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June 12, 2014 at 7:26 AM #21123June 12, 2014 at 7:45 AM #774994spdrunParticipant
What % of those shootings involved a student randomly “going postal” vs gang/personal violence in schools, which has been going on for eons (sadly)?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/
(apparently 15 out of 74, so 20%)I’ll bet that a kid has a greater chance of being hit by a truck crossing the street walking home from school than of getting mixed up in a random school shooting.
Solution is for the mainstream media to STOP PUBLICIZING THIS CRAP. I’m not advocating for censorship. I’m arguing for a gentleman’s agreement to give this kind of lunacy a passing mention vs putting it on a 24-hour news cycle and using it to gain attention and push agendas.
It’s well-known that media attention promotes copycats.
June 12, 2014 at 8:24 AM #774996SK in CVParticipantCouldn’t possibly be that one of the fixes would be to reduce the number of available bullets.
June 12, 2014 at 8:57 AM #774999livinincaliParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Couldn’t possibly be that one of the fixes would be to reduce the number of available bullets.[/quote]
Hi Ford we’re from the government. Our roads are too congested and too many people are dying in car accidents. We’re placing a limit on how many cars you can sell each year.
Is it constitutional for the government to dictate a limit on how many products a private company can sell or how many private companies providing those products can exist?
June 13, 2014 at 2:19 AM #775060CA renterParticipant[quote=spdrun]
Solution is for the mainstream media to STOP PUBLICIZING THIS CRAP. I’m not advocating for censorship. I’m arguing for a gentleman’s agreement to give this kind of lunacy a passing mention vs putting it on a 24-hour news cycle and using it to gain attention and push agendas.
It’s well-known that media attention promotes copycats.[/quote]
Bingo.
June 13, 2014 at 12:39 PM #775075allParticipant[quote=livinincali]
Is it constitutional for the government to dictate a limit on how many products a private company can sell or how many private companies providing those products can exist?[/quote]Does not that happen all the time? All kinds of quotas are being enforced.
June 13, 2014 at 4:59 PM #775080paramountParticipantHere is the true solution (to eliminate/reduce mass/public shootings):
1. Raise families/kids with a solid/legit church background
2. One parent home with the kids except in rare circumstances
3. Vote Tea Party/Libertarian
The Tea Party stands for liberty/freedom, self-reliance and rugged individualism. That’s what built this country.
And yes, I’m serious.
The progressives have nearly destroyed this country – and the mass/public shootings are among the most glaring symptom of a diseased society/country – a disease whose primary cause IS progressive and liberal agendas.
Gun Control and Bullet Proof crap will NEVER solve the problem or even come close.
June 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM #775081SK in CVParticipant[quote=paramount]The Tea Party stands for liberty/freedom, self-reliance and rugged individualism. That’s what built this country during the greatest generation.
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I don’t think so. What really built this country in the 40 years after the depression was union membership. It built the best economy the country has ever seen.
June 13, 2014 at 6:42 PM #775083joecParticipantI’m not sure when WWII started in Europe, but the only reason I think the US had such a boom during the late 30s – 70s is because of the industrialization of the world and everyone else who had manufacturing capacity was dead/bombed out already.
The US came out mostly unscathed after WW2 so they were ripe to dominate the world economic stage when the war ended.
Unless WWIII comes, I don’t forsee us repeating a great middle class economy since there really is no need for the slack labor out there. Liberty/freedom, self-reliance and rugged individualism doesn’t amount to a whole lot if you can’t find decent work/job because there is limited opportunity. You can see it already with recent college grads who are not of the STEM flavor. After 5-10 years working in a non-degree needed job, they are just going to fall further and further behind.
One reason I believe luck has a lot more to do with one’s financial success a lot of times since being at the right/place time trumps hard work.
June 13, 2014 at 9:20 PM #775089paramountParticipant[quote=joec] Liberty/freedom, self-reliance and rugged individualism doesn’t amount to a whole lot if you can’t find decent work/job because there is limited opportunity. [/quote]
On the contrary, those are the very things you’ll need to survive – one way or another.
June 13, 2014 at 10:08 PM #775092SK in CVParticipant[quote=paramount][quote=joec] Liberty/freedom, self-reliance and rugged individualism doesn’t amount to a whole lot if you can’t find decent work/job because there is limited opportunity. [/quote]
On the contrary, those are the very things you’ll need to survive – one way or another.[/quote]
Yep. FEMA camps are coming. Government is tyranny. Anarchy is freedom.
June 13, 2014 at 10:38 PM #775093paramountParticipant[quote=SK in CV]
Yep. FEMA camps are coming. Government is tyranny. Anarchy is freedom.[/quote]
Anarchy is almost always the opposite of freedom, since it typically invites scrutiny and kinetic action. Order from chaos.
June 14, 2014 at 7:10 AM #775100ocrenterParticipant[quote=livinincali][quote=SK in CV]Couldn’t possibly be that one of the fixes would be to reduce the number of available bullets.[/quote]
Hi Ford we’re from the government. Our roads are too congested and too many people are dying in car accidents. We’re placing a limit on how many cars you can sell each year.
Is it constitutional for the government to dictate a limit on how many products a private company can sell or how many private companies providing those products can exist?[/quote]
That’s the typical “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” argument. The problem is cars are not manufactured with killing as the main objective. Guns are.
If roads are congested, the government does work on policies to reduce car use, does it not? If people are dying from defects from the manufacturer, the manufacturer is investigated.
Meanwhile, if a gun causes death, it has done its job.
By the way, isn’t it ironic you brought up cars when cars are ALL registered while most guns intake country are not.
June 14, 2014 at 7:24 AM #775101ocrenterParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=spdrun]
Solution is for the mainstream media to STOP PUBLICIZING THIS CRAP. I’m not advocating for censorship. I’m arguing for a gentleman’s agreement to give this kind of lunacy a passing mention vs putting it on a 24-hour news cycle and using it to gain attention and push agendas.
It’s well-known that media attention promotes copycats.[/quote]
Bingo.[/quote]
Again, just ignore the elephant in the room and blame everything else.
We’ve already blamed videogames, psychiatrists, bullies, parents, being godless, too much medications, being off medications, media, the government, even not enough good guys with guns.
But plenty of countries have much much lower death from gun violence despite being godless, despite having videogames, despite having populations that shun psychiatric care, despite taking the same meds, despite having the same medication non-compliant problem.
And please remember the former penal colony of Australia has much lower gun death and incarceration rate than us, so it isn’t in our genes either.
June 14, 2014 at 7:37 AM #775102ocrenterParticipant[quote=paramount]Here is the true solution (to eliminate/reduce mass/public shootings):
1. Raise families/kids with a solid/legit church background
2. One parent home with the kids except in rare circumstances
3. Vote Tea Party/Libertarian
The Tea Party stands for liberty/freedom, self-reliance and rugged individualism. That’s what built this country.
And yes, I’m serious.
The progressives have nearly destroyed this country – and the mass/public shootings are among the most glaring symptom of a diseased society/country – a disease whose primary cause IS progressive and liberal agendas.
Gun Control and Bullet Proof crap will NEVER solve the problem or even come close.[/quote]
People turn to God and religion when things are out of control. That’s why people always pray and turn to whatever god they worship during earthquakes and typhoon/hurricane or other natural disasters.
You are turning to your God because we have flooded this country with guns and ammo and things are unraveling and becoming out of control. Yet you still love your guns and too paranoid to support registration and control.
Given complete lack of control over this conflicting loveaffair with guns yet scared at the same time because of the uunraveling increase in gun violence, you turn to, of course, GOD.
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