Can’t afford Carmel Valley? No problem….

[scaredyclassic]

API wise I don’t think any of these fancy sd. schools are more than a few points better than Temecula ca.’s great oak hs.

It seems like temecula would be filled with a bunch of redneck morons if you didnt know better but the students here are serious hardcore academics and kick as athletes.

[flyer]

It’s true that we can all spew API and other stats all day long to give us some indication of “predictable success,” but, in the end, the only answer that counts is how well the kids do when they get out in the real world.

[an]

I’d love to see stats of 7+ figure net worth and the HS they graduated from. I’d also love to see divorce rates and suicide rates too.

[flyer]

That would be interesting, AN. I’m sure it’s available somewhere. Thankfully, we all only have to worry about our own kids success and happiness.

[scaredyclassic]

hs is not preparatory for life

[njtosd]

[quote=AN]I’d love to see stats of 7+ figure net worth and the HS they graduated from. I’d also love to see divorce rates and suicide rates too.[/quote]

Probably much more correlated to parental achievements and outcomes than those of high school classmates. I am a firm believer in the power of genetics. Hard to tease out, though, as successful parents will often raise their children in above average school districts. Freakonomics has a couple of great articles that relate to this point. For example, academic achievement is correlated to the number of books in a home …..even if the children living there don’t read the books. Reason: Smart parents tend to buy more books and also tend to have smart kids. I am beginning to understand where calvin’s idea of predestination came from (although i don’t subscribe to the philosophy). Also – there was a finding that kids who watched “Baby Einstein” videos ended up achieving less well academically than those who didn’t watch. I have my theories about that one – ie low achieving parents more interested in pushing smart baby toys on their children. Nature seems to trump nurture in many instances ….

[an]

[quote=njtosd]Probably much more correlated to parental achievements and outcomes than those of high school classmates. I am a firm believer in the power of genetics. Hard to tease out, though, as successful parents will often raise their children in above average school districts. Freakonomics has a couple of great articles that relate to this point. For example, academic achievement is correlated to the number of books in a home …..even if the children living there don’t read the books. Reason: Smart parents tend to buy more books and also tend to have smart kids. I am beginning to understand where calvin’s idea of predestination came from (although i don’t subscribe to the philosophy). Also – there was a finding that kids who watched “Baby Einstein” videos ended up achieving less well academically than those who didn’t watch. I have my theories about that one – ie low achieving parents more interested in pushing smart baby toys on their children. Nature seems to trump nurture in many instances ….[/quote]I agree with everything you said. But I don’t have data to back it up, which is why I would love to see these kind of data. I’m a big believer of nature trump nurture too, but I do think nurture does bring out the best in what nature allow.
I’m wondering, assuming the same parents and the same kids, would the kids perform best in Carmel Valley with both parents working long hours or in much less expensive areas and have one parent stay at home and be extremely involved in the children’s education. I’m sure there no data to back up either side, but would be an interesting study.

[FlyerInHi]

I feel like scaredy’s whole family is of superior intellect.
Scaredy, don’t you have lots of books in piles eveywhere?

[flyer]

Agree these facets of life are very important. My wife flooded our home with books, musical instruments, easels, and every other creative option she could imagine, and our kids loved it. Balancing these aspects of life with all of the many others seemed to really enhance all of our lives.

Concerning the question of how children are effected by having one parent at home vs. both parents working, I haven’t researched the stats, but when our kids were growing up in CV, most of the moms in our neighborhood stayed at home with their kids.

Although most were educated professionals, these women chose to either work from home or not work at all. Their husbands were MD’s, college prof’s, newscasters, CPA’s, attorneys, pilots, business owners, sports figures etc. We pretty much found the same to be true when we moved to RSF.

As far as the success rate of our kids, I would have to say about 50% achieved the goals they set when they entered college. I really don’t know how revealing such a small sample is, but it is interesting.

[scaredyclassic]

By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you’ll become happy; if you get a bad one, you’ll become a philosopher.
Socrates.

by all means, attempt to succeed in life. If it works, you’ll be happy. if you fail, you’ll become a philosopher.

scaredy,

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=svelte]I have no desire to live in Carmel Valley. It’s another one of those places I just don’t understand.[/quote]

Fairly close to the ocean. Good schools. Easy access to Sorrento Valley, where I work.

That said, the bang for the buck isn’t great, and I doubt we’ll ever actually live there. I can see the appeal, just can’t justify the price premium for that appeal.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flyer]
As far as the success rate of our kids, I would have to say about 50% achieved the goals they set when they entered college. I really don’t know how revealing such a small sample is, but it is interesting.[/quote]

What is the success rates of your kids friends? You said you’ve seen people leave San Diego in search of opportunities. I’m assuming they didn’t want to leave but left.
I agree with you that living where you want to live is key. What is the percentage who can do that?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you’ll become happy; if you get a bad one, you’ll become a philosopher.
Socrates.

by all means, attempt to succeed in life. If it works, you’ll be happy. if you fail, you’ll become a philosopher.

scaredy,[/quote]

Becoming a philosopher is great success.

I’m not a Buddhist but in their philosophy there are different stages of zen. Everyone can achieve the ultimate.

[Anonymous]

[quote=poorgradstudent][quote=svelte]I have no desire to live in Carmel Valley. It’s another one of those places I just don’t understand.[/quote]

Fairly close to the ocean. Good schools. Easy access to Sorrento Valley, where I work.

That said, the bang for the buck isn’t great, and I doubt we’ll ever actually live there. I can see the appeal, just can’t justify the price premium for that appeal.[/quote]

For the price I don’t get it either. For those prices, could live in parts of La Jolla or other areas close to the ocean with a little more character. On the other hand, if you are only worried about schools (which is overrated in my opinion), you could live in a place like Scripps Ranch which is nice but also has no personality.

By the way, agree with other posters that the test scores of these schools is a bit overrated. Number one factor in child’s academic success by far is genetics. Second place in my opinion is parental involvement. Choice of school is distant third.

[FlyerInHi]

Seems to me camel valley are not just about good schools with high API like in any other part of the country.
It’s next to a UC, the tech/biotech golden triangle. You have kids whose parents work in competitive fields that require intelligence. Great diversity in a pleasant, upscale, beach close environment. Easy to understand the premium.

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