california tax revolt: attend a TEA PARTY!

[Veritas]

I do not think partypup is gullible any more than TG is a priest. I think the political fabric contains numerous fibers from both Republicans and Democrats, so entertwined together that neither one wants the truth to be known. A third party would be a big mistake. That is how we inherited Clinton. I think what will be best is to find out who did what and let the chips fall where they may. There is a lot of room for improvement all around. Quit looking for the fall guy to blame. George Bush and the straw man arguments are getting old. Weed out the unfit to represent us regardless of the party. We need a fresh start. Don’t think the tea party is about Obama, it is about incompetent government starting with the bailouts under Bush that are continuing under Obama.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte][quote=partypup]
Afx114, in the midst of EVERYTHING that is happening – as we watch Obama incur the biggest deficit in American history and pass the fruits of that deficit to banks (just as Bush began to do with TARP) – how do you possibly come to the conclusion that these protesters are simply angry Republicans? Seriously, do you think that a Democrat should not be fed up with what is happening? I’ve never voted GOP, and if I hadn’t been on a 3-hour feeding and diapering schedule with my son I would have gladly attended a tea party.

If you think this is just about “right wing” extremists, you’re fooling yourself. [/quote]

Oh, give me a break! If you don’t believe it was the Republicans driving this teabagging party, then you’re extremely gullible!

And the last time I checked, babies were portable…they can be moved from place to place in strollers and car seats.

I just have to wonder where these folks were when Republicans were creating a massive deficit like drunken sailors the last eight years. Not a peep then. Geez how people only see what they want to see.

And to sit here and bitch “Socialism” and “Tyranny” when we have no choice but to loan money in attempts to get us out of the biggest pickle we’ve been in since the Great Depression – which was created while the Republicans fiddled and turned a blind eye – absolutely flabberghasts me.

It’s just like when these folks impeached Gray Davis but now that a Republican Terminator is raising fees shortly after re-election, NOT A PEEP.

What a crock.[/quote]

Wait, I thought the CA voters recalled Davis…Just like the CA voters put in the Terminator….

I think what got us into this mess is significantly the fault of the american public. Blame it on banks, but if equally guilty are the folks that extended themselves silly without understanding the implications. It takes two to tango.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte][quote=partypup]
Afx114, in the midst of EVERYTHING that is happening – as we watch Obama incur the biggest deficit in American history and pass the fruits of that deficit to banks (just as Bush began to do with TARP) – how do you possibly come to the conclusion that these protesters are simply angry Republicans? Seriously, do you think that a Democrat should not be fed up with what is happening? I’ve never voted GOP, and if I hadn’t been on a 3-hour feeding and diapering schedule with my son I would have gladly attended a tea party.

If you think this is just about “right wing” extremists, you’re fooling yourself. [/quote]

Oh, give me a break! If you don’t believe it was the Republicans driving this teabagging party, then you’re extremely gullible!

And the last time I checked, babies were portable…they can be moved from place to place in strollers and car seats.

I just have to wonder where these folks were when Republicans were creating a massive deficit like drunken sailors the last eight years. Not a peep then. Geez how people only see what they want to see.

And to sit here and bitch “Socialism” and “Tyranny” when we have no choice but to loan money in attempts to get us out of the biggest pickle we’ve been in since the Great Depression – which was created while the Republicans fiddled and turned a blind eye – absolutely flabberghasts me.

It’s just like when these folks impeached Gray Davis but now that a Republican Terminator is raising fees shortly after re-election, NOT A PEEP.

What a crock.[/quote]

Wait, I thought the CA voters recalled Davis…Just like the CA voters put in the Terminator….

I think what got us into this mess is significantly the fault of the american public. Blame it on banks, but if equally guilty are the folks that extended themselves silly without understanding the implications. It takes two to tango.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte][quote=partypup]
Afx114, in the midst of EVERYTHING that is happening – as we watch Obama incur the biggest deficit in American history and pass the fruits of that deficit to banks (just as Bush began to do with TARP) – how do you possibly come to the conclusion that these protesters are simply angry Republicans? Seriously, do you think that a Democrat should not be fed up with what is happening? I’ve never voted GOP, and if I hadn’t been on a 3-hour feeding and diapering schedule with my son I would have gladly attended a tea party.

If you think this is just about “right wing” extremists, you’re fooling yourself. [/quote]

Oh, give me a break! If you don’t believe it was the Republicans driving this teabagging party, then you’re extremely gullible!

And the last time I checked, babies were portable…they can be moved from place to place in strollers and car seats.

I just have to wonder where these folks were when Republicans were creating a massive deficit like drunken sailors the last eight years. Not a peep then. Geez how people only see what they want to see.

And to sit here and bitch “Socialism” and “Tyranny” when we have no choice but to loan money in attempts to get us out of the biggest pickle we’ve been in since the Great Depression – which was created while the Republicans fiddled and turned a blind eye – absolutely flabberghasts me.

It’s just like when these folks impeached Gray Davis but now that a Republican Terminator is raising fees shortly after re-election, NOT A PEEP.

What a crock.[/quote]

Wait, I thought the CA voters recalled Davis…Just like the CA voters put in the Terminator….

I think what got us into this mess is significantly the fault of the american public. Blame it on banks, but if equally guilty are the folks that extended themselves silly without understanding the implications. It takes two to tango.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte][quote=partypup]
Afx114, in the midst of EVERYTHING that is happening – as we watch Obama incur the biggest deficit in American history and pass the fruits of that deficit to banks (just as Bush began to do with TARP) – how do you possibly come to the conclusion that these protesters are simply angry Republicans? Seriously, do you think that a Democrat should not be fed up with what is happening? I’ve never voted GOP, and if I hadn’t been on a 3-hour feeding and diapering schedule with my son I would have gladly attended a tea party.

If you think this is just about “right wing” extremists, you’re fooling yourself. [/quote]

Oh, give me a break! If you don’t believe it was the Republicans driving this teabagging party, then you’re extremely gullible!

And the last time I checked, babies were portable…they can be moved from place to place in strollers and car seats.

I just have to wonder where these folks were when Republicans were creating a massive deficit like drunken sailors the last eight years. Not a peep then. Geez how people only see what they want to see.

And to sit here and bitch “Socialism” and “Tyranny” when we have no choice but to loan money in attempts to get us out of the biggest pickle we’ve been in since the Great Depression – which was created while the Republicans fiddled and turned a blind eye – absolutely flabberghasts me.

It’s just like when these folks impeached Gray Davis but now that a Republican Terminator is raising fees shortly after re-election, NOT A PEEP.

What a crock.[/quote]

Wait, I thought the CA voters recalled Davis…Just like the CA voters put in the Terminator….

I think what got us into this mess is significantly the fault of the american public. Blame it on banks, but if equally guilty are the folks that extended themselves silly without understanding the implications. It takes two to tango.

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte][quote=partypup]
Afx114, in the midst of EVERYTHING that is happening – as we watch Obama incur the biggest deficit in American history and pass the fruits of that deficit to banks (just as Bush began to do with TARP) – how do you possibly come to the conclusion that these protesters are simply angry Republicans? Seriously, do you think that a Democrat should not be fed up with what is happening? I’ve never voted GOP, and if I hadn’t been on a 3-hour feeding and diapering schedule with my son I would have gladly attended a tea party.

If you think this is just about “right wing” extremists, you’re fooling yourself. [/quote]

Oh, give me a break! If you don’t believe it was the Republicans driving this teabagging party, then you’re extremely gullible!

And the last time I checked, babies were portable…they can be moved from place to place in strollers and car seats.

I just have to wonder where these folks were when Republicans were creating a massive deficit like drunken sailors the last eight years. Not a peep then. Geez how people only see what they want to see.

And to sit here and bitch “Socialism” and “Tyranny” when we have no choice but to loan money in attempts to get us out of the biggest pickle we’ve been in since the Great Depression – which was created while the Republicans fiddled and turned a blind eye – absolutely flabberghasts me.

It’s just like when these folks impeached Gray Davis but now that a Republican Terminator is raising fees shortly after re-election, NOT A PEEP.

What a crock.[/quote]

Wait, I thought the CA voters recalled Davis…Just like the CA voters put in the Terminator….

I think what got us into this mess is significantly the fault of the american public. Blame it on banks, but if equally guilty are the folks that extended themselves silly without understanding the implications. It takes two to tango.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] You think this shit is a mess? Wait until you catch a whiff of the biggest unfunded liability on the planet: Medicare and Social Security. You’re talking $80Trn to $100Trn; numbers that absolutely dwarf the present crisis, both in terms of sheer magnitude and societal impact.
[/quote]

Your point is well taken but the sheer magnitude of that liability is the kind of thing that begs the question of what will be done.
Obviously, if this expense were to be a catastrophically incurred, monetization (or even just paying out of reserves) would not be an option.
It would require an honest-to-dobbs paradigm shift.
Everyone would have to re-think how best to achieve the intended result.

Examples of previous expense-driven innovations:
-Universal health (British post-war)
-The automobile
-the pc
-Home loans of more than 50% LTV

I mean once the expense gets too big, the rules just change in a big way.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] You think this shit is a mess? Wait until you catch a whiff of the biggest unfunded liability on the planet: Medicare and Social Security. You’re talking $80Trn to $100Trn; numbers that absolutely dwarf the present crisis, both in terms of sheer magnitude and societal impact.
[/quote]

Your point is well taken but the sheer magnitude of that liability is the kind of thing that begs the question of what will be done.
Obviously, if this expense were to be a catastrophically incurred, monetization (or even just paying out of reserves) would not be an option.
It would require an honest-to-dobbs paradigm shift.
Everyone would have to re-think how best to achieve the intended result.

Examples of previous expense-driven innovations:
-Universal health (British post-war)
-The automobile
-the pc
-Home loans of more than 50% LTV

I mean once the expense gets too big, the rules just change in a big way.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] You think this shit is a mess? Wait until you catch a whiff of the biggest unfunded liability on the planet: Medicare and Social Security. You’re talking $80Trn to $100Trn; numbers that absolutely dwarf the present crisis, both in terms of sheer magnitude and societal impact.
[/quote]

Your point is well taken but the sheer magnitude of that liability is the kind of thing that begs the question of what will be done.
Obviously, if this expense were to be a catastrophically incurred, monetization (or even just paying out of reserves) would not be an option.
It would require an honest-to-dobbs paradigm shift.
Everyone would have to re-think how best to achieve the intended result.

Examples of previous expense-driven innovations:
-Universal health (British post-war)
-The automobile
-the pc
-Home loans of more than 50% LTV

I mean once the expense gets too big, the rules just change in a big way.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] You think this shit is a mess? Wait until you catch a whiff of the biggest unfunded liability on the planet: Medicare and Social Security. You’re talking $80Trn to $100Trn; numbers that absolutely dwarf the present crisis, both in terms of sheer magnitude and societal impact.
[/quote]

Your point is well taken but the sheer magnitude of that liability is the kind of thing that begs the question of what will be done.
Obviously, if this expense were to be a catastrophically incurred, monetization (or even just paying out of reserves) would not be an option.
It would require an honest-to-dobbs paradigm shift.
Everyone would have to re-think how best to achieve the intended result.

Examples of previous expense-driven innovations:
-Universal health (British post-war)
-The automobile
-the pc
-Home loans of more than 50% LTV

I mean once the expense gets too big, the rules just change in a big way.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] You think this shit is a mess? Wait until you catch a whiff of the biggest unfunded liability on the planet: Medicare and Social Security. You’re talking $80Trn to $100Trn; numbers that absolutely dwarf the present crisis, both in terms of sheer magnitude and societal impact.
[/quote]

Your point is well taken but the sheer magnitude of that liability is the kind of thing that begs the question of what will be done.
Obviously, if this expense were to be a catastrophically incurred, monetization (or even just paying out of reserves) would not be an option.
It would require an honest-to-dobbs paradigm shift.
Everyone would have to re-think how best to achieve the intended result.

Examples of previous expense-driven innovations:
-Universal health (British post-war)
-The automobile
-the pc
-Home loans of more than 50% LTV

I mean once the expense gets too big, the rules just change in a big way.

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