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October 13, 2016 at 1:38 AM #802171October 13, 2016 at 5:46 AM #802173The-ShovelerParticipant
LOL LOL !!!
All I have to say is you should have been coming of age in the 70’s and early 80’s LOLThe world is a much better place now trust me.
Where I do feel the boomers failed the millennials is being over protective helicopter parents and creating the nanny state.
It left them unprepared I think for the harsher realities of the real world.October 13, 2016 at 6:54 AM #802175scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=yamashi][quote=scaredyclassic]they seem to reject the idea of “gender”, and believe it is fluid, for starters.[/quote]
?? Excuse me? Gender like male and female? fluid…what?[/quote]yep. Half of Millennials Believe Gender Isn’t Just Male Or Female.
57 perc of 18 to 34 y.o. women said gender exists on a spectrum (that is to say, fluid, or not fixed).
crazy, man…
im old. i think men and women are fundamentally different, and that difference really matters. if that makes me grampa simpson, so be it. i just feel like that sentiment, that men and womenen are more alike than different, is new, different and …. not reality…
October 13, 2016 at 7:08 AM #802177AnonymousGuestDon’t mess with those kids running the streets of Rancho Santa Fe.
October 13, 2016 at 7:35 AM #802178scaredyclassicParticipanttheyre also really against slut shaming.
im neutral to pro slut shaming, a relic of a bygone pre amy schumer period. actually, the entirety of all covilization, except for a few free love hippies and i think some strange 1800s religious cults. but this “slut shaming is sexist” is new.
its related to fluid gender roles, i think…
October 13, 2016 at 7:40 AM #802176scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=flyer]I can’t speak for all Boomers, and, fortunately I don’t know any of the type that have been described by other posters, but I’m sure many Boomers fulfill the negative definitions that have been posted here, just as many Millenials fulfill the negative definitions many hold about them.
That said, I can only speak for the lifestyle my friends and family embrace, which is one that puts family, friends and other chosen priorities first (and, believe me, none of my children ran the streets of Rancho Santa Fe when they were being raised here); created multiple sources of passive of income at a very early age, so we have been able to spend our time as we choose most of our lives–doing the things that are most important to us without financial concern–as well as creating a legacy for our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, etc.–all without long commutes, or becoming needy, and with more love than we could ever want if we were to live to be a thousand.[/quote]
you cannot create a legacy for great grandchildren unborn, if i recall. something about the rule against perpetuities…all we can do is hope the next generation doesnt blow it..
.weve had the rule against perpetuities for hundreds of years…but these millenials probably think its a fluid concept. crazy kids…
the rule states: “No interest is good unless it must vest, if at all, not later than twenty-one years after the death of some life in being at the creation of the interest.”
but im not an estate lawyer. rule is probably different in calif. see a specialist 4 details….
October 13, 2016 at 7:45 AM #802179scaredyclassicParticipantold people like me in general think theyre more liberal and openminded than they really are. for instance, this fox news article
about furious parents over school plan to teach gender fluidity has me saying, yep, right on, even though in my mind, i think i despise fox news.
oldness. it sucks.
im gonna try to be more openminded.
October 13, 2016 at 7:55 AM #802180scaredyclassicParticipantexcept about tattoos. i HATE tattoos. 40 percent of the dang millenials have tattoos! its ridiculous. i cant stand the marking of the human body. not just because it is contrary to the Torah and jewish tradition. i just think its distespectful to the body.
The source of this prohibition is Leviticus 19:28: “You shall not etch a tattoo on yourselves.” does tradition mean nothing to these people? G-d says dont scribble on your bodies! why must you deface the holy vessel that is your body?!
i would like to see tattoos discouraged, perhaps with a large tax …
October 13, 2016 at 8:08 AM #802181scaredyclassicParticipantyeah, the oneida community, founded in1848, weird christian cult, had no slut shaming at all. but i like them, because the results of sex were shared communally….
oneida… they are the silverware people. crazy bit of history…. from wikipedia:
Complex marriage E
The Oneida community believed strongly in a system of free love known as complex marriage,[5] where any member was free to have sex with any other who consented.[6] Possessiveness and exclusive relationships were frowned upon.[7] Unlike 20th-century social movements such as the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s, the Oneidans did not seek consequence-free sex for pleasure, but believed that, because the natural outcome of intercourse was pregnancy, raising children should be a communal responsibility. Women over the age of 40 were to act as sexual “mentors” to adolescent boys, as these relationships had minimal chance of conceiving. Furthermore, these women became religious role models for the young men. Likewise, older men often introduced young women to sex. Noyes often used his own judgment in determining the partnerships that would form, and would often encourage relationships between the non-devout and the devout in the community, in the hopes that the attitudes and behaviors of the devout would influence the non-devout.[8]In 1993, the archives of the community were made available to scholars for the first time. Contained within the archives was the journal of Tirzah Miller,[9] Noyes’ niece, who wrote extensively about her romantic and sexual relations with other members of Oneida.[1]
dammit. now i cant stop thinking about the oneida community. heres a book i gotta get…
October 13, 2016 at 8:30 AM #802182zkParticipant[quote=flyer]
brag brag brag
all without…becoming needy
brag brag brag[/quote]
Your claim of not being needy is belied by your constant bragging.
October 13, 2016 at 8:31 AM #802183njtosdParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]theyre also really against slut shaming.
im neutral to pro slut shaming, a relic of a bygone pre amy schumer period. actually, the entirety of all covilization, except for a few free love hippies and i think some strange 1800s religious cults. but this “slut shaming is sexist” is new.
its related to fluid gender roles, i think…[/quote]
Similarly – there is next to no dress code in our high school. Idea is that if someone is distracted by a (usually) girl’s outfit, that’s the distractee’s problem, not the distractor. Daughter said she saw a number of girls wearing a bikini top under an open denim vest at school. Girls say dress code about shorts length etc is sexist. Son doesn’t think that it’s a big deal. It seems like there’s no forbidden fruit anymore and they are all bored.
In olden days, a glimpse of stocking
Was looked on as something shocking.
But now, God knows,
Anything goes.
Good authors too who once knew better words
Now only use four-letter words
Writing prose.
Anything goes.I guess all generations have felt the same way ….
October 13, 2016 at 8:36 AM #802184Balboa_AgainParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]
im neutral to pro slut shaming … but this “slut shaming is sexist” is new.
[/quote]Scaredy, are you trolling here? Just yesterday you brought us
[quote=scaredyclassic]if most men could have sex with any woman at any time, they likely would have sex several times per day with different women.
if this is our nature, why is his expression of it so repugnant?[/quote]
If sexual behavior is human nature, why is any human’s consensual expression of it to be shamed? Why specifically women’s expression?
When you divide the world’s population in half according to sex and declare particular behavior permissible for one half and to be punished if engaged in by the other half, it is irrefutably sexist.
October 13, 2016 at 8:39 AM #802185scaredyclassicParticipant…shit…youre right…
October 13, 2016 at 9:14 AM #802186NotCrankyParticipantScaredy, you do know that the ADL is behind this gender fluidity idea? In learning about that I also learned that the notion and creation of “hate crime” was pushed through by same group. Could be wrong but that’s how I read it.
Hate crime is also something that just doesn’t compute for me, like gender fluidity to you.
I kind of get gender fluidity. Personality and life experience and cultural expectations, stuff like that can most obviously strongly affect what people adjust well to, or don’t , at least as much as birth gender. I mean to go as far as what we do, no gender stereo types needed. But I think it actually means something closer to being male for a while and then female for a while, which is pretty funny. I heard one kid say he watched some movie and was gay for two weeks afterwards. Kind of makes sense. Why else would we prohibit boys from wearing pink?
Anyway, I have looked online at the ADL program that kids are getting across this great nation. It’s called No Room for Hate. Is basically marketed as sensitivity training. I think there are federal requirements to be met by the schools, but I am not sure. I have the glossary of terms and a loaded word search puzzle from the a seminar conducted at the La Jolla Jewish Community center for my son’s middle school.
Needless to say, I think the program is way over the top and has elements of programming and even grooming of children as much as taming their tendencies to abuse others for their differences. By grooming , I mean in the sexual context and as well as for winning their hearts and minds for political reasons.
October 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM #802188millennialParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]LOL LOL !!!
All I have to say is you should have been coming of age in the 70’s and early 80’s LOLThe world is a much better place now trust me.
Where I do feel the boomers failed the millennials is being over protective helicopter parents and creating the nanny state.
It left them unprepared I think for the harsher realities of the real world.[/quote]You are correct that the world is a much better place due to amazing new technologies such as internet, and alternative energy, but we have many issues that your generation left behind. We will find a way to fix it and move forward, but not without removing Boomers from places of power (eg. politics/upper management).
Boomers never failed millennials by nurturing them. I think that you underestimate us since we display compassion, and think differently. Instead of digging a hole, we will create a machine to dig it for us, or we will create an app that will source the labor from people who like digging holes. We have a lot of grit and if necessary will rise above any challenge.
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