Business data point in Temecula

[temeculaguy]

Bob, post a link unless you are thinking of buying it. Maybe that 259k bolsters my argument, it can be a low water mark and if things get much worse and you can find it for 175 come summer, then I was wrong. One thing to consider when looking at list prices, it is a strategy of some reo listing agents to list an extremely low price and get the bidding war going. I also don’t like using short sale prices for guaging things. Closed sales price is the best but obviously it is a few months behind for guaging sentiment and raw data includes sales back to the bank. The best way is to track that house and see what it goes for, what it closes at or better yet, wait two days and call the realtor yourself. Tell them you are unrepresented and want to know if you put in a full price offer would it be worth your time. If there are 10 offers on the second day, all over list, then the list price was was merely a launching point, if it’s still sitting there without offers after 48 hours, then that is when you move in with 225k. I don’t know the house so i can’t give you a specific opinion. I’m seeing new listings at about the same as they have been since December, which is why i feel thigs are tapering off.

Here are some examples I see at low water marks.

a 2/2 condoish apartment, rents for about a grand, maybe a little more, 100k, sold new in 2005 for 280k

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Temecula/44758-Adam-Ln-92592/home/6684608

200 hoa, about 150 in taxes (current taxes of 3300 yr are based on a 255 valuation) and your true cost for 100k on a thirty year (assuming no down for dollar cost purposes only) for 100k at 5% is $536. So you can buy this for under $900 a month for principal, interest, taxes and hoa. Insurance is partially covered by the hoa for structure, a contents policy will add $30 a month. Factor in the tax deduction and you are between $600 and $700 net cost, no yardwork, a pool and a gym.

You can buy one for grandma, your kid, the guy working at in n out can buy it and he can walk to work. I toured these when they were new and the news and the economy were great, they didn’t make sense at 280k, I look at them now, flirting with 5 digits, with the news and economy being all bad and it makes sense to me now. Not for appreciation but because of affordability, a hedge against inflation for those on a fixed income.

[temeculaguy]

Temeku and carlsbadworker are in, maybe I’ll make a new thread and hammer out some dates/locations

[temeculaguy]

Temeku and carlsbadworker are in, maybe I’ll make a new thread and hammer out some dates/locations

[temeculaguy]

Temeku and carlsbadworker are in, maybe I’ll make a new thread and hammer out some dates/locations

[temeculaguy]

Temeku and carlsbadworker are in, maybe I’ll make a new thread and hammer out some dates/locations

[temeculaguy]

Temeku and carlsbadworker are in, maybe I’ll make a new thread and hammer out some dates/locations

[Bob]

[quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.

[Bob]

[quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.

[Bob]

[quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.

[Bob]

[quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.

[Bob]

[quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Bob][quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.
[/quote]
Thanks for responding and congratulations on your place. I agree with you BTW. Good question. I made a thread out of it…sort of.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Bob][quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.
[/quote]
Thanks for responding and congratulations on your place. I agree with you BTW. Good question. I made a thread out of it…sort of.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Bob][quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.
[/quote]
Thanks for responding and congratulations on your place. I agree with you BTW. Good question. I made a thread out of it…sort of.

[NotCranky]

[quote=Bob][quote=Russell]Bob,
Did you post previously under bob007 or another name? Just curious.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am looking at it as a reasonable entry point where a person using common sense puts themselves in a likely position to remain satisfied with the situation.[/quote]

Fair enough, but under that definition I should have called the bottom in early 2008 when I purchased in TV. LOL Seriously, when I made the purchase I knew the market was still on a downward slope, but it didn’t matter because I purchased a property that is a positive cash flow situation and got it at a 60% discount from peak. It helped that it was a beautiful property in Red Hawk.

The bottom line here is that predicting bottom, whether it be in the housing market or the overall economy, is a useless endeavor because the “bottom” has different interpretations depending on the person.
[/quote]
Thanks for responding and congratulations on your place. I agree with you BTW. Good question. I made a thread out of it…sort of.

[Author]

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