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October 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM #753464October 30, 2012 at 3:02 PM #753465CoronitaParticipant
I’d first upgrade your primary and rent out your old…
October 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM #753469SD TransplantParticipantTwin Peaks / Rancho Arbolitos – Poway
October 30, 2012 at 3:51 PM #753470bearishgurlParticipantAN, I was focusing on city tree easements, either between sidewalk and street or a median in the street (or both). I thought you were looking for a “walkable” area with “character.” π
I don’t recall which streets, if any, in Tierrasanta, Scripps, Del Cerro or Poway have tree easements. Anyone?
If you absolutely have to have a sidewalk, you need to focus on incorporated areas. In SD County, the presence of sidewalks is “spotty,” at best, in the uninc areas.
I don’t think you can get all your “wants” in SD in one pkg, either, unless you buy a heavy and/or “structural” fixer.
A ~100-ft wide lot (you didn’t state this in your OP) is very doable in almost every uninc area in the county but they will likely be lacking sidewalks.
They are also “doable but rare” in some of the areas I mentioned to you (92101, 92102, 92103, 92104, 92106) BUT they will very likely NOT be in your price range UNLESS you are are able to wrestle a heavy fixer away from a cash buyer with deep pockets.
All but two of the areas I mentioned also have ~140 ft deep lots up to ~70 ft wide with alley access. This somewhat negates the need for a wider lot.
If you want to eliminate “tree-easements” as a “must-have,” I would be able to direct you further. With this “requirement” in place, you are looking at predominately 60-85 yo neighborhoods.
October 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM #753471SK in CVParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
I don’t recall which streets, if any, in Tierrasanta, Scripps, Del Cerro or Poway have tree easements. Anyone?[/quote]
Most all of the original part of Del Cerro has sidewalks and tree easements except for the highlands.
October 30, 2012 at 4:05 PM #753472(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantNot exactly uniformly tree-lined, but some parts of Bay Park – particularly the upper, southern sections are worth a look.
Streets might include the following and their surroundings…
Dunhaven/Penrose/Garfield/Cecelia/Southcrest area
Calendar streets area (February/March/September/July).October 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM #753473anParticipant[quote=SD Realtor]The getting the good value part is tough. What you described is available in Scripps but not sure if you would consider it good value. There are some areas of Tierra Santa and even San Carlos that have larger lots as well. I also think there are some areas in Poway that would fit the bill. Finally if you go a bit farther up Pomerado on the east side of it, before it bends back towards 15 in Rancho Bernardo there are some places as well. Also tucked in between Lake Hodges and south Escondido on the west side of I15 there are possibilities. I like that part of UC you are looking at. You could even consider Clairemont as well if you are patient enough to wait until something with a big lot comes up.[/quote]
Good value is all relative. So, just because it’s expensive doesn’t mean you can’t get good value. I don’t see any old area of Scripps that have tree lined streets. Not even South of Pomerado.I looked through all of West Escondido (especially around Lake Hodges). Those houses don’t have side walks. I looked at Clairemont and the lots are not wide enough to make me consider the change. The houses in Clairemont on Mount streets have lots that look to be 60-75 ft wide. I would like to see 100 ft wide like the ones on UC.
I have nothing but time. So, it doesn’t have to be available now.
October 30, 2012 at 4:42 PM #753476spdrunParticipantI have nothing but time. So, it doesn’t have to be available now.
So here’s hoping for another 2008-style crash. For your sake of course. *CLINK*
October 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM #753477bearishgurlParticipant[quote=AN]BG, Plumosa Park doesn’t have have tree lined street like I’m describing. 92103 and 92101 lots, if I’m not mistaken are smaller than average of 1/4 acre. BTW, when I say 1/4 acre, I mean 1/4 acre usable lot. Preferably 100×100 sq-ft dimension, not your typical skinny and long lots. If I’m not mistaken, Kensington, South Park, and Morley Field lots are long and narrow as well, no? Lemon Grove and La Mesa does have larger lots, but I can’t find any with tree lined streets. Can you point me to a specific are w/in LG and LM?…[/quote]
Plumosa has some pie-shaped, irregular and wider lots. Their “tree easement” is in the middle of the street. Most of the lots in 92104 are 50-60 ft by 100-120 but there are many exceptions and most of them have alley access. There may still be some double lots left (not yet subdivided) within four streets of I-805 and there are larger irregular lots in Burlingame and surrounds. In 92116, the vast majority of of non-standard lots are within 2-3 streets of the canyon rim and most are east of I-15. 92102 has wider lots, especially those with homes ~85 yrs old, which have alley access. It is not uncommon to find ~14K lots in LM (on both sides of Windsor Hill), even walking distance to the village. A larger lot there will likely by 1/3 to 1/4 slope. There are also wider lots off the Lemon Ave and Bancroft exits of SR-125. There are long lots off the Mass exit, north of HWY 94. There are 70′ x 160′ and larger lots in LG off the Mass exit of Hwy 94 south between Mass & 69th St (overlooking SD) all the way down to the trolley line on LG Ave. All of these areas are “tree lined.”
Chula Vista tree easements with wide lots are on 1st and 2nd Aves, F St, G St, J St, K St all east of 2nd Ave. A 1/2 AC+ lot is not uncommon there. These lots are perfectly flat. North of L street between Hilltop Dr. and 1st Ave (SD Country Club area – 91911) are pie, irregular and many 70′ wide lots, some with views. Hilltop Drive (east side) between F and H and going east on G st is uninc. This area has what you are looking for but the sidewalks (except within the HOA) are spotty.
There are other micro-areas in SD Co that fit your tree-easement, lot reqs and price parameters but also don’t necessarily have views.
If I were you, AN, I would drive around to see which streets (and which side of them) that I liked, and then order the plat maps for the blocks that interested me. You never know when something you want might become available … maybe even a clean lot with its dwelling razed :=]
October 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM #753478bearishgurlParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]
I don’t recall which streets, if any, in Tierrasanta, Scripps, Del Cerro or Poway have tree easements. Anyone?[/quote]
Most all of the original part of Del Cerro has sidewalks and tree easements except for the highlands.[/quote]
Thanks for that, SK. I am more familiar with the less-expensive “Princess Del Cerro” tracts (on the SE side) than I am with the original and view sts with customs.
October 30, 2012 at 5:01 PM #753479bearishgurlParticipant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]Not exactly uniformly tree-lined, but some parts of Bay Park – particularly the upper, southern sections are worth a look.
Streets might include the following and their surroundings…
Dunhaven/Penrose/Garfield/Cecelia/Southcrest area
Calendar streets area (February/March/September/July).[/quote]Good idea … esp the “calendar” sts. I don’t think the houses there on the “uniformly tree lined” sts are anywhere near ~2500 sf.
But I really like this area :=]
October 30, 2012 at 6:16 PM #753483flyerParticipantHave a relative who built on Norman Lane in Del Cerro, but has since moved. As I remember, they had views to Mexico–neat area.
Other areas where we have family, and the lots are definitely larger are in Sunset Cliffs and Point Loma, as well as Mission Hills, to name a
few–also with great views.Over time, I’m sure you’ll be able to find exactly what you want.
October 30, 2012 at 8:33 PM #753486anParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]There are other micro-areas in SD Co that fit your tree-easement, lot reqs and price parameters but also don’t necessarily have views.
If I were you, AN, I would drive around to see which streets (and which side of them) that I liked, and then order the plat maps for the blocks that interested me. You never know when something you want might become available … maybe even a clean lot with its dwelling razed :=][/quote]
Oh, this is a project for a distant future. So, I’m just trying to get pointers on where to drive around and see. There’s no way I can drive to every street in SD to see if any area would fit my criteria. Which is why I’m asking here. Since we have people all over the county, it would be a lot more economical to just ask here and get a list of where to go check out. Right now, I’m forming a list and then, I can keep an eye out to see if one of the lots I like come on the market. I’m currently doing just that for 92126 and 92121 zip code.A view is a must, since if it doesn’t have a view, I would rather just to stay put in my current house. View is higher on the priority list than tree-easement. The reason why I like the UC development so much is because all of the houses in that development have 100 ft wide lot. It just feel a lot more spacious than if you have 1/4 acre but it’s only 60-75 ft. wide.
October 30, 2012 at 8:36 PM #753487anParticipant[quote=spdrun]
I have nothing but time. So, it doesn’t have to be available now.
So here’s hoping for another 2008-style crash. For your sake of course. *CLINK*[/quote]
Sorry, but I have no desire for a 2008-style crash. I would much rather see a 1999 stock bubble. The type of lot and areas I’m interested wouldn’t do me any good if we see a 2008-style crash. These owners have owned their house for many many years, so they wouldn’t need to sell. If market is up, they might sell, but if it crash, they’ll stay put.October 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM #753488anParticipant[quote=flu]I’d first upgrade your primary and rent out your old…[/quote]
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