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July 3, 2009 at 11:14 PM #425504July 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM #425509anParticipant
[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
After having both, I can say their interior built quality was better but not anymore. In term of reliability, I have to say the Japanese win this one hands down. It’s a no contest when it comes to repair cost outside of warranty too. What do you mean engineered?July 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM #425742anParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
After having both, I can say their interior built quality was better but not anymore. In term of reliability, I have to say the Japanese win this one hands down. It’s a no contest when it comes to repair cost outside of warranty too. What do you mean engineered?July 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM #425578anParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
After having both, I can say their interior built quality was better but not anymore. In term of reliability, I have to say the Japanese win this one hands down. It’s a no contest when it comes to repair cost outside of warranty too. What do you mean engineered?July 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM #424992anParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
After having both, I can say their interior built quality was better but not anymore. In term of reliability, I have to say the Japanese win this one hands down. It’s a no contest when it comes to repair cost outside of warranty too. What do you mean engineered?July 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM #425226anParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
After having both, I can say their interior built quality was better but not anymore. In term of reliability, I have to say the Japanese win this one hands down. It’s a no contest when it comes to repair cost outside of warranty too. What do you mean engineered?July 3, 2009 at 11:28 PM #425588CoronitaParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
You betcha…..
You never ever buy a german car because you want a reliable car.
Historically, the advantages of a German car (aside from some status tooting people) is generally fit and finish is top notch. The interiors are done well, the designs are innovative, and the driving characteristics are good, my opinion…
In modern days, Japanese brands have caught up, and arguably are better in some cases, in that they offer comparable performance and superior reliability to Germans. Hence the luxury arms Infiniti,Lexus, and Acura (*cough* ha ha, ok at least Honda tries)…Still, some specific german cars are still the benchmark, such as the Bimmer 3 and M.
July 3, 2009 at 11:28 PM #425752CoronitaParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
You betcha…..
You never ever buy a german car because you want a reliable car.
Historically, the advantages of a German car (aside from some status tooting people) is generally fit and finish is top notch. The interiors are done well, the designs are innovative, and the driving characteristics are good, my opinion…
In modern days, Japanese brands have caught up, and arguably are better in some cases, in that they offer comparable performance and superior reliability to Germans. Hence the luxury arms Infiniti,Lexus, and Acura (*cough* ha ha, ok at least Honda tries)…Still, some specific german cars are still the benchmark, such as the Bimmer 3 and M.
July 3, 2009 at 11:28 PM #425236CoronitaParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
You betcha…..
You never ever buy a german car because you want a reliable car.
Historically, the advantages of a German car (aside from some status tooting people) is generally fit and finish is top notch. The interiors are done well, the designs are innovative, and the driving characteristics are good, my opinion…
In modern days, Japanese brands have caught up, and arguably are better in some cases, in that they offer comparable performance and superior reliability to Germans. Hence the luxury arms Infiniti,Lexus, and Acura (*cough* ha ha, ok at least Honda tries)…Still, some specific german cars are still the benchmark, such as the Bimmer 3 and M.
July 3, 2009 at 11:28 PM #425519CoronitaParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
You betcha…..
You never ever buy a german car because you want a reliable car.
Historically, the advantages of a German car (aside from some status tooting people) is generally fit and finish is top notch. The interiors are done well, the designs are innovative, and the driving characteristics are good, my opinion…
In modern days, Japanese brands have caught up, and arguably are better in some cases, in that they offer comparable performance and superior reliability to Germans. Hence the luxury arms Infiniti,Lexus, and Acura (*cough* ha ha, ok at least Honda tries)…Still, some specific german cars are still the benchmark, such as the Bimmer 3 and M.
July 3, 2009 at 11:28 PM #425002CoronitaParticipant[quote=sunny88]I always thought that German cars are better engineered and as reliable as Japanese cars. Am I wrong?[/quote]
You betcha…..
You never ever buy a german car because you want a reliable car.
Historically, the advantages of a German car (aside from some status tooting people) is generally fit and finish is top notch. The interiors are done well, the designs are innovative, and the driving characteristics are good, my opinion…
In modern days, Japanese brands have caught up, and arguably are better in some cases, in that they offer comparable performance and superior reliability to Germans. Hence the luxury arms Infiniti,Lexus, and Acura (*cough* ha ha, ok at least Honda tries)…Still, some specific german cars are still the benchmark, such as the Bimmer 3 and M.
July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM #425757CoronitaParticipant[quote=AN]The CC is no near the class of a Camry. Price wise, it’s more of a IS/ES/G/TL price range. I’d pick any of those 4 over the CC any day. Passat is priced much closer to the Camry, but the 2.0L Turbo is priced like a V6 Camry. That’s a pretty big HP difference, I’d personally pick an Accord over a Camry but if you must have the #1 American built car, then the Camry is alright :-).[/quote]
Pricing of CC has cratered…
200hp I-4 CC is like $27k
285hp VR6 CC is like $31kboth pretty well loaded
Camry XLE V6 is like $26k-28k, then Toyota loves to nickel and dime you for every stinking option.
Also, VW throws in free maintanance for 4 years( I know, you’ll need it, heh heh).
Slightly adventurous folks can spend $600 on a ecu upgrade from companies like APR and bump the 2.0T into a 254hp/297 and still get gas mileage that beats V6’s.
However, you do have to deal with VW’s “issues”
July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM #425524CoronitaParticipant[quote=AN]The CC is no near the class of a Camry. Price wise, it’s more of a IS/ES/G/TL price range. I’d pick any of those 4 over the CC any day. Passat is priced much closer to the Camry, but the 2.0L Turbo is priced like a V6 Camry. That’s a pretty big HP difference, I’d personally pick an Accord over a Camry but if you must have the #1 American built car, then the Camry is alright :-).[/quote]
Pricing of CC has cratered…
200hp I-4 CC is like $27k
285hp VR6 CC is like $31kboth pretty well loaded
Camry XLE V6 is like $26k-28k, then Toyota loves to nickel and dime you for every stinking option.
Also, VW throws in free maintanance for 4 years( I know, you’ll need it, heh heh).
Slightly adventurous folks can spend $600 on a ecu upgrade from companies like APR and bump the 2.0T into a 254hp/297 and still get gas mileage that beats V6’s.
However, you do have to deal with VW’s “issues”
July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM #425593CoronitaParticipant[quote=AN]The CC is no near the class of a Camry. Price wise, it’s more of a IS/ES/G/TL price range. I’d pick any of those 4 over the CC any day. Passat is priced much closer to the Camry, but the 2.0L Turbo is priced like a V6 Camry. That’s a pretty big HP difference, I’d personally pick an Accord over a Camry but if you must have the #1 American built car, then the Camry is alright :-).[/quote]
Pricing of CC has cratered…
200hp I-4 CC is like $27k
285hp VR6 CC is like $31kboth pretty well loaded
Camry XLE V6 is like $26k-28k, then Toyota loves to nickel and dime you for every stinking option.
Also, VW throws in free maintanance for 4 years( I know, you’ll need it, heh heh).
Slightly adventurous folks can spend $600 on a ecu upgrade from companies like APR and bump the 2.0T into a 254hp/297 and still get gas mileage that beats V6’s.
However, you do have to deal with VW’s “issues”
July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM #425241CoronitaParticipant[quote=AN]The CC is no near the class of a Camry. Price wise, it’s more of a IS/ES/G/TL price range. I’d pick any of those 4 over the CC any day. Passat is priced much closer to the Camry, but the 2.0L Turbo is priced like a V6 Camry. That’s a pretty big HP difference, I’d personally pick an Accord over a Camry but if you must have the #1 American built car, then the Camry is alright :-).[/quote]
Pricing of CC has cratered…
200hp I-4 CC is like $27k
285hp VR6 CC is like $31kboth pretty well loaded
Camry XLE V6 is like $26k-28k, then Toyota loves to nickel and dime you for every stinking option.
Also, VW throws in free maintanance for 4 years( I know, you’ll need it, heh heh).
Slightly adventurous folks can spend $600 on a ecu upgrade from companies like APR and bump the 2.0T into a 254hp/297 and still get gas mileage that beats V6’s.
However, you do have to deal with VW’s “issues”
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