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December 5, 2007 at 11:18 AM #11088
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109391
Arty
ParticipantI don’t get it. Last time I checked, Bush is our president, and the bail out is from his adminstration. Why put Hillary’s name in the headline. Wait, oh, I forgot Michelle Malkin is a racist, a conservative, and a hypocrites. Btw, I fully expect Hillary to do things she mentioned. However, for a Republican adminstration to do the same thing. Shame on you first before criticizing Hillary :). I don’t like Hillary btw, go Edwards.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:50 AM #109406
hipmatt
ParticipantARTY.. lol Michelle is a racist ..lol, she is one of the sharpest voices out there and has a rapidly growing fan base. a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.
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December 5, 2007 at 12:20 PM #109450
Arty
Participant“a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.”
Let’s see, she is a hypocrite because she can’t read today’s headline news or don’t want to read it.
“Bush to outline 5-year rate freeze plan-sources.”
It is not Pualson, it is Bush or at least he is the man according to himself.
She is a racist. First you can google it, or you can just go through her picture gallery from her blog :).
I am against bailout but Bush administration are as guilty as Democrats if not more since they are the one holding the presidency.
Oh, I also like to make jokes. 🙂
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December 5, 2007 at 12:33 PM #109460
kev374
Participanthillary is a sh!thead. Plain and simple.
People buy stuff like automobiles, electronics etc. on “same as cash”, introductory, teaser rates etc. Why not bail them out as well or lock in their initial payments?
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December 5, 2007 at 12:48 PM #109475
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI’m voting Republican only if Huckabee (or better yet Ron Paul) gets the nomination.
Otherwise, I’m voting for Hillary. I love Bill and Hillary. And we need some fun. Having the social conservatives all riled-up will be entertaining to watch.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:03 PM #109485
Ash Housewares
ParticipantI’m with Arty on this one. Hillary is but one senator, Bush is President. To call this bailout “Hillarycare for housing” is disingenuous at best. I wish Michelle Malkin could just set aside her anti-Hillary crusade for a moment and call things as they are. Some people are just blinded by ideology.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:18 PM #109505
drunkle
Participantmichelle malkin is an utter tool. it’s sad that people read her (and limbaugh, oreilly, hannity, et al) without a glimmer of critical thought.
that second article portrays california dems in a really good light. the nit pick, deceptive disparagements are laughable.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:25 PM #109520
patientlywaiting
ParticipantSo we agree that the housing mess is the biggest clusterfuck to hit America in the last couple of decades. 2 million foreclosures.
Under whose watch was all this perpetrated? Bush and a Republican Congress.
Add Iraq and 4000 dead soldiers and you’ve got your answer.
Both those calamities can’t be attributed to a previous administration. I feel sorry for the next president.
NB: I’m a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets.
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December 5, 2007 at 2:24 PM #109615
SD Realtor
ParticipantI think it is safe to say greed and corruption flourish under either party here in the US. Come on guys, really if Gore were president from 2000 to 2004 does anybody really believe the housing bubble would not have happened? Let’s be honest. If a republican were in office in the 90’s would corruption with the likes of Enron and other massive corporate fallacies not have happened? Look who are the biggest contributors to both parties. It does not matter who is in charge, the primary candidates from both parties are lobbied by the same corporate players.
I think it is very very possible to trace major systemic failures back to either democrat or republican previous presidents if one looks hard enough.
For me personally I am very disappointed with all of the candidates. Hillary scares me the most purely for selfish reasons such that I believe her candidacy will hit my pocketbook the hardest. That is not to say she is any more or less swayed by the lobbyists.
Personally I am a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets like PW posted…. and yes a registered libertarian…
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December 5, 2007 at 2:44 PM #109655
nostradamus
ParticipantRight on SDR. I hate both political parties equally. Party polarization is merely a distraction for us common folk so we won’t notice when the people holding real power (lobbyists and the media) stab us in the arse.
Watching republicans and democrats debate and grandstand is like watching WWF wrestling. It’s amusing but also pointless and fake, they just throw out key words like freedom, security, democracy, as if those mean anything.
I liked the movie “Thank you for smoking” because I felt it accurately depicted lobbying power.
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December 5, 2007 at 3:03 PM #109670
SD Realtor
Participantnostra that was a good movie. I enjoyed it as well…
the wwf reference was AWESOME… some old favorites of mine…
1 – absolutely randy macho man savage…
ooooooooo yeaaaaaaaaah
2 – dusty rhodes
3 – mr perfect
4 – brutus the barber beefcake
5 – seargent slaughter
6 – rowdy roddy piperbest announcer? mean gene okaling (was that his name)
Also I forgot which wrestler used to come out and when he beat someone he would brink the snake out in a burlap sack.
sorry to deter the thread but I will now and forever associate our current political parties with the wwf.
SD Realtor
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December 5, 2007 at 3:13 PM #109685
rube
ParticipantJYD…THUMP
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December 5, 2007 at 3:13 PM #109800
rube
ParticipantJYD…THUMP
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December 5, 2007 at 3:13 PM #109828
rube
ParticipantJYD…THUMP
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December 5, 2007 at 3:13 PM #109831
rube
ParticipantJYD…THUMP
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December 5, 2007 at 3:13 PM #109848
rube
ParticipantJYD…THUMP
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December 5, 2007 at 3:30 PM #109695
drunkle
Participantjake the snake?
dont forget:
big boss man
the nature boy rick flair
the king jim lawler
superfly stucka (sp?)
hacksaw jim duggan
honky tonk man
british bulldog
the hitman brett whatshisface
irs
the undertaker
the ultimate warrior
etc etcand of course… andre the giant
mean gene has a (shitty) burger joint up central cal, somewhere on the way to paso robles.
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December 5, 2007 at 4:57 PM #109740
nostradamus
ParticipantI was gonna say Andre the Giant but you beat me to it!
Back to politics, here’s the best summary of the upcoming elections that I’ve seen: 2008 elections
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December 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM #110523
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAnyone mention the Road Warriors? (Legion of Doom in the WWF).
This was proud papa Joe “Animal” Laurinaitis escorting his son, current Ohio State All-American Linebacker on his recruiting visit.
The old man still has it going on…
[img_assist|nid=5705|title=Animal|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=340|height=500]
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December 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM #110640
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAnyone mention the Road Warriors? (Legion of Doom in the WWF).
This was proud papa Joe “Animal” Laurinaitis escorting his son, current Ohio State All-American Linebacker on his recruiting visit.
The old man still has it going on…
[img_assist|nid=5705|title=Animal|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=340|height=500]
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December 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM #110670
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAnyone mention the Road Warriors? (Legion of Doom in the WWF).
This was proud papa Joe “Animal” Laurinaitis escorting his son, current Ohio State All-American Linebacker on his recruiting visit.
The old man still has it going on…
[img_assist|nid=5705|title=Animal|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=340|height=500]
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December 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM #110687
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAnyone mention the Road Warriors? (Legion of Doom in the WWF).
This was proud papa Joe “Animal” Laurinaitis escorting his son, current Ohio State All-American Linebacker on his recruiting visit.
The old man still has it going on…
[img_assist|nid=5705|title=Animal|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=340|height=500]
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December 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM #110689
CardiffBaseball
ParticipantAnyone mention the Road Warriors? (Legion of Doom in the WWF).
This was proud papa Joe “Animal” Laurinaitis escorting his son, current Ohio State All-American Linebacker on his recruiting visit.
The old man still has it going on…
[img_assist|nid=5705|title=Animal|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=340|height=500]
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December 5, 2007 at 4:57 PM #109855
nostradamus
ParticipantI was gonna say Andre the Giant but you beat me to it!
Back to politics, here’s the best summary of the upcoming elections that I’ve seen: 2008 elections
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December 5, 2007 at 4:57 PM #109882
nostradamus
ParticipantI was gonna say Andre the Giant but you beat me to it!
Back to politics, here’s the best summary of the upcoming elections that I’ve seen: 2008 elections
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December 5, 2007 at 4:57 PM #109887
nostradamus
ParticipantI was gonna say Andre the Giant but you beat me to it!
Back to politics, here’s the best summary of the upcoming elections that I’ve seen: 2008 elections
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December 5, 2007 at 4:57 PM #109903
nostradamus
ParticipantI was gonna say Andre the Giant but you beat me to it!
Back to politics, here’s the best summary of the upcoming elections that I’ve seen: 2008 elections
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December 5, 2007 at 3:30 PM #109810
drunkle
Participantjake the snake?
dont forget:
big boss man
the nature boy rick flair
the king jim lawler
superfly stucka (sp?)
hacksaw jim duggan
honky tonk man
british bulldog
the hitman brett whatshisface
irs
the undertaker
the ultimate warrior
etc etcand of course… andre the giant
mean gene has a (shitty) burger joint up central cal, somewhere on the way to paso robles.
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December 5, 2007 at 3:30 PM #109838
drunkle
Participantjake the snake?
dont forget:
big boss man
the nature boy rick flair
the king jim lawler
superfly stucka (sp?)
hacksaw jim duggan
honky tonk man
british bulldog
the hitman brett whatshisface
irs
the undertaker
the ultimate warrior
etc etcand of course… andre the giant
mean gene has a (shitty) burger joint up central cal, somewhere on the way to paso robles.
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December 5, 2007 at 3:30 PM #109841
drunkle
Participantjake the snake?
dont forget:
big boss man
the nature boy rick flair
the king jim lawler
superfly stucka (sp?)
hacksaw jim duggan
honky tonk man
british bulldog
the hitman brett whatshisface
irs
the undertaker
the ultimate warrior
etc etcand of course… andre the giant
mean gene has a (shitty) burger joint up central cal, somewhere on the way to paso robles.
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December 5, 2007 at 3:30 PM #109858
drunkle
Participantjake the snake?
dont forget:
big boss man
the nature boy rick flair
the king jim lawler
superfly stucka (sp?)
hacksaw jim duggan
honky tonk man
british bulldog
the hitman brett whatshisface
irs
the undertaker
the ultimate warrior
etc etcand of course… andre the giant
mean gene has a (shitty) burger joint up central cal, somewhere on the way to paso robles.
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December 5, 2007 at 3:03 PM #109784
SD Realtor
Participantnostra that was a good movie. I enjoyed it as well…
the wwf reference was AWESOME… some old favorites of mine…
1 – absolutely randy macho man savage…
ooooooooo yeaaaaaaaaah
2 – dusty rhodes
3 – mr perfect
4 – brutus the barber beefcake
5 – seargent slaughter
6 – rowdy roddy piperbest announcer? mean gene okaling (was that his name)
Also I forgot which wrestler used to come out and when he beat someone he would brink the snake out in a burlap sack.
sorry to deter the thread but I will now and forever associate our current political parties with the wwf.
SD Realtor
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December 5, 2007 at 3:03 PM #109812
SD Realtor
Participantnostra that was a good movie. I enjoyed it as well…
the wwf reference was AWESOME… some old favorites of mine…
1 – absolutely randy macho man savage…
ooooooooo yeaaaaaaaaah
2 – dusty rhodes
3 – mr perfect
4 – brutus the barber beefcake
5 – seargent slaughter
6 – rowdy roddy piperbest announcer? mean gene okaling (was that his name)
Also I forgot which wrestler used to come out and when he beat someone he would brink the snake out in a burlap sack.
sorry to deter the thread but I will now and forever associate our current political parties with the wwf.
SD Realtor
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December 5, 2007 at 3:03 PM #109816
SD Realtor
Participantnostra that was a good movie. I enjoyed it as well…
the wwf reference was AWESOME… some old favorites of mine…
1 – absolutely randy macho man savage…
ooooooooo yeaaaaaaaaah
2 – dusty rhodes
3 – mr perfect
4 – brutus the barber beefcake
5 – seargent slaughter
6 – rowdy roddy piperbest announcer? mean gene okaling (was that his name)
Also I forgot which wrestler used to come out and when he beat someone he would brink the snake out in a burlap sack.
sorry to deter the thread but I will now and forever associate our current political parties with the wwf.
SD Realtor
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December 5, 2007 at 3:03 PM #109833
SD Realtor
Participantnostra that was a good movie. I enjoyed it as well…
the wwf reference was AWESOME… some old favorites of mine…
1 – absolutely randy macho man savage…
ooooooooo yeaaaaaaaaah
2 – dusty rhodes
3 – mr perfect
4 – brutus the barber beefcake
5 – seargent slaughter
6 – rowdy roddy piperbest announcer? mean gene okaling (was that his name)
Also I forgot which wrestler used to come out and when he beat someone he would brink the snake out in a burlap sack.
sorry to deter the thread but I will now and forever associate our current political parties with the wwf.
SD Realtor
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December 5, 2007 at 2:44 PM #109769
nostradamus
ParticipantRight on SDR. I hate both political parties equally. Party polarization is merely a distraction for us common folk so we won’t notice when the people holding real power (lobbyists and the media) stab us in the arse.
Watching republicans and democrats debate and grandstand is like watching WWF wrestling. It’s amusing but also pointless and fake, they just throw out key words like freedom, security, democracy, as if those mean anything.
I liked the movie “Thank you for smoking” because I felt it accurately depicted lobbying power.
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December 5, 2007 at 2:44 PM #109796
nostradamus
ParticipantRight on SDR. I hate both political parties equally. Party polarization is merely a distraction for us common folk so we won’t notice when the people holding real power (lobbyists and the media) stab us in the arse.
Watching republicans and democrats debate and grandstand is like watching WWF wrestling. It’s amusing but also pointless and fake, they just throw out key words like freedom, security, democracy, as if those mean anything.
I liked the movie “Thank you for smoking” because I felt it accurately depicted lobbying power.
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December 5, 2007 at 2:44 PM #109801
nostradamus
ParticipantRight on SDR. I hate both political parties equally. Party polarization is merely a distraction for us common folk so we won’t notice when the people holding real power (lobbyists and the media) stab us in the arse.
Watching republicans and democrats debate and grandstand is like watching WWF wrestling. It’s amusing but also pointless and fake, they just throw out key words like freedom, security, democracy, as if those mean anything.
I liked the movie “Thank you for smoking” because I felt it accurately depicted lobbying power.
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December 5, 2007 at 2:44 PM #109818
nostradamus
ParticipantRight on SDR. I hate both political parties equally. Party polarization is merely a distraction for us common folk so we won’t notice when the people holding real power (lobbyists and the media) stab us in the arse.
Watching republicans and democrats debate and grandstand is like watching WWF wrestling. It’s amusing but also pointless and fake, they just throw out key words like freedom, security, democracy, as if those mean anything.
I liked the movie “Thank you for smoking” because I felt it accurately depicted lobbying power.
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December 5, 2007 at 2:24 PM #109728
SD Realtor
ParticipantI think it is safe to say greed and corruption flourish under either party here in the US. Come on guys, really if Gore were president from 2000 to 2004 does anybody really believe the housing bubble would not have happened? Let’s be honest. If a republican were in office in the 90’s would corruption with the likes of Enron and other massive corporate fallacies not have happened? Look who are the biggest contributors to both parties. It does not matter who is in charge, the primary candidates from both parties are lobbied by the same corporate players.
I think it is very very possible to trace major systemic failures back to either democrat or republican previous presidents if one looks hard enough.
For me personally I am very disappointed with all of the candidates. Hillary scares me the most purely for selfish reasons such that I believe her candidacy will hit my pocketbook the hardest. That is not to say she is any more or less swayed by the lobbyists.
Personally I am a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets like PW posted…. and yes a registered libertarian…
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December 5, 2007 at 2:24 PM #109757
SD Realtor
ParticipantI think it is safe to say greed and corruption flourish under either party here in the US. Come on guys, really if Gore were president from 2000 to 2004 does anybody really believe the housing bubble would not have happened? Let’s be honest. If a republican were in office in the 90’s would corruption with the likes of Enron and other massive corporate fallacies not have happened? Look who are the biggest contributors to both parties. It does not matter who is in charge, the primary candidates from both parties are lobbied by the same corporate players.
I think it is very very possible to trace major systemic failures back to either democrat or republican previous presidents if one looks hard enough.
For me personally I am very disappointed with all of the candidates. Hillary scares me the most purely for selfish reasons such that I believe her candidacy will hit my pocketbook the hardest. That is not to say she is any more or less swayed by the lobbyists.
Personally I am a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets like PW posted…. and yes a registered libertarian…
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December 5, 2007 at 2:24 PM #109763
SD Realtor
ParticipantI think it is safe to say greed and corruption flourish under either party here in the US. Come on guys, really if Gore were president from 2000 to 2004 does anybody really believe the housing bubble would not have happened? Let’s be honest. If a republican were in office in the 90’s would corruption with the likes of Enron and other massive corporate fallacies not have happened? Look who are the biggest contributors to both parties. It does not matter who is in charge, the primary candidates from both parties are lobbied by the same corporate players.
I think it is very very possible to trace major systemic failures back to either democrat or republican previous presidents if one looks hard enough.
For me personally I am very disappointed with all of the candidates. Hillary scares me the most purely for selfish reasons such that I believe her candidacy will hit my pocketbook the hardest. That is not to say she is any more or less swayed by the lobbyists.
Personally I am a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets like PW posted…. and yes a registered libertarian…
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December 5, 2007 at 2:24 PM #109778
SD Realtor
ParticipantI think it is safe to say greed and corruption flourish under either party here in the US. Come on guys, really if Gore were president from 2000 to 2004 does anybody really believe the housing bubble would not have happened? Let’s be honest. If a republican were in office in the 90’s would corruption with the likes of Enron and other massive corporate fallacies not have happened? Look who are the biggest contributors to both parties. It does not matter who is in charge, the primary candidates from both parties are lobbied by the same corporate players.
I think it is very very possible to trace major systemic failures back to either democrat or republican previous presidents if one looks hard enough.
For me personally I am very disappointed with all of the candidates. Hillary scares me the most purely for selfish reasons such that I believe her candidacy will hit my pocketbook the hardest. That is not to say she is any more or less swayed by the lobbyists.
Personally I am a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets like PW posted…. and yes a registered libertarian…
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December 5, 2007 at 1:25 PM #109632
patientlywaiting
ParticipantSo we agree that the housing mess is the biggest clusterfuck to hit America in the last couple of decades. 2 million foreclosures.
Under whose watch was all this perpetrated? Bush and a Republican Congress.
Add Iraq and 4000 dead soldiers and you’ve got your answer.
Both those calamities can’t be attributed to a previous administration. I feel sorry for the next president.
NB: I’m a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:25 PM #109664
patientlywaiting
ParticipantSo we agree that the housing mess is the biggest clusterfuck to hit America in the last couple of decades. 2 million foreclosures.
Under whose watch was all this perpetrated? Bush and a Republican Congress.
Add Iraq and 4000 dead soldiers and you’ve got your answer.
Both those calamities can’t be attributed to a previous administration. I feel sorry for the next president.
NB: I’m a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:25 PM #109669
patientlywaiting
ParticipantSo we agree that the housing mess is the biggest clusterfuck to hit America in the last couple of decades. 2 million foreclosures.
Under whose watch was all this perpetrated? Bush and a Republican Congress.
Add Iraq and 4000 dead soldiers and you’ve got your answer.
Both those calamities can’t be attributed to a previous administration. I feel sorry for the next president.
NB: I’m a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:25 PM #109681
patientlywaiting
ParticipantSo we agree that the housing mess is the biggest clusterfuck to hit America in the last couple of decades. 2 million foreclosures.
Under whose watch was all this perpetrated? Bush and a Republican Congress.
Add Iraq and 4000 dead soldiers and you’ve got your answer.
Both those calamities can’t be attributed to a previous administration. I feel sorry for the next president.
NB: I’m a fiscal conservative and supporter of free markets.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:18 PM #109617
drunkle
Participantmichelle malkin is an utter tool. it’s sad that people read her (and limbaugh, oreilly, hannity, et al) without a glimmer of critical thought.
that second article portrays california dems in a really good light. the nit pick, deceptive disparagements are laughable.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:18 PM #109650
drunkle
Participantmichelle malkin is an utter tool. it’s sad that people read her (and limbaugh, oreilly, hannity, et al) without a glimmer of critical thought.
that second article portrays california dems in a really good light. the nit pick, deceptive disparagements are laughable.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:18 PM #109653
drunkle
Participantmichelle malkin is an utter tool. it’s sad that people read her (and limbaugh, oreilly, hannity, et al) without a glimmer of critical thought.
that second article portrays california dems in a really good light. the nit pick, deceptive disparagements are laughable.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:18 PM #109666
drunkle
Participantmichelle malkin is an utter tool. it’s sad that people read her (and limbaugh, oreilly, hannity, et al) without a glimmer of critical thought.
that second article portrays california dems in a really good light. the nit pick, deceptive disparagements are laughable.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:03 PM #109597
Ash Housewares
ParticipantI’m with Arty on this one. Hillary is but one senator, Bush is President. To call this bailout “Hillarycare for housing” is disingenuous at best. I wish Michelle Malkin could just set aside her anti-Hillary crusade for a moment and call things as they are. Some people are just blinded by ideology.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:03 PM #109628
Ash Housewares
ParticipantI’m with Arty on this one. Hillary is but one senator, Bush is President. To call this bailout “Hillarycare for housing” is disingenuous at best. I wish Michelle Malkin could just set aside her anti-Hillary crusade for a moment and call things as they are. Some people are just blinded by ideology.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:03 PM #109633
Ash Housewares
ParticipantI’m with Arty on this one. Hillary is but one senator, Bush is President. To call this bailout “Hillarycare for housing” is disingenuous at best. I wish Michelle Malkin could just set aside her anti-Hillary crusade for a moment and call things as they are. Some people are just blinded by ideology.
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December 5, 2007 at 1:03 PM #109646
Ash Housewares
ParticipantI’m with Arty on this one. Hillary is but one senator, Bush is President. To call this bailout “Hillarycare for housing” is disingenuous at best. I wish Michelle Malkin could just set aside her anti-Hillary crusade for a moment and call things as they are. Some people are just blinded by ideology.
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December 5, 2007 at 12:48 PM #109587
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI’m voting Republican only if Huckabee (or better yet Ron Paul) gets the nomination.
Otherwise, I’m voting for Hillary. I love Bill and Hillary. And we need some fun. Having the social conservatives all riled-up will be entertaining to watch.
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December 5, 2007 at 12:48 PM #109618
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI’m voting Republican only if Huckabee (or better yet Ron Paul) gets the nomination.
Otherwise, I’m voting for Hillary. I love Bill and Hillary. And we need some fun. Having the social conservatives all riled-up will be entertaining to watch.
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December 5, 2007 at 12:48 PM #109624
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI’m voting Republican only if Huckabee (or better yet Ron Paul) gets the nomination.
Otherwise, I’m voting for Hillary. I love Bill and Hillary. And we need some fun. Having the social conservatives all riled-up will be entertaining to watch.
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December 5, 2007 at 12:48 PM #109636
patientlywaiting
ParticipantI’m voting Republican only if Huckabee (or better yet Ron Paul) gets the nomination.
Otherwise, I’m voting for Hillary. I love Bill and Hillary. And we need some fun. Having the social conservatives all riled-up will be entertaining to watch.
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December 5, 2007 at 12:33 PM #109572
kev374
Participanthillary is a sh!thead. Plain and simple.
People buy stuff like automobiles, electronics etc. on “same as cash”, introductory, teaser rates etc. Why not bail them out as well or lock in their initial payments?
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December 5, 2007 at 12:33 PM #109604
kev374
Participanthillary is a sh!thead. Plain and simple.
People buy stuff like automobiles, electronics etc. on “same as cash”, introductory, teaser rates etc. Why not bail them out as well or lock in their initial payments?
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December 5, 2007 at 12:33 PM #109609
kev374
Participanthillary is a sh!thead. Plain and simple.
People buy stuff like automobiles, electronics etc. on “same as cash”, introductory, teaser rates etc. Why not bail them out as well or lock in their initial payments?
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December 5, 2007 at 12:33 PM #109621
kev374
Participanthillary is a sh!thead. Plain and simple.
People buy stuff like automobiles, electronics etc. on “same as cash”, introductory, teaser rates etc. Why not bail them out as well or lock in their initial payments?
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December 5, 2007 at 12:20 PM #109562
Arty
Participant“a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.”
Let’s see, she is a hypocrite because she can’t read today’s headline news or don’t want to read it.
“Bush to outline 5-year rate freeze plan-sources.”
It is not Pualson, it is Bush or at least he is the man according to himself.
She is a racist. First you can google it, or you can just go through her picture gallery from her blog :).
I am against bailout but Bush administration are as guilty as Democrats if not more since they are the one holding the presidency.
Oh, I also like to make jokes. 🙂
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December 5, 2007 at 12:20 PM #109594
Arty
Participant“a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.”
Let’s see, she is a hypocrite because she can’t read today’s headline news or don’t want to read it.
“Bush to outline 5-year rate freeze plan-sources.”
It is not Pualson, it is Bush or at least he is the man according to himself.
She is a racist. First you can google it, or you can just go through her picture gallery from her blog :).
I am against bailout but Bush administration are as guilty as Democrats if not more since they are the one holding the presidency.
Oh, I also like to make jokes. 🙂
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December 5, 2007 at 12:20 PM #109598
Arty
Participant“a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.”
Let’s see, she is a hypocrite because she can’t read today’s headline news or don’t want to read it.
“Bush to outline 5-year rate freeze plan-sources.”
It is not Pualson, it is Bush or at least he is the man according to himself.
She is a racist. First you can google it, or you can just go through her picture gallery from her blog :).
I am against bailout but Bush administration are as guilty as Democrats if not more since they are the one holding the presidency.
Oh, I also like to make jokes. 🙂
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December 5, 2007 at 12:20 PM #109611
Arty
Participant“a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.”
Let’s see, she is a hypocrite because she can’t read today’s headline news or don’t want to read it.
“Bush to outline 5-year rate freeze plan-sources.”
It is not Pualson, it is Bush or at least he is the man according to himself.
She is a racist. First you can google it, or you can just go through her picture gallery from her blog :).
I am against bailout but Bush administration are as guilty as Democrats if not more since they are the one holding the presidency.
Oh, I also like to make jokes. 🙂
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December 5, 2007 at 11:50 AM #109517
hipmatt
ParticipantARTY.. lol Michelle is a racist ..lol, she is one of the sharpest voices out there and has a rapidly growing fan base. a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:50 AM #109549
hipmatt
ParticipantARTY.. lol Michelle is a racist ..lol, she is one of the sharpest voices out there and has a rapidly growing fan base. a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:50 AM #109553
hipmatt
ParticipantARTY.. lol Michelle is a racist ..lol, she is one of the sharpest voices out there and has a rapidly growing fan base. a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:50 AM #109565
hipmatt
ParticipantARTY.. lol Michelle is a racist ..lol, she is one of the sharpest voices out there and has a rapidly growing fan base. a conservative, sure, a hypocrite, a racist, no. you are a joke Arty.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109502
Arty
ParticipantI don’t get it. Last time I checked, Bush is our president, and the bail out is from his adminstration. Why put Hillary’s name in the headline. Wait, oh, I forgot Michelle Malkin is a racist, a conservative, and a hypocrites. Btw, I fully expect Hillary to do things she mentioned. However, for a Republican adminstration to do the same thing. Shame on you first before criticizing Hillary :). I don’t like Hillary btw, go Edwards.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109533
Arty
ParticipantI don’t get it. Last time I checked, Bush is our president, and the bail out is from his adminstration. Why put Hillary’s name in the headline. Wait, oh, I forgot Michelle Malkin is a racist, a conservative, and a hypocrites. Btw, I fully expect Hillary to do things she mentioned. However, for a Republican adminstration to do the same thing. Shame on you first before criticizing Hillary :). I don’t like Hillary btw, go Edwards.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109539
Arty
ParticipantI don’t get it. Last time I checked, Bush is our president, and the bail out is from his adminstration. Why put Hillary’s name in the headline. Wait, oh, I forgot Michelle Malkin is a racist, a conservative, and a hypocrites. Btw, I fully expect Hillary to do things she mentioned. However, for a Republican adminstration to do the same thing. Shame on you first before criticizing Hillary :). I don’t like Hillary btw, go Edwards.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109550
Arty
ParticipantI don’t get it. Last time I checked, Bush is our president, and the bail out is from his adminstration. Why put Hillary’s name in the headline. Wait, oh, I forgot Michelle Malkin is a racist, a conservative, and a hypocrites. Btw, I fully expect Hillary to do things she mentioned. However, for a Republican adminstration to do the same thing. Shame on you first before criticizing Hillary :). I don’t like Hillary btw, go Edwards.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109396
hipmatt
Participant10:00 PM PST on Tuesday, December 4, 2007
The same California Legislature that failed this year to fix the state’s prison system, water supply and budget now wants to solve the home mortgage crisis. But legislators need to realize that government has only limited power to forestall foreclosures — and that political grandstanding could easily add to the financial carnage.
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez, D-Los Angeles, and other legislative Democrats last week called for a special session of the Legislature to address mortgage foreclosures. The Democrats unveiled a package of proposals to address the crisis, including measures to tighten restrictions on lending practices.
Such proposals would do little to stem the tide of foreclosures, however. Government cannot change the terms of existing loans; only lenders and borrowers can agree to restructure the loans, which many are already doing. The legislation could only affect future mortgages, not the many loans in danger of default now.
And existing mortgages are the real crisis, especially the higher-cost subprime loans offered to people with poor credit. Democrats said foreclosures on subprime loans from 2005-06 could cost the state $3 billion in property taxes and $1 billion in sales and transfer taxes. Foreclosures have hit the Inland region at a rate of 1 out of every 43 homes since July, and a report released last week by the U.S. Conference of Mayors said the housing slump could cost the region $2.3 billion.
But about all politicians can really do is inform borrowers of their rights and cajole lenders into renegotiating payment terms. Gov. Schwarzenegger’s November agreement with four lenders, for example, mostly amounted to a promise to freeze interest rates on adjustable rate mortgages to keep homeowners out of default. And that voluntary effort only covers about a fourth of the 500,000 subprime loans in California.
The Democrats’ proposals include ending incentives for lenders to push high-cost subprime loans onto borrowers who could qualify for cheaper mortgages, and requiring lenders to verify that a borrower has the means to repay a loan. And the package includes a ban on prepayment penalties — fees on borrowers for repaying a loan early, which discourage refinancing.
But reining in abusive lending practices is not as clear-cut as politicians might think. Many of the mortgage deals now under scrutiny exist to help more people qualify for money to buy homes. Restrictions that protect consumers at the expense of drying up credit would deprive many Californians of any chance to own a home.
Nor does government have the responsibility rescue people from their own reckless financial decisions. Not everyone facing foreclosure is a victim of unethical lenders; some just exercised poor judgment.
The issue calls for a light touch and a carefully calibrated balance, neither of which has been a hallmark of California’s polarized Legislature.
The surge in foreclosures creates heavy personal and public costs, certainly. But wise legislators will understand that government can at best be only a bit player in this tragedy, and will not dangerously overplay their role.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109507
hipmatt
Participant10:00 PM PST on Tuesday, December 4, 2007
The same California Legislature that failed this year to fix the state’s prison system, water supply and budget now wants to solve the home mortgage crisis. But legislators need to realize that government has only limited power to forestall foreclosures — and that political grandstanding could easily add to the financial carnage.
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez, D-Los Angeles, and other legislative Democrats last week called for a special session of the Legislature to address mortgage foreclosures. The Democrats unveiled a package of proposals to address the crisis, including measures to tighten restrictions on lending practices.
Such proposals would do little to stem the tide of foreclosures, however. Government cannot change the terms of existing loans; only lenders and borrowers can agree to restructure the loans, which many are already doing. The legislation could only affect future mortgages, not the many loans in danger of default now.
And existing mortgages are the real crisis, especially the higher-cost subprime loans offered to people with poor credit. Democrats said foreclosures on subprime loans from 2005-06 could cost the state $3 billion in property taxes and $1 billion in sales and transfer taxes. Foreclosures have hit the Inland region at a rate of 1 out of every 43 homes since July, and a report released last week by the U.S. Conference of Mayors said the housing slump could cost the region $2.3 billion.
But about all politicians can really do is inform borrowers of their rights and cajole lenders into renegotiating payment terms. Gov. Schwarzenegger’s November agreement with four lenders, for example, mostly amounted to a promise to freeze interest rates on adjustable rate mortgages to keep homeowners out of default. And that voluntary effort only covers about a fourth of the 500,000 subprime loans in California.
The Democrats’ proposals include ending incentives for lenders to push high-cost subprime loans onto borrowers who could qualify for cheaper mortgages, and requiring lenders to verify that a borrower has the means to repay a loan. And the package includes a ban on prepayment penalties — fees on borrowers for repaying a loan early, which discourage refinancing.
But reining in abusive lending practices is not as clear-cut as politicians might think. Many of the mortgage deals now under scrutiny exist to help more people qualify for money to buy homes. Restrictions that protect consumers at the expense of drying up credit would deprive many Californians of any chance to own a home.
Nor does government have the responsibility rescue people from their own reckless financial decisions. Not everyone facing foreclosure is a victim of unethical lenders; some just exercised poor judgment.
The issue calls for a light touch and a carefully calibrated balance, neither of which has been a hallmark of California’s polarized Legislature.
The surge in foreclosures creates heavy personal and public costs, certainly. But wise legislators will understand that government can at best be only a bit player in this tragedy, and will not dangerously overplay their role.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109538
hipmatt
Participant10:00 PM PST on Tuesday, December 4, 2007
The same California Legislature that failed this year to fix the state’s prison system, water supply and budget now wants to solve the home mortgage crisis. But legislators need to realize that government has only limited power to forestall foreclosures — and that political grandstanding could easily add to the financial carnage.
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez, D-Los Angeles, and other legislative Democrats last week called for a special session of the Legislature to address mortgage foreclosures. The Democrats unveiled a package of proposals to address the crisis, including measures to tighten restrictions on lending practices.
Such proposals would do little to stem the tide of foreclosures, however. Government cannot change the terms of existing loans; only lenders and borrowers can agree to restructure the loans, which many are already doing. The legislation could only affect future mortgages, not the many loans in danger of default now.
And existing mortgages are the real crisis, especially the higher-cost subprime loans offered to people with poor credit. Democrats said foreclosures on subprime loans from 2005-06 could cost the state $3 billion in property taxes and $1 billion in sales and transfer taxes. Foreclosures have hit the Inland region at a rate of 1 out of every 43 homes since July, and a report released last week by the U.S. Conference of Mayors said the housing slump could cost the region $2.3 billion.
But about all politicians can really do is inform borrowers of their rights and cajole lenders into renegotiating payment terms. Gov. Schwarzenegger’s November agreement with four lenders, for example, mostly amounted to a promise to freeze interest rates on adjustable rate mortgages to keep homeowners out of default. And that voluntary effort only covers about a fourth of the 500,000 subprime loans in California.
The Democrats’ proposals include ending incentives for lenders to push high-cost subprime loans onto borrowers who could qualify for cheaper mortgages, and requiring lenders to verify that a borrower has the means to repay a loan. And the package includes a ban on prepayment penalties — fees on borrowers for repaying a loan early, which discourage refinancing.
But reining in abusive lending practices is not as clear-cut as politicians might think. Many of the mortgage deals now under scrutiny exist to help more people qualify for money to buy homes. Restrictions that protect consumers at the expense of drying up credit would deprive many Californians of any chance to own a home.
Nor does government have the responsibility rescue people from their own reckless financial decisions. Not everyone facing foreclosure is a victim of unethical lenders; some just exercised poor judgment.
The issue calls for a light touch and a carefully calibrated balance, neither of which has been a hallmark of California’s polarized Legislature.
The surge in foreclosures creates heavy personal and public costs, certainly. But wise legislators will understand that government can at best be only a bit player in this tragedy, and will not dangerously overplay their role.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109544
hipmatt
Participant10:00 PM PST on Tuesday, December 4, 2007
The same California Legislature that failed this year to fix the state’s prison system, water supply and budget now wants to solve the home mortgage crisis. But legislators need to realize that government has only limited power to forestall foreclosures — and that political grandstanding could easily add to the financial carnage.
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez, D-Los Angeles, and other legislative Democrats last week called for a special session of the Legislature to address mortgage foreclosures. The Democrats unveiled a package of proposals to address the crisis, including measures to tighten restrictions on lending practices.
Such proposals would do little to stem the tide of foreclosures, however. Government cannot change the terms of existing loans; only lenders and borrowers can agree to restructure the loans, which many are already doing. The legislation could only affect future mortgages, not the many loans in danger of default now.
And existing mortgages are the real crisis, especially the higher-cost subprime loans offered to people with poor credit. Democrats said foreclosures on subprime loans from 2005-06 could cost the state $3 billion in property taxes and $1 billion in sales and transfer taxes. Foreclosures have hit the Inland region at a rate of 1 out of every 43 homes since July, and a report released last week by the U.S. Conference of Mayors said the housing slump could cost the region $2.3 billion.
But about all politicians can really do is inform borrowers of their rights and cajole lenders into renegotiating payment terms. Gov. Schwarzenegger’s November agreement with four lenders, for example, mostly amounted to a promise to freeze interest rates on adjustable rate mortgages to keep homeowners out of default. And that voluntary effort only covers about a fourth of the 500,000 subprime loans in California.
The Democrats’ proposals include ending incentives for lenders to push high-cost subprime loans onto borrowers who could qualify for cheaper mortgages, and requiring lenders to verify that a borrower has the means to repay a loan. And the package includes a ban on prepayment penalties — fees on borrowers for repaying a loan early, which discourage refinancing.
But reining in abusive lending practices is not as clear-cut as politicians might think. Many of the mortgage deals now under scrutiny exist to help more people qualify for money to buy homes. Restrictions that protect consumers at the expense of drying up credit would deprive many Californians of any chance to own a home.
Nor does government have the responsibility rescue people from their own reckless financial decisions. Not everyone facing foreclosure is a victim of unethical lenders; some just exercised poor judgment.
The issue calls for a light touch and a carefully calibrated balance, neither of which has been a hallmark of California’s polarized Legislature.
The surge in foreclosures creates heavy personal and public costs, certainly. But wise legislators will understand that government can at best be only a bit player in this tragedy, and will not dangerously overplay their role.
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December 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM #109555
hipmatt
Participant10:00 PM PST on Tuesday, December 4, 2007
The same California Legislature that failed this year to fix the state’s prison system, water supply and budget now wants to solve the home mortgage crisis. But legislators need to realize that government has only limited power to forestall foreclosures — and that political grandstanding could easily add to the financial carnage.
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez, D-Los Angeles, and other legislative Democrats last week called for a special session of the Legislature to address mortgage foreclosures. The Democrats unveiled a package of proposals to address the crisis, including measures to tighten restrictions on lending practices.
Such proposals would do little to stem the tide of foreclosures, however. Government cannot change the terms of existing loans; only lenders and borrowers can agree to restructure the loans, which many are already doing. The legislation could only affect future mortgages, not the many loans in danger of default now.
And existing mortgages are the real crisis, especially the higher-cost subprime loans offered to people with poor credit. Democrats said foreclosures on subprime loans from 2005-06 could cost the state $3 billion in property taxes and $1 billion in sales and transfer taxes. Foreclosures have hit the Inland region at a rate of 1 out of every 43 homes since July, and a report released last week by the U.S. Conference of Mayors said the housing slump could cost the region $2.3 billion.
But about all politicians can really do is inform borrowers of their rights and cajole lenders into renegotiating payment terms. Gov. Schwarzenegger’s November agreement with four lenders, for example, mostly amounted to a promise to freeze interest rates on adjustable rate mortgages to keep homeowners out of default. And that voluntary effort only covers about a fourth of the 500,000 subprime loans in California.
The Democrats’ proposals include ending incentives for lenders to push high-cost subprime loans onto borrowers who could qualify for cheaper mortgages, and requiring lenders to verify that a borrower has the means to repay a loan. And the package includes a ban on prepayment penalties — fees on borrowers for repaying a loan early, which discourage refinancing.
But reining in abusive lending practices is not as clear-cut as politicians might think. Many of the mortgage deals now under scrutiny exist to help more people qualify for money to buy homes. Restrictions that protect consumers at the expense of drying up credit would deprive many Californians of any chance to own a home.
Nor does government have the responsibility rescue people from their own reckless financial decisions. Not everyone facing foreclosure is a victim of unethical lenders; some just exercised poor judgment.
The issue calls for a light touch and a carefully calibrated balance, neither of which has been a hallmark of California’s polarized Legislature.
The surge in foreclosures creates heavy personal and public costs, certainly. But wise legislators will understand that government can at best be only a bit player in this tragedy, and will not dangerously overplay their role.
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December 6, 2007 at 2:41 PM #110623
SHILOH
ParticipantI am very sick of all of them. Ivy league and all, the best and the brightest…what cr*p.
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December 6, 2007 at 2:41 PM #110741
SHILOH
ParticipantI am very sick of all of them. Ivy league and all, the best and the brightest…what cr*p.
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December 6, 2007 at 2:41 PM #110772
SHILOH
ParticipantI am very sick of all of them. Ivy league and all, the best and the brightest…what cr*p.
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December 6, 2007 at 2:41 PM #110785
SHILOH
ParticipantI am very sick of all of them. Ivy league and all, the best and the brightest…what cr*p.
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December 6, 2007 at 2:41 PM #110789
SHILOH
ParticipantI am very sick of all of them. Ivy league and all, the best and the brightest…what cr*p.
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