Can’t afford Carmel Valley? No problem….

[Anonymous]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Seems to me camel valley are not just about good schools with high API like in any other part of the country.
It’s next to a UC, the tech/biotech golden triangle. You have kids whose parents work in competitive fields that require intelligence. Great diversity in a pleasant, upscale, beach close environment. Easy to understand the premium.[/quote]

What is the “great diversity” you speak of? I bet you could count on one hand the number of black or Hispanic kids that go to Carmel Valley schools.

[flyer]

FIH, when I said “our kids,” I meant our own kids and their friends in the sample group I mentioned regarding the 50% success rate.

Our own kids and many of our friends kids have achieved the goals they
set–many have not–so imo, no academic system comes with an iron-clad guarantee of success in life, and that was my point. In the final analysis, All each of us can do is try to make sure our own kids get where they want to be.

Also, definitely agree living where you want to live is key for many reasons. We’re very happy with the choices we’ve made, and I hope others are as well.

[an]

[quote=deadzone][quote=FlyerInHi]Seems to me camel valley are not just about good schools with high API like in any other part of the country.
It’s next to a UC, the tech/biotech golden triangle. You have kids whose parents work in competitive fields that require intelligence. Great diversity in a pleasant, upscale, beach close environment. Easy to understand the premium.[/quote]

What is the “great diversity” you speak of? I bet you could count on one hand the number of black or Hispanic kids that go to Carmel Valley schools.[/quote]LoL, where you stand depends on where you sit. Here’s the student statistic for Torrey Pines HS: http://api.cde.ca.gov/Acnt2014/apiavgSch.aspx?allcds=37683463730033

[Anonymous]

So 85% of the student body is white or Asian and 87% of Parents have 4 year degree or higher. Sounds like a great school for high achievers, but diverse it is not.

[andymajumder]

Asians include folks of various different ethnic background , chinese, korean, indian, vietnamese etc. that certainly makes it quite diverse. Diversity doesn’t necessarily mean higher % of hispanic & blacks.

[flyer]

I think it would be far more revealing to see a breakdown of the stats concerning the percentage of students in various colleges who actually achieve the goals they set after graduation. As I mentioned in my small sample, we’re seeing about 50% among our friends and acquaintances who have kids in that age group.

[scaredyclassic]

If you vote for Pedro he will make all of your dreams come true.

[joec]

The power of the stay at home mom or dad is that they can shuffle them to all the activities to keep them ahead of everyone else.

I know plenty of Indian families who send their kids to Kumon, Mathnasium, physical sport activities, musical instruments, etc etc etc…

Also, having a stay at home mom means more time to read with the child, supervising their every move, etc…

When you have your kids in a day care or after school thing, it’s never as great since you don’t have that 1 on 1 attention. This is where the higher single income person who can afford to have a spouse stay home allows them to use time to help their kids get further.

International competition for work is a lot tougher since they are simply more hungry. I was watching Bloomberg and they interviewed some lady who was some VC in some business startup funding thing and the thing she hated the most is all the “entitled” workers she sees compared to the international hungry worker.

I think ultra high level success (billions, president of the US, head of corporations…) depends on connections mostly. Doesn’t mean you can’t do well in life, but the networking connections make it easier to get hired, most anything.

[Coronita]

Lol. diversity…..I’m all for diversity, as a positive influence…

But if I had to choose between having my kid surrounded by other kids/parents that want to be high achieving at the cost of diversity versus being surrounded by a bunch of more “diverse” parents/kids that don’t give a hoot… I think I’ll take the group of kids/parents that want to be high achieving at the sacrifice of “diversity” anyday. That’s school district agnostic so long as there are enough parents/kids in that district that want the same thing.

[Coronita]

[quote=joec]The power of the stay at home mom or dad is that they can shuffle them to all the activities to keep them ahead of everyone else.

I know plenty of Indian families who send their kids to Kumon, Mathnasium, physical sport activities, musical instruments, etc etc etc…

Also, having a stay at home mom means more time to read with the child, supervising their every move, etc…

When you have your kids in a day care or after school thing, it’s never as great since you don’t have that 1 on 1 attention. This is where the higher single income person who can afford to have a spouse stay home allows them to use time to help their kids get further.

International competition for work is a lot tougher since they are simply more hungry. I was watching Bloomberg and they interviewed some lady who was some VC in some business startup funding thing and the thing she hated the most is all the “entitled” workers she sees compared to the international hungry worker.

I think ultra high level success (billions, president of the US, head of corporations…) depends on connections mostly. Doesn’t mean you can’t do well in life, but the networking connections make it easier to get hired, most anything.[/quote]

I don’t know. I think there’s a balancing act. I’ve seen parents that push their kids all the time, and it ends up backfiring. Then again, I see kids that have the aptitude and just need to taught to “care” and then they end up doing it themselves.

The heavy handed approach didn’t work with me. Being surrounded by other high achievers to the point that it self motivated me, did…

The biggest risk of having minimal parental involvement (because both parents work too much and don’t spend enough time with kid(s)) is that you end up outsourcing values, work ethics to someone else, for better or worse…since you aren’t spending enough time doing that job…

[FlyerInHi]

Joec, I get what you say about connections.

But in the age of big data, objectives measures of qualifications are important. People are a lot more likely to scrutinize leadership and ask questions about how someone got there.

So even with connections, you have to do work. It’s not like you can sit back, work your network and get everything handed to you. Maybe if you founded your own company or are a famous actor.

Hell, even organized crime needs good IT skills these days. You can’t be a Sicilian godfather with a grade school education anymore.

[an]

[quote=flu]Lol. diversity…..I’m all for diversity, as a positive influence…

But if I had to choose between having my kid surrounded by other kids/parents that want to be high achieving at the cost of diversity versus being surrounded by a bunch of more “diverse” parents/kids that don’t give a hoot… I think I’ll take the group of kids/parents that want to be high achieving at the sacrifice of “diversity” anyday. That’s school district agnostic so long as there are enough parents/kids in that district that want the same thing.[/quote] agree 100%. Diversity is overrated.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=deadzone]

What is the “great diversity” you speak of? I bet you could count on one hand the number of black or Hispanic kids that go to Carmel Valley schools.[/quote]

My niece goes to a school in la Jolla. I’ve been to some fund raising events.
The area is very diverse internationally. The university and tech businesses attract people from all around the world.

I bet there are more languages spoken in la jolla and Carmel valley than in santee or Chula Vista.

The white, black, Hispanic conversation is last century. Still very important because of income inequality and policy. But not really relevant on an individual family basis as far as exposing kids to a global perspective, and help them succeed in a global economy.

[Coronita]

[quote=FlyerInHi]

My niece goes to a school in la Jolla. I’ve been to some fund raising events.
The area is very diverse internationally. The university and tech businesses attract people from all around the world.

I bet there are more languages spoken in la jolla and Carmel valley than in santee or Chula Vista.

The white, black, Hispanic conversation is last century. Still very important because of income inequality and policy. But not really relevant on an individual family basis as far as exposing kids to a global perspective, and help them succeed in a global economy.[/quote]

Holy shit, Brian..I can’t believe I’m actually agreeing with you on something…

[Coronita]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]Lol. diversity…..I’m all for diversity, as a positive influence…

But if I had to choose between having my kid surrounded by other kids/parents that want to be high achieving at the cost of diversity versus being surrounded by a bunch of more “diverse” parents/kids that don’t give a hoot… I think I’ll take the group of kids/parents that want to be high achieving at the sacrifice of “diversity” anyday. That’s school district agnostic so long as there are enough parents/kids in that district that want the same thing.[/quote] agree 100%. Diversity is overrated.[/quote]

I’m sick and tired of hearing about diversity. I’m supportive of diversity, all else being equal. But that’s just it…These days, the “all else being equal” part seems to be getting dropped frequently.

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