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March 30, 2008 at 6:02 PM #12288
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March 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM #178521
kewp
ParticipantLet me know when I don’t have to pay rent anymore.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:37 PM #178548
PadreBrian
ParticipantWTF. A city council has ZERO say in the matter. Bush will have to step in and let them know this.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:34 PM #178585
jpinpb
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM #178592
pka4lif
ParticipantIf the Sherriff doesn’t evict people what are the banks going to do?
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March 30, 2008 at 9:08 PM #178603
PadreBrian
ParticipantThey will stop issuing loans in that area. That’s what. Basically the US turns into a 3rd world country. Brazil did this and economic chaos took over. Bush will have to stop it, he can have a judge over turn it…and send national guard troops if things get out of hand.
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March 30, 2008 at 9:30 PM #178617
waiting hawk
Participantlol ya you would be telling lenders that they cannot assume thier assets while it loses more value while waiting to reach a payment agreement with someone that wont even call you. Last I checked ~50% of all people in foreclosure never even call them. I hope California takes this on as lenders wont lend in these areas createing a cash only demand. Sign me up!
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March 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM #178676
Stradivarius
ParticipantI moved to SD from Philly about a year ago (don’t worry, renting), so the result of this overly bold maneuver may affect the welfare of my friends and family who reside there.
It seems that most of these foreclosures are doomed for eventual sale anyway, so isn’t it just postponing the inevitable? And when this “unspecified period” ends, is there going to be a huge flood of foreclosures that have been backed up the entire time? Unconstitutional or not, this order doesn’t seem to help borrowers or lenders in the long run. It’s like putting a band-aid on a volcano.
Please enlighten me if I am thinking incorrectly; I am not very experienced in this field.
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March 31, 2008 at 1:34 AM #178681
temeculaguy
ParticipantAnother city tried to make a regulation about home loans a few years back, I think it was in the South and it was something to do with not allowing banks to charge PMI or something. The result was three months where not a single loan was approved and national lenders just refused to loan money to people in that area. The locality gave up after they realized they were doing more harm than good and they can’t legislate private companies into losing money.
Philly will cause the same thing to happen, no new loans will be initiated because the lenders will have no options if they arent paid back, they will just blacklist Philly. Those who are only mildly struggling, making their payments but needing to refi out of a toxic loan will be turned down because of their wacky city council, I give it 90 days, tops.
This is not the first time a government entity had tried to deny the invisible hand of economics, it’s never worked before and it wont work now.
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March 31, 2008 at 6:31 AM #178696
EconProf
ParticipantBobS
This is insane. Investors and lenders worldwide will run, not walk, away from US mortgages. The risk premium built into interest rates will naturally rise for homebuyers. ACORN and other feel good liberals will do great harm to lower and middle income families who seek to become homeowners. -
March 31, 2008 at 7:00 AM #178702
peterb
ParticipantWith no financing available….prices will really tank. Cash will be king. Hey, maybe the US $ will be worth something after all?
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March 31, 2008 at 7:00 AM #179063
peterb
ParticipantWith no financing available….prices will really tank. Cash will be king. Hey, maybe the US $ will be worth something after all?
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March 31, 2008 at 7:00 AM #179071
peterb
ParticipantWith no financing available….prices will really tank. Cash will be king. Hey, maybe the US $ will be worth something after all?
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March 31, 2008 at 7:00 AM #179078
peterb
ParticipantWith no financing available….prices will really tank. Cash will be king. Hey, maybe the US $ will be worth something after all?
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March 31, 2008 at 7:00 AM #179159
peterb
ParticipantWith no financing available….prices will really tank. Cash will be king. Hey, maybe the US $ will be worth something after all?
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March 31, 2008 at 6:31 AM #179058
EconProf
ParticipantBobS
This is insane. Investors and lenders worldwide will run, not walk, away from US mortgages. The risk premium built into interest rates will naturally rise for homebuyers. ACORN and other feel good liberals will do great harm to lower and middle income families who seek to become homeowners. -
March 31, 2008 at 6:31 AM #179065
EconProf
ParticipantBobS
This is insane. Investors and lenders worldwide will run, not walk, away from US mortgages. The risk premium built into interest rates will naturally rise for homebuyers. ACORN and other feel good liberals will do great harm to lower and middle income families who seek to become homeowners. -
March 31, 2008 at 6:31 AM #179074
EconProf
ParticipantBobS
This is insane. Investors and lenders worldwide will run, not walk, away from US mortgages. The risk premium built into interest rates will naturally rise for homebuyers. ACORN and other feel good liberals will do great harm to lower and middle income families who seek to become homeowners. -
March 31, 2008 at 6:31 AM #179154
EconProf
ParticipantBobS
This is insane. Investors and lenders worldwide will run, not walk, away from US mortgages. The risk premium built into interest rates will naturally rise for homebuyers. ACORN and other feel good liberals will do great harm to lower and middle income families who seek to become homeowners. -
March 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM #178808
equalizer
ParticipantTG,
Philadelphia Ordinance An ordinance banning predatory lending, banning public investment in predatory lenders, and requiring loan counseling for borrowers of high-cost loans was passed by the unanimous vote of the Philadelphia City Council in April 2001. It was overturned by state legislation in June 2001.
A working reseach paper looked into loan laws: "State and Local Anti-Predatory Lending Laws: The Effect of Legal Enforcement Mechanisms" http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1005423 Very detailed analysis shows that laws have some effect, but do NOT drive out supply. North Carolina's tough law did not reduce supply overall, for people under 50K, yes it did, for people over 50K income, supply went up.
There was a story in WSJ last month about parties to blame for the loan mess. A few members of Congress tried for some regulation of mortgage industry as did some states. The housing lobby killed all bills and the one that did pass in one state, the lending industy BLACKMAILED the state to repeal the bill. So, this bill may be junk, but it happened becuase the lobby killed good bills years back. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120406115972594515.html
GA had the tough anti-predatory law that would place buyer of predatory loan at risk (aks stolen property) and S&P and Fitch blackmailed the state so they watered it down. Funny how S&P and Fitch were WHOLLY resposible for this subprime mess, yet they interefered with state law that would likely have reduced the mess in the first place. http://econospeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/regulatory-neglect-and-subprime.html
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March 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM #178828
temeculaguy
ParticipantSee that’s why I need not post things past midnight after a night of drinking, but thank you for the links equlizer. All of them make valid points but my economic beliefs are vintage Adam Smith. Lobbyists, corporate evildoers will be had by karma as will the fb’s. Government over-control of markets always fails, blackmailing or however you want to paint it, it’s still a defense to meddling in the market as much as it was meddling itself and it never works for either side. Lenders that took risks are licking their wounds right now, borrowers who shouldn’t have are doing the same, who are you to prevent them from learning lessons, there were no gun pointed at anyone’s head and that is when the gov’t should step in, not before.
Lets say every locality could adopt protectionist mortgage rules, would that benefit you and I, no it wont. The government cannot make stupid people smart, it cannot eliminate risk and it certainly cannot control markets without penalty.
All human situations have their inconveniences. We feel those of the present but neither see nor feel those of the future; and hence we often make troublesome changes without amendment, and frequently for the worse. -Benjamin Franklin
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March 31, 2008 at 1:08 PM #178847
Aecetia
ParticipantWhen businesses were burned in the L.A. riots, many did not return. I think this is in effect the same tactic, but this time the businesses are being burned by the government. I think the outcome will be the same. They will leave and not return until the law changes.
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March 31, 2008 at 1:08 PM #179212
Aecetia
ParticipantWhen businesses were burned in the L.A. riots, many did not return. I think this is in effect the same tactic, but this time the businesses are being burned by the government. I think the outcome will be the same. They will leave and not return until the law changes.
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March 31, 2008 at 1:08 PM #179220
Aecetia
ParticipantWhen businesses were burned in the L.A. riots, many did not return. I think this is in effect the same tactic, but this time the businesses are being burned by the government. I think the outcome will be the same. They will leave and not return until the law changes.
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March 31, 2008 at 1:08 PM #179229
Aecetia
ParticipantWhen businesses were burned in the L.A. riots, many did not return. I think this is in effect the same tactic, but this time the businesses are being burned by the government. I think the outcome will be the same. They will leave and not return until the law changes.
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March 31, 2008 at 1:08 PM #179305
Aecetia
ParticipantWhen businesses were burned in the L.A. riots, many did not return. I think this is in effect the same tactic, but this time the businesses are being burned by the government. I think the outcome will be the same. They will leave and not return until the law changes.
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March 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM #179192
temeculaguy
ParticipantSee that’s why I need not post things past midnight after a night of drinking, but thank you for the links equlizer. All of them make valid points but my economic beliefs are vintage Adam Smith. Lobbyists, corporate evildoers will be had by karma as will the fb’s. Government over-control of markets always fails, blackmailing or however you want to paint it, it’s still a defense to meddling in the market as much as it was meddling itself and it never works for either side. Lenders that took risks are licking their wounds right now, borrowers who shouldn’t have are doing the same, who are you to prevent them from learning lessons, there were no gun pointed at anyone’s head and that is when the gov’t should step in, not before.
Lets say every locality could adopt protectionist mortgage rules, would that benefit you and I, no it wont. The government cannot make stupid people smart, it cannot eliminate risk and it certainly cannot control markets without penalty.
All human situations have their inconveniences. We feel those of the present but neither see nor feel those of the future; and hence we often make troublesome changes without amendment, and frequently for the worse. -Benjamin Franklin
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March 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM #179201
temeculaguy
ParticipantSee that’s why I need not post things past midnight after a night of drinking, but thank you for the links equlizer. All of them make valid points but my economic beliefs are vintage Adam Smith. Lobbyists, corporate evildoers will be had by karma as will the fb’s. Government over-control of markets always fails, blackmailing or however you want to paint it, it’s still a defense to meddling in the market as much as it was meddling itself and it never works for either side. Lenders that took risks are licking their wounds right now, borrowers who shouldn’t have are doing the same, who are you to prevent them from learning lessons, there were no gun pointed at anyone’s head and that is when the gov’t should step in, not before.
Lets say every locality could adopt protectionist mortgage rules, would that benefit you and I, no it wont. The government cannot make stupid people smart, it cannot eliminate risk and it certainly cannot control markets without penalty.
All human situations have their inconveniences. We feel those of the present but neither see nor feel those of the future; and hence we often make troublesome changes without amendment, and frequently for the worse. -Benjamin Franklin
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March 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM #179209
temeculaguy
ParticipantSee that’s why I need not post things past midnight after a night of drinking, but thank you for the links equlizer. All of them make valid points but my economic beliefs are vintage Adam Smith. Lobbyists, corporate evildoers will be had by karma as will the fb’s. Government over-control of markets always fails, blackmailing or however you want to paint it, it’s still a defense to meddling in the market as much as it was meddling itself and it never works for either side. Lenders that took risks are licking their wounds right now, borrowers who shouldn’t have are doing the same, who are you to prevent them from learning lessons, there were no gun pointed at anyone’s head and that is when the gov’t should step in, not before.
Lets say every locality could adopt protectionist mortgage rules, would that benefit you and I, no it wont. The government cannot make stupid people smart, it cannot eliminate risk and it certainly cannot control markets without penalty.
All human situations have their inconveniences. We feel those of the present but neither see nor feel those of the future; and hence we often make troublesome changes without amendment, and frequently for the worse. -Benjamin Franklin
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March 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM #179286
temeculaguy
ParticipantSee that’s why I need not post things past midnight after a night of drinking, but thank you for the links equlizer. All of them make valid points but my economic beliefs are vintage Adam Smith. Lobbyists, corporate evildoers will be had by karma as will the fb’s. Government over-control of markets always fails, blackmailing or however you want to paint it, it’s still a defense to meddling in the market as much as it was meddling itself and it never works for either side. Lenders that took risks are licking their wounds right now, borrowers who shouldn’t have are doing the same, who are you to prevent them from learning lessons, there were no gun pointed at anyone’s head and that is when the gov’t should step in, not before.
Lets say every locality could adopt protectionist mortgage rules, would that benefit you and I, no it wont. The government cannot make stupid people smart, it cannot eliminate risk and it certainly cannot control markets without penalty.
All human situations have their inconveniences. We feel those of the present but neither see nor feel those of the future; and hence we often make troublesome changes without amendment, and frequently for the worse. -Benjamin Franklin
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March 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM #179172
equalizer
ParticipantTG,
Philadelphia Ordinance An ordinance banning predatory lending, banning public investment in predatory lenders, and requiring loan counseling for borrowers of high-cost loans was passed by the unanimous vote of the Philadelphia City Council in April 2001. It was overturned by state legislation in June 2001.
A working reseach paper looked into loan laws: "State and Local Anti-Predatory Lending Laws: The Effect of Legal Enforcement Mechanisms" http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1005423 Very detailed analysis shows that laws have some effect, but do NOT drive out supply. North Carolina's tough law did not reduce supply overall, for people under 50K, yes it did, for people over 50K income, supply went up.
There was a story in WSJ last month about parties to blame for the loan mess. A few members of Congress tried for some regulation of mortgage industry as did some states. The housing lobby killed all bills and the one that did pass in one state, the lending industy BLACKMAILED the state to repeal the bill. So, this bill may be junk, but it happened becuase the lobby killed good bills years back. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120406115972594515.html
GA had the tough anti-predatory law that would place buyer of predatory loan at risk (aks stolen property) and S&P and Fitch blackmailed the state so they watered it down. Funny how S&P and Fitch were WHOLLY resposible for this subprime mess, yet they interefered with state law that would likely have reduced the mess in the first place. http://econospeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/regulatory-neglect-and-subprime.html
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March 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM #179180
equalizer
ParticipantTG,
Philadelphia Ordinance An ordinance banning predatory lending, banning public investment in predatory lenders, and requiring loan counseling for borrowers of high-cost loans was passed by the unanimous vote of the Philadelphia City Council in April 2001. It was overturned by state legislation in June 2001.
A working reseach paper looked into loan laws: "State and Local Anti-Predatory Lending Laws: The Effect of Legal Enforcement Mechanisms" http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1005423 Very detailed analysis shows that laws have some effect, but do NOT drive out supply. North Carolina's tough law did not reduce supply overall, for people under 50K, yes it did, for people over 50K income, supply went up.
There was a story in WSJ last month about parties to blame for the loan mess. A few members of Congress tried for some regulation of mortgage industry as did some states. The housing lobby killed all bills and the one that did pass in one state, the lending industy BLACKMAILED the state to repeal the bill. So, this bill may be junk, but it happened becuase the lobby killed good bills years back. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120406115972594515.html
GA had the tough anti-predatory law that would place buyer of predatory loan at risk (aks stolen property) and S&P and Fitch blackmailed the state so they watered it down. Funny how S&P and Fitch were WHOLLY resposible for this subprime mess, yet they interefered with state law that would likely have reduced the mess in the first place. http://econospeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/regulatory-neglect-and-subprime.html
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March 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM #179188
equalizer
ParticipantTG,
Philadelphia Ordinance An ordinance banning predatory lending, banning public investment in predatory lenders, and requiring loan counseling for borrowers of high-cost loans was passed by the unanimous vote of the Philadelphia City Council in April 2001. It was overturned by state legislation in June 2001.
A working reseach paper looked into loan laws: "State and Local Anti-Predatory Lending Laws: The Effect of Legal Enforcement Mechanisms" http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1005423 Very detailed analysis shows that laws have some effect, but do NOT drive out supply. North Carolina's tough law did not reduce supply overall, for people under 50K, yes it did, for people over 50K income, supply went up.
There was a story in WSJ last month about parties to blame for the loan mess. A few members of Congress tried for some regulation of mortgage industry as did some states. The housing lobby killed all bills and the one that did pass in one state, the lending industy BLACKMAILED the state to repeal the bill. So, this bill may be junk, but it happened becuase the lobby killed good bills years back. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120406115972594515.html
GA had the tough anti-predatory law that would place buyer of predatory loan at risk (aks stolen property) and S&P and Fitch blackmailed the state so they watered it down. Funny how S&P and Fitch were WHOLLY resposible for this subprime mess, yet they interefered with state law that would likely have reduced the mess in the first place. http://econospeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/regulatory-neglect-and-subprime.html
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March 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM #179266
equalizer
ParticipantTG,
Philadelphia Ordinance An ordinance banning predatory lending, banning public investment in predatory lenders, and requiring loan counseling for borrowers of high-cost loans was passed by the unanimous vote of the Philadelphia City Council in April 2001. It was overturned by state legislation in June 2001.
A working reseach paper looked into loan laws: "State and Local Anti-Predatory Lending Laws: The Effect of Legal Enforcement Mechanisms" http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1005423 Very detailed analysis shows that laws have some effect, but do NOT drive out supply. North Carolina's tough law did not reduce supply overall, for people under 50K, yes it did, for people over 50K income, supply went up.
There was a story in WSJ last month about parties to blame for the loan mess. A few members of Congress tried for some regulation of mortgage industry as did some states. The housing lobby killed all bills and the one that did pass in one state, the lending industy BLACKMAILED the state to repeal the bill. So, this bill may be junk, but it happened becuase the lobby killed good bills years back. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120406115972594515.html
GA had the tough anti-predatory law that would place buyer of predatory loan at risk (aks stolen property) and S&P and Fitch blackmailed the state so they watered it down. Funny how S&P and Fitch were WHOLLY resposible for this subprime mess, yet they interefered with state law that would likely have reduced the mess in the first place. http://econospeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/regulatory-neglect-and-subprime.html
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March 31, 2008 at 1:34 AM #179044
temeculaguy
ParticipantAnother city tried to make a regulation about home loans a few years back, I think it was in the South and it was something to do with not allowing banks to charge PMI or something. The result was three months where not a single loan was approved and national lenders just refused to loan money to people in that area. The locality gave up after they realized they were doing more harm than good and they can’t legislate private companies into losing money.
Philly will cause the same thing to happen, no new loans will be initiated because the lenders will have no options if they arent paid back, they will just blacklist Philly. Those who are only mildly struggling, making their payments but needing to refi out of a toxic loan will be turned down because of their wacky city council, I give it 90 days, tops.
This is not the first time a government entity had tried to deny the invisible hand of economics, it’s never worked before and it wont work now.
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March 31, 2008 at 1:34 AM #179052
temeculaguy
ParticipantAnother city tried to make a regulation about home loans a few years back, I think it was in the South and it was something to do with not allowing banks to charge PMI or something. The result was three months where not a single loan was approved and national lenders just refused to loan money to people in that area. The locality gave up after they realized they were doing more harm than good and they can’t legislate private companies into losing money.
Philly will cause the same thing to happen, no new loans will be initiated because the lenders will have no options if they arent paid back, they will just blacklist Philly. Those who are only mildly struggling, making their payments but needing to refi out of a toxic loan will be turned down because of their wacky city council, I give it 90 days, tops.
This is not the first time a government entity had tried to deny the invisible hand of economics, it’s never worked before and it wont work now.
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March 31, 2008 at 1:34 AM #179059
temeculaguy
ParticipantAnother city tried to make a regulation about home loans a few years back, I think it was in the South and it was something to do with not allowing banks to charge PMI or something. The result was three months where not a single loan was approved and national lenders just refused to loan money to people in that area. The locality gave up after they realized they were doing more harm than good and they can’t legislate private companies into losing money.
Philly will cause the same thing to happen, no new loans will be initiated because the lenders will have no options if they arent paid back, they will just blacklist Philly. Those who are only mildly struggling, making their payments but needing to refi out of a toxic loan will be turned down because of their wacky city council, I give it 90 days, tops.
This is not the first time a government entity had tried to deny the invisible hand of economics, it’s never worked before and it wont work now.
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March 31, 2008 at 1:34 AM #179139
temeculaguy
ParticipantAnother city tried to make a regulation about home loans a few years back, I think it was in the South and it was something to do with not allowing banks to charge PMI or something. The result was three months where not a single loan was approved and national lenders just refused to loan money to people in that area. The locality gave up after they realized they were doing more harm than good and they can’t legislate private companies into losing money.
Philly will cause the same thing to happen, no new loans will be initiated because the lenders will have no options if they arent paid back, they will just blacklist Philly. Those who are only mildly struggling, making their payments but needing to refi out of a toxic loan will be turned down because of their wacky city council, I give it 90 days, tops.
This is not the first time a government entity had tried to deny the invisible hand of economics, it’s never worked before and it wont work now.
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March 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM #179039
Stradivarius
ParticipantI moved to SD from Philly about a year ago (don’t worry, renting), so the result of this overly bold maneuver may affect the welfare of my friends and family who reside there.
It seems that most of these foreclosures are doomed for eventual sale anyway, so isn’t it just postponing the inevitable? And when this “unspecified period” ends, is there going to be a huge flood of foreclosures that have been backed up the entire time? Unconstitutional or not, this order doesn’t seem to help borrowers or lenders in the long run. It’s like putting a band-aid on a volcano.
Please enlighten me if I am thinking incorrectly; I am not very experienced in this field.
-S
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March 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM #179046
Stradivarius
ParticipantI moved to SD from Philly about a year ago (don’t worry, renting), so the result of this overly bold maneuver may affect the welfare of my friends and family who reside there.
It seems that most of these foreclosures are doomed for eventual sale anyway, so isn’t it just postponing the inevitable? And when this “unspecified period” ends, is there going to be a huge flood of foreclosures that have been backed up the entire time? Unconstitutional or not, this order doesn’t seem to help borrowers or lenders in the long run. It’s like putting a band-aid on a volcano.
Please enlighten me if I am thinking incorrectly; I am not very experienced in this field.
-S
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March 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM #179053
Stradivarius
ParticipantI moved to SD from Philly about a year ago (don’t worry, renting), so the result of this overly bold maneuver may affect the welfare of my friends and family who reside there.
It seems that most of these foreclosures are doomed for eventual sale anyway, so isn’t it just postponing the inevitable? And when this “unspecified period” ends, is there going to be a huge flood of foreclosures that have been backed up the entire time? Unconstitutional or not, this order doesn’t seem to help borrowers or lenders in the long run. It’s like putting a band-aid on a volcano.
Please enlighten me if I am thinking incorrectly; I am not very experienced in this field.
-S
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March 31, 2008 at 12:47 AM #179134
Stradivarius
ParticipantI moved to SD from Philly about a year ago (don’t worry, renting), so the result of this overly bold maneuver may affect the welfare of my friends and family who reside there.
It seems that most of these foreclosures are doomed for eventual sale anyway, so isn’t it just postponing the inevitable? And when this “unspecified period” ends, is there going to be a huge flood of foreclosures that have been backed up the entire time? Unconstitutional or not, this order doesn’t seem to help borrowers or lenders in the long run. It’s like putting a band-aid on a volcano.
Please enlighten me if I am thinking incorrectly; I am not very experienced in this field.
-S
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March 30, 2008 at 9:30 PM #178978
waiting hawk
Participantlol ya you would be telling lenders that they cannot assume thier assets while it loses more value while waiting to reach a payment agreement with someone that wont even call you. Last I checked ~50% of all people in foreclosure never even call them. I hope California takes this on as lenders wont lend in these areas createing a cash only demand. Sign me up!
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March 30, 2008 at 9:30 PM #178986
waiting hawk
Participantlol ya you would be telling lenders that they cannot assume thier assets while it loses more value while waiting to reach a payment agreement with someone that wont even call you. Last I checked ~50% of all people in foreclosure never even call them. I hope California takes this on as lenders wont lend in these areas createing a cash only demand. Sign me up!
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March 30, 2008 at 9:30 PM #178993
waiting hawk
Participantlol ya you would be telling lenders that they cannot assume thier assets while it loses more value while waiting to reach a payment agreement with someone that wont even call you. Last I checked ~50% of all people in foreclosure never even call them. I hope California takes this on as lenders wont lend in these areas createing a cash only demand. Sign me up!
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March 30, 2008 at 9:30 PM #179072
waiting hawk
Participantlol ya you would be telling lenders that they cannot assume thier assets while it loses more value while waiting to reach a payment agreement with someone that wont even call you. Last I checked ~50% of all people in foreclosure never even call them. I hope California takes this on as lenders wont lend in these areas createing a cash only demand. Sign me up!
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March 30, 2008 at 9:08 PM #178964
PadreBrian
ParticipantThey will stop issuing loans in that area. That’s what. Basically the US turns into a 3rd world country. Brazil did this and economic chaos took over. Bush will have to stop it, he can have a judge over turn it…and send national guard troops if things get out of hand.
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March 30, 2008 at 9:08 PM #178970
PadreBrian
ParticipantThey will stop issuing loans in that area. That’s what. Basically the US turns into a 3rd world country. Brazil did this and economic chaos took over. Bush will have to stop it, he can have a judge over turn it…and send national guard troops if things get out of hand.
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March 30, 2008 at 9:08 PM #178979
PadreBrian
ParticipantThey will stop issuing loans in that area. That’s what. Basically the US turns into a 3rd world country. Brazil did this and economic chaos took over. Bush will have to stop it, he can have a judge over turn it…and send national guard troops if things get out of hand.
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March 30, 2008 at 9:08 PM #179055
PadreBrian
ParticipantThey will stop issuing loans in that area. That’s what. Basically the US turns into a 3rd world country. Brazil did this and economic chaos took over. Bush will have to stop it, he can have a judge over turn it…and send national guard troops if things get out of hand.
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March 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM #178789
Anonymous
GuestThe banks could start bouncing checks from the city council.
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March 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM #179151
Anonymous
GuestThe banks could start bouncing checks from the city council.
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March 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM #179160
Anonymous
GuestThe banks could start bouncing checks from the city council.
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March 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM #179168
Anonymous
GuestThe banks could start bouncing checks from the city council.
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March 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM #179246
Anonymous
GuestThe banks could start bouncing checks from the city council.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM #178953
pka4lif
ParticipantIf the Sherriff doesn’t evict people what are the banks going to do?
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March 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM #178960
pka4lif
ParticipantIf the Sherriff doesn’t evict people what are the banks going to do?
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March 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM #178969
pka4lif
ParticipantIf the Sherriff doesn’t evict people what are the banks going to do?
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March 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM #179047
pka4lif
ParticipantIf the Sherriff doesn’t evict people what are the banks going to do?
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March 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM #178598
sd-maybe
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
You’re onto something there, so these political opportunists had better tread carefully. When the responsible people who fullfill their obligations decide “why should I bother if every dirtbag gets bailed out” and decides to stop paying…then the entire system collapses…and the powers that be know it.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM #178958
sd-maybe
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
You’re onto something there, so these political opportunists had better tread carefully. When the responsible people who fullfill their obligations decide “why should I bother if every dirtbag gets bailed out” and decides to stop paying…then the entire system collapses…and the powers that be know it.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM #178965
sd-maybe
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
You’re onto something there, so these political opportunists had better tread carefully. When the responsible people who fullfill their obligations decide “why should I bother if every dirtbag gets bailed out” and decides to stop paying…then the entire system collapses…and the powers that be know it.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM #178974
sd-maybe
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
You’re onto something there, so these political opportunists had better tread carefully. When the responsible people who fullfill their obligations decide “why should I bother if every dirtbag gets bailed out” and decides to stop paying…then the entire system collapses…and the powers that be know it.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM #179050
sd-maybe
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
You’re onto something there, so these political opportunists had better tread carefully. When the responsible people who fullfill their obligations decide “why should I bother if every dirtbag gets bailed out” and decides to stop paying…then the entire system collapses…and the powers that be know it.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:34 PM #178948
jpinpb
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:34 PM #178955
jpinpb
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:34 PM #178963
jpinpb
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
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March 30, 2008 at 8:34 PM #179042
jpinpb
ParticipantWTF – right. This is BS. Unreal. I can’t believe this. What if all cities decide to do this. No $hit. I’ll stop paying rent. One BS strategy after another. Save the idiots. I have an idea so they won’t be homeless. Let’s throw them all in jail for fraud.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:37 PM #178906
PadreBrian
ParticipantWTF. A city council has ZERO say in the matter. Bush will have to step in and let them know this.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:37 PM #178915
PadreBrian
ParticipantWTF. A city council has ZERO say in the matter. Bush will have to step in and let them know this.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:37 PM #178924
PadreBrian
ParticipantWTF. A city council has ZERO say in the matter. Bush will have to step in and let them know this.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:37 PM #179001
PadreBrian
ParticipantWTF. A city council has ZERO say in the matter. Bush will have to step in and let them know this.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM #178881
kewp
ParticipantLet me know when I don’t have to pay rent anymore.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM #178890
kewp
ParticipantLet me know when I don’t have to pay rent anymore.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM #178899
kewp
ParticipantLet me know when I don’t have to pay rent anymore.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM #178977
kewp
ParticipantLet me know when I don’t have to pay rent anymore.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM #178531
Navydoc
ParticipantGosh, now I feel like an idiot. A few years ago my mother, who lives near Philly, was considering taking equity out of her home and I foolishly convinced her to pay it off! I hope she’s still talking to me…..
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March 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM #178891
Navydoc
ParticipantGosh, now I feel like an idiot. A few years ago my mother, who lives near Philly, was considering taking equity out of her home and I foolishly convinced her to pay it off! I hope she’s still talking to me…..
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March 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM #178900
Navydoc
ParticipantGosh, now I feel like an idiot. A few years ago my mother, who lives near Philly, was considering taking equity out of her home and I foolishly convinced her to pay it off! I hope she’s still talking to me…..
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March 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM #178909
Navydoc
ParticipantGosh, now I feel like an idiot. A few years ago my mother, who lives near Philly, was considering taking equity out of her home and I foolishly convinced her to pay it off! I hope she’s still talking to me…..
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March 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM #178987
Navydoc
ParticipantGosh, now I feel like an idiot. A few years ago my mother, who lives near Philly, was considering taking equity out of her home and I foolishly convinced her to pay it off! I hope she’s still talking to me…..
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March 30, 2008 at 6:28 PM #178536
sd-maybe
ParticipantI’m curious under what authority the city council of Philly can intervene in a loan contract…but no matter. I now have new material to bust my buddy’s chops who is from Philly, other than the Eagles never winning a superbowl.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:28 PM #178897
sd-maybe
ParticipantI’m curious under what authority the city council of Philly can intervene in a loan contract…but no matter. I now have new material to bust my buddy’s chops who is from Philly, other than the Eagles never winning a superbowl.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:28 PM #178905
sd-maybe
ParticipantI’m curious under what authority the city council of Philly can intervene in a loan contract…but no matter. I now have new material to bust my buddy’s chops who is from Philly, other than the Eagles never winning a superbowl.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:28 PM #178914
sd-maybe
ParticipantI’m curious under what authority the city council of Philly can intervene in a loan contract…but no matter. I now have new material to bust my buddy’s chops who is from Philly, other than the Eagles never winning a superbowl.
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March 30, 2008 at 6:28 PM #178992
sd-maybe
ParticipantI’m curious under what authority the city council of Philly can intervene in a loan contract…but no matter. I now have new material to bust my buddy’s chops who is from Philly, other than the Eagles never winning a superbowl.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:15 AM #178706
Arraya
ParticipantWhy are people so hell bent on keeping FBs paying on overpriced houses. Let them go rent and save money.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:25 AM #178716
Sandi Egan
ParticipantI think this is a political move.
Clinton called for a foreclosure moratorium many times. Ahead of PA primaries (where she leads and has a lot of supporters among Philly elected officials), it might be nice to show everybody how her policies could help people save their homes.
For better or worse, it will illustrate the sheer stupidity of the idea.
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March 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #178731
PadreBrian
ParticipantIf that’s the case Obama/McCain can use the fallout to show what clinton’s words will do.
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March 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #179094
PadreBrian
ParticipantIf that’s the case Obama/McCain can use the fallout to show what clinton’s words will do.
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March 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #179101
PadreBrian
ParticipantIf that’s the case Obama/McCain can use the fallout to show what clinton’s words will do.
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March 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #179110
PadreBrian
ParticipantIf that’s the case Obama/McCain can use the fallout to show what clinton’s words will do.
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March 31, 2008 at 8:19 AM #179189
PadreBrian
ParticipantIf that’s the case Obama/McCain can use the fallout to show what clinton’s words will do.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:25 AM #179079
Sandi Egan
ParticipantI think this is a political move.
Clinton called for a foreclosure moratorium many times. Ahead of PA primaries (where she leads and has a lot of supporters among Philly elected officials), it might be nice to show everybody how her policies could help people save their homes.
For better or worse, it will illustrate the sheer stupidity of the idea.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:25 AM #179085
Sandi Egan
ParticipantI think this is a political move.
Clinton called for a foreclosure moratorium many times. Ahead of PA primaries (where she leads and has a lot of supporters among Philly elected officials), it might be nice to show everybody how her policies could help people save their homes.
For better or worse, it will illustrate the sheer stupidity of the idea.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:25 AM #179093
Sandi Egan
ParticipantI think this is a political move.
Clinton called for a foreclosure moratorium many times. Ahead of PA primaries (where she leads and has a lot of supporters among Philly elected officials), it might be nice to show everybody how her policies could help people save their homes.
For better or worse, it will illustrate the sheer stupidity of the idea.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:25 AM #179174
Sandi Egan
ParticipantI think this is a political move.
Clinton called for a foreclosure moratorium many times. Ahead of PA primaries (where she leads and has a lot of supporters among Philly elected officials), it might be nice to show everybody how her policies could help people save their homes.
For better or worse, it will illustrate the sheer stupidity of the idea.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:15 AM #179069
Arraya
ParticipantWhy are people so hell bent on keeping FBs paying on overpriced houses. Let them go rent and save money.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:15 AM #179076
Arraya
ParticipantWhy are people so hell bent on keeping FBs paying on overpriced houses. Let them go rent and save money.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:15 AM #179084
Arraya
ParticipantWhy are people so hell bent on keeping FBs paying on overpriced houses. Let them go rent and save money.
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March 31, 2008 at 7:15 AM #179164
Arraya
ParticipantWhy are people so hell bent on keeping FBs paying on overpriced houses. Let them go rent and save money.
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