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November 19, 2009 at 6:26 PM #485341November 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM #485356EugeneParticipant
You should be able to open a yuan-denominated checking account at Everbank as long as you’re okay with 0% interest rate.
Other than that, there’s not much you can do. Chinese currency market is under tight control by the government and opportunities for direct investment are very limited. (If it weren’t, it would’ve been much harder for them to keep the yuan so blatantly overvalued.) Even if you look at holdings of emerging market bond mutual funds – you’ll see Brazil and Russia and Venezuela and all sorts of exotic countries, but China is notably absent. I’m not sure how Everbank got around the restriction, but it clearly wasn’t easy.
November 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM #485125EugeneParticipantYou should be able to open a yuan-denominated checking account at Everbank as long as you’re okay with 0% interest rate.
Other than that, there’s not much you can do. Chinese currency market is under tight control by the government and opportunities for direct investment are very limited. (If it weren’t, it would’ve been much harder for them to keep the yuan so blatantly overvalued.) Even if you look at holdings of emerging market bond mutual funds – you’ll see Brazil and Russia and Venezuela and all sorts of exotic countries, but China is notably absent. I’m not sure how Everbank got around the restriction, but it clearly wasn’t easy.
November 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM #484500EugeneParticipantYou should be able to open a yuan-denominated checking account at Everbank as long as you’re okay with 0% interest rate.
Other than that, there’s not much you can do. Chinese currency market is under tight control by the government and opportunities for direct investment are very limited. (If it weren’t, it would’ve been much harder for them to keep the yuan so blatantly overvalued.) Even if you look at holdings of emerging market bond mutual funds – you’ll see Brazil and Russia and Venezuela and all sorts of exotic countries, but China is notably absent. I’m not sure how Everbank got around the restriction, but it clearly wasn’t easy.
November 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM #485041EugeneParticipantYou should be able to open a yuan-denominated checking account at Everbank as long as you’re okay with 0% interest rate.
Other than that, there’s not much you can do. Chinese currency market is under tight control by the government and opportunities for direct investment are very limited. (If it weren’t, it would’ve been much harder for them to keep the yuan so blatantly overvalued.) Even if you look at holdings of emerging market bond mutual funds – you’ll see Brazil and Russia and Venezuela and all sorts of exotic countries, but China is notably absent. I’m not sure how Everbank got around the restriction, but it clearly wasn’t easy.
November 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM #484668EugeneParticipantYou should be able to open a yuan-denominated checking account at Everbank as long as you’re okay with 0% interest rate.
Other than that, there’s not much you can do. Chinese currency market is under tight control by the government and opportunities for direct investment are very limited. (If it weren’t, it would’ve been much harder for them to keep the yuan so blatantly overvalued.) Even if you look at holdings of emerging market bond mutual funds – you’ll see Brazil and Russia and Venezuela and all sorts of exotic countries, but China is notably absent. I’m not sure how Everbank got around the restriction, but it clearly wasn’t easy.
November 20, 2009 at 1:58 AM #484570sd_ownerParticipantHolding Yuan may not be a smart idea, as its real interest rate has been negative for quite many years. A better way is to buy some reasonably priced Chinese assets: real estate or stocks. In that way, you can protect your Yuan holdings against inflation.
I think many institutions are already doing this.
November 20, 2009 at 1:58 AM #484739sd_ownerParticipantHolding Yuan may not be a smart idea, as its real interest rate has been negative for quite many years. A better way is to buy some reasonably priced Chinese assets: real estate or stocks. In that way, you can protect your Yuan holdings against inflation.
I think many institutions are already doing this.
November 20, 2009 at 1:58 AM #485194sd_ownerParticipantHolding Yuan may not be a smart idea, as its real interest rate has been negative for quite many years. A better way is to buy some reasonably priced Chinese assets: real estate or stocks. In that way, you can protect your Yuan holdings against inflation.
I think many institutions are already doing this.
November 20, 2009 at 1:58 AM #485109sd_ownerParticipantHolding Yuan may not be a smart idea, as its real interest rate has been negative for quite many years. A better way is to buy some reasonably priced Chinese assets: real estate or stocks. In that way, you can protect your Yuan holdings against inflation.
I think many institutions are already doing this.
November 20, 2009 at 1:58 AM #485426sd_ownerParticipantHolding Yuan may not be a smart idea, as its real interest rate has been negative for quite many years. A better way is to buy some reasonably priced Chinese assets: real estate or stocks. In that way, you can protect your Yuan holdings against inflation.
I think many institutions are already doing this.
November 20, 2009 at 8:27 AM #485441ucodegenParticipantOk, so if China is investing in US stocks and treasuries why would the secretary of state be upset with them?
Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don’t-
I’ve come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
cut a little swathe and lead the people on. Best Little Whorehouse in TexasWhat.. you are expecting them to tell the truth all of a sudden? It is easier to divert attention and blame someone else..
The truth in the matter is a little more complicated… It is hard for any foreigner to invest in the Chinese markets, but it is quite easy for the Chinese to invest in the US markets.
The Chinese can sell to the US and then use that money to buy the means of production in the US. If the US sells to the Chinese, it is harder to buy the means of Chinese production (much is still state owned.. and run, and that which isn’t.. requires that it still be in Chinese control).Also if their economy is taking off, I assume they have inflation,why would they buy US treasuries.
To hold the exchange rate down in their favor. You need a ‘reverse trade’ to offset the trade imbalance. The Chinese initially were buying treasuries only.. but the return on them is pretty poor so they have started to resort to buying stock & bonds in US companies.
Just read that they untied their currency from the dollar today, will that cause us inflation?
Where is the ref on them ‘untying’ their currency?
I had no idea that we import more from Canada than from China,interesting!
Umm.. don’t know where you get your figures… try these..
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/2009/09/deficit.htmlIf you are referring to this:
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/2009/09/balance.html
read the fine print at the top.. “The values given are for Imports and Exports added together.”November 20, 2009 at 8:27 AM #484585ucodegenParticipantOk, so if China is investing in US stocks and treasuries why would the secretary of state be upset with them?
Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don’t-
I’ve come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
cut a little swathe and lead the people on. Best Little Whorehouse in TexasWhat.. you are expecting them to tell the truth all of a sudden? It is easier to divert attention and blame someone else..
The truth in the matter is a little more complicated… It is hard for any foreigner to invest in the Chinese markets, but it is quite easy for the Chinese to invest in the US markets.
The Chinese can sell to the US and then use that money to buy the means of production in the US. If the US sells to the Chinese, it is harder to buy the means of Chinese production (much is still state owned.. and run, and that which isn’t.. requires that it still be in Chinese control).Also if their economy is taking off, I assume they have inflation,why would they buy US treasuries.
To hold the exchange rate down in their favor. You need a ‘reverse trade’ to offset the trade imbalance. The Chinese initially were buying treasuries only.. but the return on them is pretty poor so they have started to resort to buying stock & bonds in US companies.
Just read that they untied their currency from the dollar today, will that cause us inflation?
Where is the ref on them ‘untying’ their currency?
I had no idea that we import more from Canada than from China,interesting!
Umm.. don’t know where you get your figures… try these..
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/2009/09/deficit.htmlIf you are referring to this:
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/2009/09/balance.html
read the fine print at the top.. “The values given are for Imports and Exports added together.”November 20, 2009 at 8:27 AM #485209ucodegenParticipantOk, so if China is investing in US stocks and treasuries why would the secretary of state be upset with them?
Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don’t-
I’ve come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
cut a little swathe and lead the people on. Best Little Whorehouse in TexasWhat.. you are expecting them to tell the truth all of a sudden? It is easier to divert attention and blame someone else..
The truth in the matter is a little more complicated… It is hard for any foreigner to invest in the Chinese markets, but it is quite easy for the Chinese to invest in the US markets.
The Chinese can sell to the US and then use that money to buy the means of production in the US. If the US sells to the Chinese, it is harder to buy the means of Chinese production (much is still state owned.. and run, and that which isn’t.. requires that it still be in Chinese control).Also if their economy is taking off, I assume they have inflation,why would they buy US treasuries.
To hold the exchange rate down in their favor. You need a ‘reverse trade’ to offset the trade imbalance. The Chinese initially were buying treasuries only.. but the return on them is pretty poor so they have started to resort to buying stock & bonds in US companies.
Just read that they untied their currency from the dollar today, will that cause us inflation?
Where is the ref on them ‘untying’ their currency?
I had no idea that we import more from Canada than from China,interesting!
Umm.. don’t know where you get your figures… try these..
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/2009/09/deficit.htmlIf you are referring to this:
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/2009/09/balance.html
read the fine print at the top.. “The values given are for Imports and Exports added together.”November 20, 2009 at 8:27 AM #484753ucodegenParticipantOk, so if China is investing in US stocks and treasuries why would the secretary of state be upset with them?
Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don’t-
I’ve come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
cut a little swathe and lead the people on. Best Little Whorehouse in TexasWhat.. you are expecting them to tell the truth all of a sudden? It is easier to divert attention and blame someone else..
The truth in the matter is a little more complicated… It is hard for any foreigner to invest in the Chinese markets, but it is quite easy for the Chinese to invest in the US markets.
The Chinese can sell to the US and then use that money to buy the means of production in the US. If the US sells to the Chinese, it is harder to buy the means of Chinese production (much is still state owned.. and run, and that which isn’t.. requires that it still be in Chinese control).Also if their economy is taking off, I assume they have inflation,why would they buy US treasuries.
To hold the exchange rate down in their favor. You need a ‘reverse trade’ to offset the trade imbalance. The Chinese initially were buying treasuries only.. but the return on them is pretty poor so they have started to resort to buying stock & bonds in US companies.
Just read that they untied their currency from the dollar today, will that cause us inflation?
Where is the ref on them ‘untying’ their currency?
I had no idea that we import more from Canada than from China,interesting!
Umm.. don’t know where you get your figures… try these..
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/2009/09/deficit.htmlIf you are referring to this:
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/top/dst/2009/09/balance.html
read the fine print at the top.. “The values given are for Imports and Exports added together.” -
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