Companies relocating out San Diego…

[an]

[quote=spdrun]Oh, I agree. We’re still talking about two different evolutionary tracks.

One is a phone that grew a big screen and de-emphasized the phone features. The other is a laptop that grew a touch screen.[/quote]what’s your point? They’re similar priced, similar size, similar resolution, etc. Who cares how it got there. They all are trying to reach the same goal, be the device you own. Why would Microsoft follow Android / iOS foot step when they have windows platform to leverage from.

[Coronita]

[quote=AN]flu, I’m not so sure about your 3-legged race part. I wouldn’t count out Intel if I were you. They seem to do a pretty good job with Broadwell and Haswell. If they can continue on that trajectory and integrate LTE (which last I heard should be soon), would be a force to be reckon with. They also just announced that they found a way to reduce GPU power consumption by 40%. That’s huge. They’re also aiming for the <$100 tablet market too. We'll see how this market evolve. MediaTek has been on a massive rise because of Android. My question is, what would happen if Microsoft decides to make WP and WindowsRT free. That's the rumor that I'm hearing floating around. If they do, it would give OEM huge incentives to switch over to Microsoft ecosystem instead of Android, since OEM have to pay both Microsoft and Apple (and in some cases, i.e. HTC, to Nokia as well) for every Android devices that they make. If Android goes into a decline and Windows increases marketshare, I think MediaTek would be in trouble, since Windows only support Qualcomm chips and full Windows supporting only Intel. It's interesting time ahead, but somehow, I think Intel and Qualcomm might turn out to be dual-opoly if Microsoft succeed.[/quote] I haven't seen any intel platforms on the market making a sizeable dent... Intel's problems are three folds... 1. There x86 architecture still has yet to gain traction in mobile app processor 2. They still have no connectivity solution (bluetooth/wifi/etc).... 3. Still waiting for LTE to ship... Same could be said for Nvidia 1. No connectivity solution 2. LTE still yet to ship 3. Decent app processor though.... Qualcomm has all three (though the connectivity solution is so-so...)... MediaTek has all three as well, though not a high end solution..... 2014 is a make or break year for many of the companies

[spdrun]

Uh what? Intel has been making WiFi/Bluetooth chips for years.

Speaking to a previous poster, the problem with Windows Phone/RT is that the OS is utter crippled garbage. Windows on tablets beats out iOS or Android in functionality when we’re talking about Windows 8 or 8 Pro running on a mobile device (with 10+ years of software developed for Windows behind it), not a “lite” version that’s limited to “Metro(sexual)” craplets from the Microsoft store.

[an]

Flu, you’re right, Intel’s SoC is lacking on the radio side right now. However, my point is that they have a huge war chest and they’re dead set on catching up in SoC market soon. They’ve made huge stride in the power department very quickly, so I wouldn’t count them out just yet.

spdrun, what is your point? It sounds like you’ve never use any of these devices before. I’ve used all 3/4 and I’ve developed for all 3/4. So I know their strength and weaknesses and understand why each company made the decision they made. You on the other hand sound like someone who wish every devices run Linux.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]Uh what? Intel has been making WiFi/Bluetooth chips for years.

Speaking to a previous poster, the problem with Windows Phone/RT is that the OS is utter crippled garbage. Windows on tablets beats out iOS or Android in functionality when we’re talking about Windows 8 or 8 Pro running on a mobile device (with 10+ years of software developed for Windows behind it), not a “lite” version that’s limited to “Metro(sexual)” craplets from the Microsoft store.[/quote]

Not in the majority for mobile/tablets… Check your facts…They aren’t there…They bought infineon for that purpose. But sold it off at a huge loss to Marvel a 3-4 years ago… And Marvel IS doing reasonably well.

[spdrun]

Not in the majority for mobile/tablets..

Why can’t the Intel wireless chipset be used in W8/W8 Pro tablets, which are basically laptops in a different housing? (4G connectivity is a separate can of worms, but AFAIK, Intel does make the hardware for WiFi and Bluetooth.)

I do wish that all devices ran a more open OS (not necessarily Linux), and I hope that Steve Jobs is rotting in agony in Hell for introducing the walled-garden concept to the world.

The only modern Windows device I’d be interested in owning would be a full W8/W8 Pro device, capable of running full desktop software as well as craplets.

For a limited-use tablet, I’d sooner go Android, which has a much larger app ecosystem than the MS store, and doesn’t deign to restrict users to their ecosystem per force.

And yes, I’ve used iOS, Android, MS, and Apple devices. I can understand the utility of the more locked-down devices, but I find the concept repulsively unacceptable and will NOT pay a fucking dime to run an OS that’s deliberately and maliciously crippled out of the box. Period, end of story.

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So I get to trail handsets and I have to say that I love the Win 8 system coupled with the Samsung device. Very nice. I think it out performs the Android and iOS in terms of user experience.

CE

[spdrun]

Call me weird, but strictly as a phone and communication device, my late 2011-era Blackberry kicks 95% of the devices I’ve seen made by the big four up and down the block. Amazing battery life, quiescent battery life measured in weeks, nearly instant boot time after turned off, very fast email delivery via BB’s infrastructure, excellent sound and reception as a phone, full tactile keyboard, pocket size, seamless WiFi roaming built in, etc.

For anything else, I use a tablet or small laptop. To some extent, I also find the limitations of the BB to be refreshing. It keeps me in touch, lets me check, respond to email, take calls, take pics, do maps, check web sites, but isn’t intrusive in the sense that it tempts me to surf the Web while walking down the street.

I used to have an iPhone, and felt tempted to play with it too much — it decreased my awareness of the world around me, and that bothered me.

[spdrun]

As a new handset, I’d love to play with a Jolla/Sailfish phone… The OS looks really beautiful and interesting, minimalist concept and battery life appeal to me, but apparently the thing doesn’t support US 3G/LTE bands and is generally very beta.

http://www.whatsupmarkets.com/jolla-smartphone-minimalist-phone-created-geeks/

Might also try out the Sony Experia Z1-Compact phone. Also not available in the US, but it seems to be compatible with T-Mo’s US network, so I could probably get one that fell from a truck onto EBay…

[an]

[quote=spdrun]Call me weird, but strictly as a phone and communication device, my late 2011-era Blackberry kicks 95% of the devices I’ve seen made by the big four up and down the block….[/quote]Haha, you’re weird. Talk about comparing apples and oranges…

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[quote=AN][quote=spdrun]Call me weird, but strictly as a phone and communication device, my late 2011-era Blackberry kicks 95% of the devices I’ve seen made by the big four up and down the block….[/quote]Haha, you’re weird. Talk about comparing apples and oranges…[/quote]

More like comparing apples and blackberries

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