BUY AMERICAN (avoid that made in China)

[CA renter]

[quote=jpinpb]patientrenter – I won’t go into the very long and easy list to make, but it starts out being made here and then ends up being made elsewhere for less. That basically is the crux of the problem. We are shedding more jobs than weight on The Biggest Loser. We have created and invented many goods that were better. In the end, we lose them to cheap labor.

This could almost be a case toward buying houses. For now, most of it is still made here. LOL.[/quote]

That’s exactly the problem.

What good does it do us to innovate if our products and ideas are quickly shifted to other manufacturing bases? That’s like trying to win a race while running on a hamster wheel.

Not only that, but there is an endless list of products that were made here, but are now made overseas — NOT because foreign workers build a better product, but ONLY because they provide cheaper labor. That people in many of these countries might look different from Euro-Americans is totally beside the point. The quality of these products has declined greatly as a result of this “globalization.”

I don’t think anyone is opposed to buying products from countries that have the same labor and environmental protections that we have, but can still build a better product for a similar price. Unfortunately, that is NOT what we get with our current version of globalization.

[jpinpb]

CA renter. Thank you. Maybe I’m just not succinct enough about that. What people in other countries look like matter not to me. They can be green and from Mars. They can be hard workers, no doubt. Just as we can be as well.

As you said, just as quickly as we design and made something here, it ends up being built elsewhere. Companies are looking at the bottom line of profits and we can’t compete w/wages in countries such as China.

And you’re right again. If those countries and companies operated under the same labor laws and environmental protections we are subjected to, it would be a different story.

That and whatever else tax credits companies get for shipping jobs overseas.

But that would all be back to complaining as if our hands were tied and the whole point I think was to act locally on a personal level what you can do. I think that was what the point was of that email I got. The choice to buy American made products.

[jpinpb]

CA renter. Thank you. Maybe I’m just not succinct enough about that. What people in other countries look like matter not to me. They can be green and from Mars. They can be hard workers, no doubt. Just as we can be as well.

As you said, just as quickly as we design and made something here, it ends up being built elsewhere. Companies are looking at the bottom line of profits and we can’t compete w/wages in countries such as China.

And you’re right again. If those countries and companies operated under the same labor laws and environmental protections we are subjected to, it would be a different story.

That and whatever else tax credits companies get for shipping jobs overseas.

But that would all be back to complaining as if our hands were tied and the whole point I think was to act locally on a personal level what you can do. I think that was what the point was of that email I got. The choice to buy American made products.

[jpinpb]

CA renter. Thank you. Maybe I’m just not succinct enough about that. What people in other countries look like matter not to me. They can be green and from Mars. They can be hard workers, no doubt. Just as we can be as well.

As you said, just as quickly as we design and made something here, it ends up being built elsewhere. Companies are looking at the bottom line of profits and we can’t compete w/wages in countries such as China.

And you’re right again. If those countries and companies operated under the same labor laws and environmental protections we are subjected to, it would be a different story.

That and whatever else tax credits companies get for shipping jobs overseas.

But that would all be back to complaining as if our hands were tied and the whole point I think was to act locally on a personal level what you can do. I think that was what the point was of that email I got. The choice to buy American made products.

[jpinpb]

CA renter. Thank you. Maybe I’m just not succinct enough about that. What people in other countries look like matter not to me. They can be green and from Mars. They can be hard workers, no doubt. Just as we can be as well.

As you said, just as quickly as we design and made something here, it ends up being built elsewhere. Companies are looking at the bottom line of profits and we can’t compete w/wages in countries such as China.

And you’re right again. If those countries and companies operated under the same labor laws and environmental protections we are subjected to, it would be a different story.

That and whatever else tax credits companies get for shipping jobs overseas.

But that would all be back to complaining as if our hands were tied and the whole point I think was to act locally on a personal level what you can do. I think that was what the point was of that email I got. The choice to buy American made products.

[jpinpb]

CA renter. Thank you. Maybe I’m just not succinct enough about that. What people in other countries look like matter not to me. They can be green and from Mars. They can be hard workers, no doubt. Just as we can be as well.

As you said, just as quickly as we design and made something here, it ends up being built elsewhere. Companies are looking at the bottom line of profits and we can’t compete w/wages in countries such as China.

And you’re right again. If those countries and companies operated under the same labor laws and environmental protections we are subjected to, it would be a different story.

That and whatever else tax credits companies get for shipping jobs overseas.

But that would all be back to complaining as if our hands were tied and the whole point I think was to act locally on a personal level what you can do. I think that was what the point was of that email I got. The choice to buy American made products.

[Rt.66]

jpinpb I think most who read this thread automatically knew you weren’t singling out China to be racist or anything. China is the big target these days, most assume its a support USA products thread, not a hit job on yellow people.

Like I’ve said many times before on similar threads, we do not have fair trade we have trade charity. Our Gov. is making friends and influencing people by giving away OUR jobs.

Free trade is cool and choice is cool. When it becomes so unfair and onesided that your jobs scoot out the window like teenagers on Friday night then you need to start steeering things back to fair.

Now is a good time to start getting proactive about China because they are just getting started. In a few years we’ll have Chinese cars and motorcycles taking market share and toys will be the least of our worries (that is IF we still have an auto industry to defend).

So what if by some crazy bizzaro world scenario the Gov. wants us downtrodden? Maybe Clinton, Bush and now Obama really just want more and more power and control, and a global economy full of just them and poor people, nothing inbetween, is their ideal world? Choosing to buy US products when we can is a chance to vote with our dollars everyday. It the one thing they can’t control because enterprising entreprenures will build in the US if people will seek out and buy that made in USA label.

Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk.

[Rt.66]

jpinpb I think most who read this thread automatically knew you weren’t singling out China to be racist or anything. China is the big target these days, most assume its a support USA products thread, not a hit job on yellow people.

Like I’ve said many times before on similar threads, we do not have fair trade we have trade charity. Our Gov. is making friends and influencing people by giving away OUR jobs.

Free trade is cool and choice is cool. When it becomes so unfair and onesided that your jobs scoot out the window like teenagers on Friday night then you need to start steeering things back to fair.

Now is a good time to start getting proactive about China because they are just getting started. In a few years we’ll have Chinese cars and motorcycles taking market share and toys will be the least of our worries (that is IF we still have an auto industry to defend).

So what if by some crazy bizzaro world scenario the Gov. wants us downtrodden? Maybe Clinton, Bush and now Obama really just want more and more power and control, and a global economy full of just them and poor people, nothing inbetween, is their ideal world? Choosing to buy US products when we can is a chance to vote with our dollars everyday. It the one thing they can’t control because enterprising entreprenures will build in the US if people will seek out and buy that made in USA label.

Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk.

[Rt.66]

jpinpb I think most who read this thread automatically knew you weren’t singling out China to be racist or anything. China is the big target these days, most assume its a support USA products thread, not a hit job on yellow people.

Like I’ve said many times before on similar threads, we do not have fair trade we have trade charity. Our Gov. is making friends and influencing people by giving away OUR jobs.

Free trade is cool and choice is cool. When it becomes so unfair and onesided that your jobs scoot out the window like teenagers on Friday night then you need to start steeering things back to fair.

Now is a good time to start getting proactive about China because they are just getting started. In a few years we’ll have Chinese cars and motorcycles taking market share and toys will be the least of our worries (that is IF we still have an auto industry to defend).

So what if by some crazy bizzaro world scenario the Gov. wants us downtrodden? Maybe Clinton, Bush and now Obama really just want more and more power and control, and a global economy full of just them and poor people, nothing inbetween, is their ideal world? Choosing to buy US products when we can is a chance to vote with our dollars everyday. It the one thing they can’t control because enterprising entreprenures will build in the US if people will seek out and buy that made in USA label.

Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk.

[Rt.66]

jpinpb I think most who read this thread automatically knew you weren’t singling out China to be racist or anything. China is the big target these days, most assume its a support USA products thread, not a hit job on yellow people.

Like I’ve said many times before on similar threads, we do not have fair trade we have trade charity. Our Gov. is making friends and influencing people by giving away OUR jobs.

Free trade is cool and choice is cool. When it becomes so unfair and onesided that your jobs scoot out the window like teenagers on Friday night then you need to start steeering things back to fair.

Now is a good time to start getting proactive about China because they are just getting started. In a few years we’ll have Chinese cars and motorcycles taking market share and toys will be the least of our worries (that is IF we still have an auto industry to defend).

So what if by some crazy bizzaro world scenario the Gov. wants us downtrodden? Maybe Clinton, Bush and now Obama really just want more and more power and control, and a global economy full of just them and poor people, nothing inbetween, is their ideal world? Choosing to buy US products when we can is a chance to vote with our dollars everyday. It the one thing they can’t control because enterprising entreprenures will build in the US if people will seek out and buy that made in USA label.

Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk.

[Rt.66]

jpinpb I think most who read this thread automatically knew you weren’t singling out China to be racist or anything. China is the big target these days, most assume its a support USA products thread, not a hit job on yellow people.

Like I’ve said many times before on similar threads, we do not have fair trade we have trade charity. Our Gov. is making friends and influencing people by giving away OUR jobs.

Free trade is cool and choice is cool. When it becomes so unfair and onesided that your jobs scoot out the window like teenagers on Friday night then you need to start steeering things back to fair.

Now is a good time to start getting proactive about China because they are just getting started. In a few years we’ll have Chinese cars and motorcycles taking market share and toys will be the least of our worries (that is IF we still have an auto industry to defend).

So what if by some crazy bizzaro world scenario the Gov. wants us downtrodden? Maybe Clinton, Bush and now Obama really just want more and more power and control, and a global economy full of just them and poor people, nothing inbetween, is their ideal world? Choosing to buy US products when we can is a chance to vote with our dollars everyday. It the one thing they can’t control because enterprising entreprenures will build in the US if people will seek out and buy that made in USA label.

Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Rt.66]
Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk. [/quote]

You said it right there. So many came together to support our troops during war. War. Not necessarily a good thing. Yet we can’t support our very own workers?

I agree, Rt.66. This is a good a time as any to step up to the plate. One’s very own job could depend on it. Domino effect in progress.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Rt.66]
Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk. [/quote]

You said it right there. So many came together to support our troops during war. War. Not necessarily a good thing. Yet we can’t support our very own workers?

I agree, Rt.66. This is a good a time as any to step up to the plate. One’s very own job could depend on it. Domino effect in progress.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Rt.66]
Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk. [/quote]

You said it right there. So many came together to support our troops during war. War. Not necessarily a good thing. Yet we can’t support our very own workers?

I agree, Rt.66. This is a good a time as any to step up to the plate. One’s very own job could depend on it. Domino effect in progress.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Rt.66]
Even without the CT it’s a good healthy thing for the US workers to be supported by their nieghbors and fellow countyfolk. [/quote]

You said it right there. So many came together to support our troops during war. War. Not necessarily a good thing. Yet we can’t support our very own workers?

I agree, Rt.66. This is a good a time as any to step up to the plate. One’s very own job could depend on it. Domino effect in progress.

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