everyone from the right, but those with the most power and the loudest voice. Look how Limbaugh reacted to criticism of Christine O’Donnell (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/limbaugh-slams-rove-odonnell/) Any attempt to moderate the hard-right is squashed by the de-facto leadership of the party.

I would be very happy to see the day when the conservative media reflects the voice of the Allan from Fallbrooks of the world.

But today we have Glen Beck telling us to “Pray on It.”

I believe that the right *has* been overwhelmed by the “Bible-thumpers” – not just because the left is presenting it that way – but because the power on the right wants it that way. It has led them to great success, so it will continue.

The only folks that can fix this problem are the reasonable and sane folks on the right – they have to call BS on this nonsense.

So it’s up to you, my friend.

Care to run for office? My checkbook is open…

[Anonymous]

[quote=”Allan’]I’m tired of the same old tired rhetoric that conflates conservatism with born-again Christianity (another group I have significant issues with)[/quote]

I’m tired of it too Allan…but the situation is not that simple.

The “conflating” of conservatism with hard-right Christianity comes from the right these days as much as it does from the left.

Not everyone from the right, but those with the most power and the loudest voice. Look how Limbaugh reacted to criticism of Christine O’Donnell (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/limbaugh-slams-rove-odonnell/) Any attempt to moderate the hard-right is squashed by the de-facto leadership of the party.

I would be very happy to see the day when the conservative media reflects the voice of the Allan from Fallbrooks of the world.

But today we have Glen Beck telling us to “Pray on It.”

I believe that the right *has* been overwhelmed by the “Bible-thumpers” – not just because the left is presenting it that way – but because the power on the right wants it that way. It has led them to great success, so it will continue.

The only folks that can fix this problem are the reasonable and sane folks on the right – they have to call BS on this nonsense.

So it’s up to you, my friend.

Care to run for office? My checkbook is open…

[Anonymous]

[quote=”Allan’]I’m tired of the same old tired rhetoric that conflates conservatism with born-again Christianity (another group I have significant issues with)[/quote]

I’m tired of it too Allan…but the situation is not that simple.

The “conflating” of conservatism with hard-right Christianity comes from the right these days as much as it does from the left.

Not everyone from the right, but those with the most power and the loudest voice. Look how Limbaugh reacted to criticism of Christine O’Donnell (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/limbaugh-slams-rove-odonnell/) Any attempt to moderate the hard-right is squashed by the de-facto leadership of the party.

I would be very happy to see the day when the conservative media reflects the voice of the Allan from Fallbrooks of the world.

But today we have Glen Beck telling us to “Pray on It.”

I believe that the right *has* been overwhelmed by the “Bible-thumpers” – not just because the left is presenting it that way – but because the power on the right wants it that way. It has led them to great success, so it will continue.

The only folks that can fix this problem are the reasonable and sane folks on the right – they have to call BS on this nonsense.

So it’s up to you, my friend.

Care to run for office? My checkbook is open…

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