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August 21, 2011 at 1:35 AM #723276August 21, 2011 at 1:56 AM #722071
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Participant[quote=briansd1]Is a candidate serious if he/she can’t win?
Intellectually serious? Or can seriously win?[/quote]
IMHO, in order for a Republican to win, s/he would have to appeal to Independents and centrist Democrats. I don’t at all see Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry winning these voters over. Even though many of us are totally disappointed with Obama’s actions thus far, we’d vote for him again if the only other option was a Bachmann/Perry type.
So far, I’d definitely consider Roemer, and might even be tempted to consider Ron Paul, if only because I DO believe he has integrity, and because he does not appear to be one of the “bought” candidates.
The fact that he was so heavily censored back in 2007 is what prompted me to donate to him back then, even though I didn’t agree with many/most of his beliefs (though I agree with him about bringing our military home and think he makes many good points about the Fed’s monetary policies).
For those who didn’t know:
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Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:01:52 AM by BGHater
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The chairman of the Michigan Republican Party said Wednesday that he will try to bar Ron Paul from future GOP presidential debates because of remarks the Texas congressman made that suggested the Sept. 11 attacks were the fault of U.S. foreign policy.
Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis said he will circulate a petition among Republican National Committee members to ban Paul from more debates. At a GOP candidates’ debate Tuesday night, Paul drew attacks from all sides, most forcefully from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he linked the terror attacks to U.S. bombings.
“Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years,” Paul said.
Anuzis called the comments “off the wall and out of whack.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835140/posts
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By NWV News Director, Jim Kouri
Posted 1:00 AM Eastern
September 8, 2008
© NewsWithViews.comWhile millions of Americans watched the 2008 Republican Convention on television, the well-staged event wasn’t all peaceful and enthusiastic, according to several delegates attending the St. Paul, Minnesota event.
Several delegates — who are avowed Ron Paul supporters — claim they were treated shabbily at best, harshly at worst.
“While almost every other GOP contender for president was permitted to speak at the convention, Ron Paul was not. The word was that Paul was invited, with the natural caveat that he (like the other speakers) endorse McCain for president, which Paul was reportedly unwilling to do,” said a McCain delegate from West Virginia.
August 21, 2011 at 1:56 AM #722163Participant[quote=briansd1]Is a candidate serious if he/she can’t win?
Intellectually serious? Or can seriously win?[/quote]
IMHO, in order for a Republican to win, s/he would have to appeal to Independents and centrist Democrats. I don’t at all see Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry winning these voters over. Even though many of us are totally disappointed with Obama’s actions thus far, we’d vote for him again if the only other option was a Bachmann/Perry type.
So far, I’d definitely consider Roemer, and might even be tempted to consider Ron Paul, if only because I DO believe he has integrity, and because he does not appear to be one of the “bought” candidates.
The fact that he was so heavily censored back in 2007 is what prompted me to donate to him back then, even though I didn’t agree with many/most of his beliefs (though I agree with him about bringing our military home and think he makes many good points about the Fed’s monetary policies).
For those who didn’t know:
…………..
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:01:52 AM by BGHater
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The chairman of the Michigan Republican Party said Wednesday that he will try to bar Ron Paul from future GOP presidential debates because of remarks the Texas congressman made that suggested the Sept. 11 attacks were the fault of U.S. foreign policy.
Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis said he will circulate a petition among Republican National Committee members to ban Paul from more debates. At a GOP candidates’ debate Tuesday night, Paul drew attacks from all sides, most forcefully from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he linked the terror attacks to U.S. bombings.
“Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years,” Paul said.
Anuzis called the comments “off the wall and out of whack.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835140/posts
……………
By NWV News Director, Jim Kouri
Posted 1:00 AM Eastern
September 8, 2008
© NewsWithViews.comWhile millions of Americans watched the 2008 Republican Convention on television, the well-staged event wasn’t all peaceful and enthusiastic, according to several delegates attending the St. Paul, Minnesota event.
Several delegates — who are avowed Ron Paul supporters — claim they were treated shabbily at best, harshly at worst.
“While almost every other GOP contender for president was permitted to speak at the convention, Ron Paul was not. The word was that Paul was invited, with the natural caveat that he (like the other speakers) endorse McCain for president, which Paul was reportedly unwilling to do,” said a McCain delegate from West Virginia.
August 21, 2011 at 1:56 AM #722764Participant[quote=briansd1]Is a candidate serious if he/she can’t win?
Intellectually serious? Or can seriously win?[/quote]
IMHO, in order for a Republican to win, s/he would have to appeal to Independents and centrist Democrats. I don’t at all see Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry winning these voters over. Even though many of us are totally disappointed with Obama’s actions thus far, we’d vote for him again if the only other option was a Bachmann/Perry type.
So far, I’d definitely consider Roemer, and might even be tempted to consider Ron Paul, if only because I DO believe he has integrity, and because he does not appear to be one of the “bought” candidates.
The fact that he was so heavily censored back in 2007 is what prompted me to donate to him back then, even though I didn’t agree with many/most of his beliefs (though I agree with him about bringing our military home and think he makes many good points about the Fed’s monetary policies).
For those who didn’t know:
…………..
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:01:52 AM by BGHater
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The chairman of the Michigan Republican Party said Wednesday that he will try to bar Ron Paul from future GOP presidential debates because of remarks the Texas congressman made that suggested the Sept. 11 attacks were the fault of U.S. foreign policy.
Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis said he will circulate a petition among Republican National Committee members to ban Paul from more debates. At a GOP candidates’ debate Tuesday night, Paul drew attacks from all sides, most forcefully from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he linked the terror attacks to U.S. bombings.
“Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years,” Paul said.
Anuzis called the comments “off the wall and out of whack.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835140/posts
……………
By NWV News Director, Jim Kouri
Posted 1:00 AM Eastern
September 8, 2008
© NewsWithViews.comWhile millions of Americans watched the 2008 Republican Convention on television, the well-staged event wasn’t all peaceful and enthusiastic, according to several delegates attending the St. Paul, Minnesota event.
Several delegates — who are avowed Ron Paul supporters — claim they were treated shabbily at best, harshly at worst.
“While almost every other GOP contender for president was permitted to speak at the convention, Ron Paul was not. The word was that Paul was invited, with the natural caveat that he (like the other speakers) endorse McCain for president, which Paul was reportedly unwilling to do,” said a McCain delegate from West Virginia.
August 21, 2011 at 1:56 AM #722922Participant[quote=briansd1]Is a candidate serious if he/she can’t win?
Intellectually serious? Or can seriously win?[/quote]
IMHO, in order for a Republican to win, s/he would have to appeal to Independents and centrist Democrats. I don’t at all see Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry winning these voters over. Even though many of us are totally disappointed with Obama’s actions thus far, we’d vote for him again if the only other option was a Bachmann/Perry type.
So far, I’d definitely consider Roemer, and might even be tempted to consider Ron Paul, if only because I DO believe he has integrity, and because he does not appear to be one of the “bought” candidates.
The fact that he was so heavily censored back in 2007 is what prompted me to donate to him back then, even though I didn’t agree with many/most of his beliefs (though I agree with him about bringing our military home and think he makes many good points about the Fed’s monetary policies).
For those who didn’t know:
…………..
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:01:52 AM by BGHater
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The chairman of the Michigan Republican Party said Wednesday that he will try to bar Ron Paul from future GOP presidential debates because of remarks the Texas congressman made that suggested the Sept. 11 attacks were the fault of U.S. foreign policy.
Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis said he will circulate a petition among Republican National Committee members to ban Paul from more debates. At a GOP candidates’ debate Tuesday night, Paul drew attacks from all sides, most forcefully from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he linked the terror attacks to U.S. bombings.
“Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years,” Paul said.
Anuzis called the comments “off the wall and out of whack.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835140/posts
……………
By NWV News Director, Jim Kouri
Posted 1:00 AM Eastern
September 8, 2008
© NewsWithViews.comWhile millions of Americans watched the 2008 Republican Convention on television, the well-staged event wasn’t all peaceful and enthusiastic, according to several delegates attending the St. Paul, Minnesota event.
Several delegates — who are avowed Ron Paul supporters — claim they were treated shabbily at best, harshly at worst.
“While almost every other GOP contender for president was permitted to speak at the convention, Ron Paul was not. The word was that Paul was invited, with the natural caveat that he (like the other speakers) endorse McCain for president, which Paul was reportedly unwilling to do,” said a McCain delegate from West Virginia.
August 21, 2011 at 1:56 AM #723281Participant[quote=briansd1]Is a candidate serious if he/she can’t win?
Intellectually serious? Or can seriously win?[/quote]
IMHO, in order for a Republican to win, s/he would have to appeal to Independents and centrist Democrats. I don’t at all see Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry winning these voters over. Even though many of us are totally disappointed with Obama’s actions thus far, we’d vote for him again if the only other option was a Bachmann/Perry type.
So far, I’d definitely consider Roemer, and might even be tempted to consider Ron Paul, if only because I DO believe he has integrity, and because he does not appear to be one of the “bought” candidates.
The fact that he was so heavily censored back in 2007 is what prompted me to donate to him back then, even though I didn’t agree with many/most of his beliefs (though I agree with him about bringing our military home and think he makes many good points about the Fed’s monetary policies).
For those who didn’t know:
…………..
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:01:52 AM by BGHater
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The chairman of the Michigan Republican Party said Wednesday that he will try to bar Ron Paul from future GOP presidential debates because of remarks the Texas congressman made that suggested the Sept. 11 attacks were the fault of U.S. foreign policy.
Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis said he will circulate a petition among Republican National Committee members to ban Paul from more debates. At a GOP candidates’ debate Tuesday night, Paul drew attacks from all sides, most forcefully from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he linked the terror attacks to U.S. bombings.
“Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years,” Paul said.
Anuzis called the comments “off the wall and out of whack.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835140/posts
……………
By NWV News Director, Jim Kouri
Posted 1:00 AM Eastern
September 8, 2008
© NewsWithViews.comWhile millions of Americans watched the 2008 Republican Convention on television, the well-staged event wasn’t all peaceful and enthusiastic, according to several delegates attending the St. Paul, Minnesota event.
Several delegates — who are avowed Ron Paul supporters — claim they were treated shabbily at best, harshly at worst.
“While almost every other GOP contender for president was permitted to speak at the convention, Ron Paul was not. The word was that Paul was invited, with the natural caveat that he (like the other speakers) endorse McCain for president, which Paul was reportedly unwilling to do,” said a McCain delegate from West Virginia.
August 21, 2011 at 2:39 AM #722116ParticipantOkay, this is too funny.
After writing the above post about Ron Paul being censored in 2007, I get this e-mail from RP:
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We thought it was bad when the media tried to ignore us to keep our message under wraps. But it just got worse.
Earlier this evening, a cyberattack was launched on our website – shutting us down and robbing us of the last few hours of our money bomb.
Boy, the establishment is more desperate than I thought. They don’t even want our message to get out ON OUR OWN WEBSITE now!
————–
edit:
AND this one was in the inbox, which preceded the one just above:
If you weren’t already convinced the media and their pals in the national political establishment were conspiring against Ron Paul this past week after his historic showing at the Iowa Straw Poll, then this should do it.
After a total media blackout on all the morning shows last Sunday – several of which had invited Dr. Paul on before they received any hint of how well he would do in Iowa – some were naive enough to think the media might change their plan!
After all, why keep ignoring Dr. Paul’s surging campaign?
Surely, several major national media outlets would come around before this weekend . . . right?
WRONG!
[CAR], if you and I are serious about turning our country around, we’re going to have to break through the national media blackout and get Dr. Paul’s message of liberty out on our own.
That’s why it’s so important you contribute TODAY to Dr. Paul’s Birthday Money Bomb.
August 21, 2011 at 2:39 AM #722208ParticipantOkay, this is too funny.
After writing the above post about Ron Paul being censored in 2007, I get this e-mail from RP:
————-
We thought it was bad when the media tried to ignore us to keep our message under wraps. But it just got worse.
Earlier this evening, a cyberattack was launched on our website – shutting us down and robbing us of the last few hours of our money bomb.
Boy, the establishment is more desperate than I thought. They don’t even want our message to get out ON OUR OWN WEBSITE now!
————–
edit:
AND this one was in the inbox, which preceded the one just above:
If you weren’t already convinced the media and their pals in the national political establishment were conspiring against Ron Paul this past week after his historic showing at the Iowa Straw Poll, then this should do it.
After a total media blackout on all the morning shows last Sunday – several of which had invited Dr. Paul on before they received any hint of how well he would do in Iowa – some were naive enough to think the media might change their plan!
After all, why keep ignoring Dr. Paul’s surging campaign?
Surely, several major national media outlets would come around before this weekend . . . right?
WRONG!
[CAR], if you and I are serious about turning our country around, we’re going to have to break through the national media blackout and get Dr. Paul’s message of liberty out on our own.
That’s why it’s so important you contribute TODAY to Dr. Paul’s Birthday Money Bomb.
August 21, 2011 at 2:39 AM #722809ParticipantOkay, this is too funny.
After writing the above post about Ron Paul being censored in 2007, I get this e-mail from RP:
————-
We thought it was bad when the media tried to ignore us to keep our message under wraps. But it just got worse.
Earlier this evening, a cyberattack was launched on our website – shutting us down and robbing us of the last few hours of our money bomb.
Boy, the establishment is more desperate than I thought. They don’t even want our message to get out ON OUR OWN WEBSITE now!
————–
edit:
AND this one was in the inbox, which preceded the one just above:
If you weren’t already convinced the media and their pals in the national political establishment were conspiring against Ron Paul this past week after his historic showing at the Iowa Straw Poll, then this should do it.
After a total media blackout on all the morning shows last Sunday – several of which had invited Dr. Paul on before they received any hint of how well he would do in Iowa – some were naive enough to think the media might change their plan!
After all, why keep ignoring Dr. Paul’s surging campaign?
Surely, several major national media outlets would come around before this weekend . . . right?
WRONG!
[CAR], if you and I are serious about turning our country around, we’re going to have to break through the national media blackout and get Dr. Paul’s message of liberty out on our own.
That’s why it’s so important you contribute TODAY to Dr. Paul’s Birthday Money Bomb.
August 21, 2011 at 2:39 AM #722966ParticipantOkay, this is too funny.
After writing the above post about Ron Paul being censored in 2007, I get this e-mail from RP:
————-
We thought it was bad when the media tried to ignore us to keep our message under wraps. But it just got worse.
Earlier this evening, a cyberattack was launched on our website – shutting us down and robbing us of the last few hours of our money bomb.
Boy, the establishment is more desperate than I thought. They don’t even want our message to get out ON OUR OWN WEBSITE now!
————–
edit:
AND this one was in the inbox, which preceded the one just above:
If you weren’t already convinced the media and their pals in the national political establishment were conspiring against Ron Paul this past week after his historic showing at the Iowa Straw Poll, then this should do it.
After a total media blackout on all the morning shows last Sunday – several of which had invited Dr. Paul on before they received any hint of how well he would do in Iowa – some were naive enough to think the media might change their plan!
After all, why keep ignoring Dr. Paul’s surging campaign?
Surely, several major national media outlets would come around before this weekend . . . right?
WRONG!
[CAR], if you and I are serious about turning our country around, we’re going to have to break through the national media blackout and get Dr. Paul’s message of liberty out on our own.
That’s why it’s so important you contribute TODAY to Dr. Paul’s Birthday Money Bomb.
August 21, 2011 at 2:39 AM #723325ParticipantOkay, this is too funny.
After writing the above post about Ron Paul being censored in 2007, I get this e-mail from RP:
————-
We thought it was bad when the media tried to ignore us to keep our message under wraps. But it just got worse.
Earlier this evening, a cyberattack was launched on our website – shutting us down and robbing us of the last few hours of our money bomb.
Boy, the establishment is more desperate than I thought. They don’t even want our message to get out ON OUR OWN WEBSITE now!
————–
edit:
AND this one was in the inbox, which preceded the one just above:
If you weren’t already convinced the media and their pals in the national political establishment were conspiring against Ron Paul this past week after his historic showing at the Iowa Straw Poll, then this should do it.
After a total media blackout on all the morning shows last Sunday – several of which had invited Dr. Paul on before they received any hint of how well he would do in Iowa – some were naive enough to think the media might change their plan!
After all, why keep ignoring Dr. Paul’s surging campaign?
Surely, several major national media outlets would come around before this weekend . . . right?
WRONG!
[CAR], if you and I are serious about turning our country around, we’re going to have to break through the national media blackout and get Dr. Paul’s message of liberty out on our own.
That’s why it’s so important you contribute TODAY to Dr. Paul’s Birthday Money Bomb.
August 21, 2011 at 7:35 AM #722126bake
ParticipantGlad to see these intelligent comments from my fellow piggs – As a socially liberal fiscally conservative independent who has voted republican more often than democrat, I can’t believe how far right the pubs have gone and the idiots like palin, bachman, trump, perry and cain they support – what the hell has happened to the republican party???!!!
August 21, 2011 at 7:35 AM #722218ParticipantGlad to see these intelligent comments from my fellow piggs – As a socially liberal fiscally conservative independent who has voted republican more often than democrat, I can’t believe how far right the pubs have gone and the idiots like palin, bachman, trump, perry and cain they support – what the hell has happened to the republican party???!!!
August 21, 2011 at 7:35 AM #722819ParticipantGlad to see these intelligent comments from my fellow piggs – As a socially liberal fiscally conservative independent who has voted republican more often than democrat, I can’t believe how far right the pubs have gone and the idiots like palin, bachman, trump, perry and cain they support – what the hell has happened to the republican party???!!!
August 21, 2011 at 7:35 AM #722976ParticipantGlad to see these intelligent comments from my fellow piggs – As a socially liberal fiscally conservative independent who has voted republican more often than democrat, I can’t believe how far right the pubs have gone and the idiots like palin, bachman, trump, perry and cain they support – what the hell has happened to the republican party???!!!
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