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May 8, 2015 at 9:08 AM #786000May 8, 2015 at 9:23 AM #786001
CoronitaParticipant[quote=spdrun]
That’s not true. Ask Qualcomm engineer that works in QCT or any Broadcom engineer that is in Rancho Bernardo or Intel engineer that works in Rancho Bernardo or many of the tech startups here or many of the defense contractors here (the ones that are left).
I know more defense contractor types than QC/BC people, and the former seem to work fairly normal hours. Just driving, I’ve also seen “rush hour” as being basically done by 6-6:30 pm, meaning that people leave before 6 pm.[/quote]
Defense contractors have gone up and down. When they get a contract, they are often under a gun. If they aren’t busy, chances they don’t have a large contract and their job is at risk. Just saying. Also, I wouldn’t want to be at a defense company in san diego right now, considering these contractors have been trying to consolidate near DC. Also, defense companies in SD have some of the worst compensation packages.
May 8, 2015 at 9:24 AM #786002an
Participant[quote=flu]Lol, you’re lucky to even get the recruiters to bite by them offering you a 15-25% bump. In recent times, I’ve never been successful getting them to even offer that. I must have done a decent job negotiating my package here in SD because whenever I get a recruiter to call from the bay area asking me to relocate, I mention the cost issue with the bay area, and they immediately tell me about the 15-25% bump. But then when we actually start talking about numbers, they end up saying 15-25% is too much and then try to tell me about “pre-ipo” shares when some of the companies are only in the 2nd stage of funding…. And of course, good luck trying to get an early stage startupto offer with pre-ipo shares with a non-dilution clause..Most enginerds aren’t important enough for them to do that. I had one recruiter that asked me if I was sure my comp was in SD markets….lol… I guess this also means that when/if I do get axed, I’m going to need to take a significant paycut down here…Because when you turn 40ish, it’s never a question if, it’s a question of when…lol….[/quote]15-25% is in the whole range of experiences and across all the companies. Google and Facebook would pay you 20-25% more. Startups probably will pay you 0% more but pitch the IPO options. Apple is probably in the 10-15% range. So, again, it really depend on which company. QCOM increase your salary by 10-15% if you relocate from SD to bay area. I know other companies that give you a similar 10-15% COL adjustments for the move.
May 8, 2015 at 9:25 AM #786003spdrun
ParticipantI don’t see the naval facilities, Pendleton, Miramar, etc going anywhere any time soon. That’s why the defense contractors are in SD and will likely remain.
The people I know are busy, but they still work fairly normal hours by NY or SF standards.
May 8, 2015 at 9:29 AM #786004CoronitaParticipant[quote=spdrun]I don’t see the naval facilities, Pendleton, Miramar, etc going anywhere any time soon. That’s why the defense contractors are in SD and will likely remain.
The people I know are busy, but they still work fairly normal hours by NY or SF standards.[/quote]
Your opinion doesn’t matter. Ask all the ex-employees from BAE or Northrop Grumman in Rancho Bernardo that were downsized over the past few years.
If you want a cushy job with sub-optimal pay, you can work for a defense contractor that is just in maintenance mode in the bay area as you would here. There would probably be a cost of living adjustment for that too.
May 8, 2015 at 9:31 AM #786005Participant[quote=spdrun]I don’t see the naval facilities, Pendleton, Miramar, etc going anywhere any time soon. That’s why the defense contractors are in SD and will likely remain.
The people I know are busy, but they still work fairly normal hours by NY or SF standards.[/quote]
That’s true. They are consolidating the bases on the West coast to San Diego as well. So, I don’t see military presence in SD going away anytime soon. If anything, it might grow due to the consolidation as well as the transitioning from traditional warfare to cyber warfare.May 8, 2015 at 9:36 AM #786006Participant[quote=flu]Your opinion doesn’t matter. Ask all the ex-employees from BAE or Northrop Grumman in Rancho Bernardo that were downsized over the past few years.
If you want a cushy job with sub-optimal pay, you can work for a defense contractor that is just in maintenance mode in the bay area as you would here. There would probably be a cost of living adjustment for that too.[/quote]
If you really want cushy jobs with sub-optimal pay, you’d work for the military directly.May 8, 2015 at 9:43 AM #786007Participant^^^
Risking having your butt shot isn’t very cushy.
May 8, 2015 at 9:49 AM #786008Participant[quote=spdrun]^^^
Risking having your butt shot isn’t very cushy.[/quote]
You can’t get your butt shot being an engineer at a depot repairing/maintaining/managing ships/aircrafts in San Diego. I didn’t say be an active military. You can be an engineer civilian working for the military.May 8, 2015 at 10:52 AM #786012SD Realtor
ParticipantGood to see things haven’t changed.
May 8, 2015 at 12:02 PM #786013fun4vnay2
ParticipantI have lot of friends in defense contractor / engineers who were let go in last few years
They had to move out of san diego and no good jobs hereMay 8, 2015 at 5:58 PM #786016joec
ParticipantI think for a lot of people, once you get older and have a family, kids, want better hours, etc…the bay area becomes a pretty poor place to be since the housing costs are so much higher compared to here and you probably can’t (or don’t want to) put in the hours as the young, single engineer trying to get acquired/go public…If you’re single, and all your friends are also doing the startup thang…working is not a big deal.
They (media/bloomberg today) said the fitbit IPO now is because they think Apple will kill them and they are trying to rush to cash out…
Who knows…One thing with San Diego is for people who want to leave the Bay Area, SD housing is insanely cheap for what you get so for people who didn’t hit the IPO lottery, SD will probably be considered a place to settle to actually “own” a home. The place in the bay area that I almost purchased has doubled in value since…insane.
May 8, 2015 at 6:10 PM #786019Participanthttp://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/apa/5007505824.html
Even if you rent, you can find a decent place within walking distance to a beautiful beach for a reasonable price in SD. Try that trick in SF Bay Area.
May 8, 2015 at 7:49 PM #786025bearishgurl
Participant[quote=spdrun]http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/apa/5007505824.html
Even if you rent, you can find a decent place within walking distance to a beautiful beach for a reasonable price in SD. Try that trick in SF Bay Area.[/quote]
Nice unit spdrun.
The bay area doesn’t have beaches which are like So Cal’s. They have narrower beaches or a “coastline” usually with a dirt or pavement hiking path. Not only is most of the coastline too rugged from SC County northwards, the water is much too cold there and the wind is pretty high most of the year. Parts of the coast are actually inaccessible.
There are many, many reasons why life can be fantastic living in the SF Bay area but going to hang out at the beach all day in a swimsuit to play volleyball and have a bonfire later is not one of them.
May 8, 2015 at 7:52 PM #786026ParticipantColumbus Day to Veteran’s Day (Oct-Nov) is traditionally the warmest time of year in SF. It’s always crawling with tourists on Veteran’s Day weekend.
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