Average SD family 2000 vs 2010

[CA renter]

[quote=AN]CAR, using your example of 120k in 2000 and 205k in 2010 AND using the interest rate of 2000 vs interest rate of 2010, the monthly payment (PIT) was $825/month while the PIT in 2010 would be $1084/month. The monthly payment has risen 31.4% over the last 10 years.

Using your income data you posted, such individual in 98/99 would be bringing home $3624.66/month (assume single filing). A similar individual in 09/10 would be bringing home $4855.25/month. That equate to 34% rise in net income and a 31.4% rise in monthly mortgage payment.

The individual in 98/99 would be paying 22.7% of their net pay for the house. While the individual in 09/10 would be paying 22.3% of their net pay for the house. It doesn’t seem to outrageous to me.

Do you have data to back up the statement of the bottom 50% of our society is far worse off today than in 2000? The data I’m seeing is not lining up w/ this statement.[/quote]

Perhaps I’m crazy, but I think we ought to look at the total cost of things, not the monthly payment. That’s how we got in this mess to begin with.

[ILoveRegulation]

There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.

[ILoveRegulation]

There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.

[ILoveRegulation]

There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.

[ILoveRegulation]

There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.

[ILoveRegulation]

There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.

[jpinpb]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.[/quote]

Thank you for that link. That seems more in line w/my experience and that of people I know. Actually, maybe worse b/c that’s not factoring the unemployed. I know one that is still not working in over a year. Another actually got a part time job after being unemployed over a year and during that time was able to finda full time one and another one is still working part time after being unemployed for over a year previously. All of them were working full time 10 years ago. I just added another friend who 4 months ago got a promotion. Last month became unemployed.

Going by the circle of people I know, that does not indicate they’re better off than 10 years ago.

[jpinpb]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.[/quote]

Thank you for that link. That seems more in line w/my experience and that of people I know. Actually, maybe worse b/c that’s not factoring the unemployed. I know one that is still not working in over a year. Another actually got a part time job after being unemployed over a year and during that time was able to finda full time one and another one is still working part time after being unemployed for over a year previously. All of them were working full time 10 years ago. I just added another friend who 4 months ago got a promotion. Last month became unemployed.

Going by the circle of people I know, that does not indicate they’re better off than 10 years ago.

[jpinpb]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.[/quote]

Thank you for that link. That seems more in line w/my experience and that of people I know. Actually, maybe worse b/c that’s not factoring the unemployed. I know one that is still not working in over a year. Another actually got a part time job after being unemployed over a year and during that time was able to finda full time one and another one is still working part time after being unemployed for over a year previously. All of them were working full time 10 years ago. I just added another friend who 4 months ago got a promotion. Last month became unemployed.

Going by the circle of people I know, that does not indicate they’re better off than 10 years ago.

[jpinpb]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.[/quote]

Thank you for that link. That seems more in line w/my experience and that of people I know. Actually, maybe worse b/c that’s not factoring the unemployed. I know one that is still not working in over a year. Another actually got a part time job after being unemployed over a year and during that time was able to finda full time one and another one is still working part time after being unemployed for over a year previously. All of them were working full time 10 years ago. I just added another friend who 4 months ago got a promotion. Last month became unemployed.

Going by the circle of people I know, that does not indicate they’re better off than 10 years ago.

[jpinpb]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]There’s a reason why the original post feels like bullsh!t. Because it is!

Here’s the real data with a link.

Median household income (SD County 2000): $60,610
Median household income (SD County 2009): $60,231

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/sep/28/household-income-plunges-in-sd-county/

California as a whole had an even bigger drop than San Diego County.

Be very skeptical of any post made by one of the many right-wing nuts who post here. If they don’t provide a link backing up what they say, assume they pulled their ‘facts’ right out of their ass.[/quote]

Thank you for that link. That seems more in line w/my experience and that of people I know. Actually, maybe worse b/c that’s not factoring the unemployed. I know one that is still not working in over a year. Another actually got a part time job after being unemployed over a year and during that time was able to finda full time one and another one is still working part time after being unemployed for over a year previously. All of them were working full time 10 years ago. I just added another friend who 4 months ago got a promotion. Last month became unemployed.

Going by the circle of people I know, that does not indicate they’re better off than 10 years ago.

[sdrealtor]

I dont think An pulled those facts out of his ass. They are right there on http://www.sandag.org website. Who you chose to beleive depends upon where you sit. The sandag numbers show income in 2009 adju to 1999 dollars is up around 10% the places I checked (region, carlsbad & encinitas). I wouldnt be so quick to discredit those numbers just because they didnt fit my picture of the world nor would I accept them at face value because they do.

Beleive half of what you see and none of what of you read.

[sdrealtor]

I dont think An pulled those facts out of his ass. They are right there on http://www.sandag.org website. Who you chose to beleive depends upon where you sit. The sandag numbers show income in 2009 adju to 1999 dollars is up around 10% the places I checked (region, carlsbad & encinitas). I wouldnt be so quick to discredit those numbers just because they didnt fit my picture of the world nor would I accept them at face value because they do.

Beleive half of what you see and none of what of you read.

[sdrealtor]

I dont think An pulled those facts out of his ass. They are right there on http://www.sandag.org website. Who you chose to beleive depends upon where you sit. The sandag numbers show income in 2009 adju to 1999 dollars is up around 10% the places I checked (region, carlsbad & encinitas). I wouldnt be so quick to discredit those numbers just because they didnt fit my picture of the world nor would I accept them at face value because they do.

Beleive half of what you see and none of what of you read.

[sdrealtor]

I dont think An pulled those facts out of his ass. They are right there on http://www.sandag.org website. Who you chose to beleive depends upon where you sit. The sandag numbers show income in 2009 adju to 1999 dollars is up around 10% the places I checked (region, carlsbad & encinitas). I wouldnt be so quick to discredit those numbers just because they didnt fit my picture of the world nor would I accept them at face value because they do.

Beleive half of what you see and none of what of you read.

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