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June 24, 2016 at 2:55 PM #799047June 24, 2016 at 3:28 PM #799049
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Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=all]
Either way, a finger to the ruling class is likely preferred to chopped heads, by plebs and patricians alike.[/quote]The conservatives are losing control of their bases.
The business elites are now losing money because they used and enabled the pitchfork peasants.[/quote]If you intentionally make people angry and afraid, you shouldn’t expect yourself to be able to predict the outcome of their anger and fear. Especially over a long period of time. Conservatives in this country have been stoking anger and fear for decades, and they got drumpf out of the deal. I’m not sure what’s been going on in the UK, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it were basically the same thing over there (with brexit the result instead of drumpf).
June 24, 2016 at 3:38 PM #799050bearishgurl
Participant[quote=spdrun]Can California leave the US so they’re not stuck propping up Mississippi and Oklahoma?[/quote]Umm, I don’t know about MS but OK doesn’t need “propping up” by the likes of over-indebted Californians and their over-indebted state gubment. They’re doing fine by themselves, in spite of having several populous communities in the path of “Tornado Alley.” Oklahomans are a very hardy and resourceful bunch of folks who have been getting along fine for years … that is until “Obamacare” came on board and caused several of their major insurance carriers to leave the state and many of their urban-based medical providers to drop out of the exchange-carrier network. But at least they weren’t stupid enough (as Cali was) to adopt “enhanced Medicaid.” A large portion of the state’s residents are eligible to access medical care through the IHS (approx 550-600K people), including their many, modern IHS and tribally funded hospitals and clinics.
And OK has only been fighting a “meth scourge” in its eastern (rural) parts of the state because when all the East SD County meth labs were raided and busted up by the SDSO in combination with the NTF and DEA back in ’98-99, a lot of those lab operators were subsequently found guilty of felonies and sent off to prison. When they were released (5-12 years later), they ALL defected to OK, AR and MO to ply their usual trade (yes, people, that same trade which they just did major time for in CA) in heavily wooded areas where policing was thin. These states don’t have the multi-agency policing resources as does the “police state” we all know and love as San Diego County, CA (an int’l border county). This lack of coordinated law enforcement has allowed OK’s makeshift meth labs to operate largely underground for years whilst insidiously polluting OK’s many streams, rivers and lakes. Most of these labs aren’t caught until they catch fire or until the teachers of the children who are living in them turn their student’s injuries over to social service agencies.
Instead of “feeling sorry” for Oklahomans, you Piggs would do better to instead ask themselves how this happened and WHO was/is responsible for it!
As a public service, the IHS is picking up most of the slack in attempt to detox/rehab OK/AR/MO rural meth addicts (whether they are eligible to access IHS … or not).
Do NOT feel sorry for Oklahomans, please. They’re fine and they’re dealing as they always have and always will. A very large portion of OK adults are also collecting off gas and oil leases for life (quarterly, biannually or annually) which they “inherited” (in addition to their employment and pension incomes). When they die, their heirs will do same. Many of them actually feel sorry for us … for the day-to-day conditions we urban Californians must deal with just to get thru life. The vast majority of “Okies” like to come to Cali for a vacation to see the sights but they wouldn’t want to live here. You can trust me on that :=0
June 24, 2016 at 3:39 PM #799051bearishgurl
Participant[quote=livinincali][quote=spdrun]Can California leave the US so they’re not stuck propping up Mississippi and Oklahoma?[/quote]
No. CA would rather force their social/progressive vision of the way things should be on Mississippi and Oklahoma. It’s all about power.[/quote]Ha, ha, I’m fairly certain that the residents of both of these states just laugh at us “Californicators,” instead.
June 24, 2016 at 3:57 PM #799052bearishgurl
Participant[quote=zk][quote=FlyerInHi]This what happens when news outlets like the Sun enable the pitchfork peasants.[/quote]
And Trump wouldn’t be where he is without Fox et.al. encouraging America’s pitchfork peasants….[/quote]This is another pompous statement. Fox News is on cable (and satellite) TV. One can’t get Fox News in their home in my area of SD County unless they sign up for a minimum $53.50 TV pkg (+ telecommunications tax and incl box rental) with a cable or satellite provider (just TWO providers to choose from around here). OR … spend hundreds setting up their own antenna system where they still would have a monthly fee of $15-$20. And $53.50 month presumes the customer already has high-speed internet service with that same provider! If they don’t (and just want to order TV service only), the price to get Fox News is $65-$70 month.
“Pitchfork peasants” can’t afford that expense every month. They are lucky if they have a rabbit-ear antenna which can still pick up local TV channels for free … that is, IF their local area broadcasting has not yet gone “all digital” (as it has in most areas of SD County).
The above comments are just another example of a broad brushstroke of the electorate painted by Piggs who are obviously wrapped up in their own fantastical delusions of how wonderful their own political views and ideologies are.
June 24, 2016 at 3:58 PM #799053bearishgurl
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=The-Shoveler]”British millenials are ticked off”
I am not sure that is not just the media talking for them like they do here saying they want a condo and bike to work when they really want a house in the suburbs and a BMW.[/quote]
I think they are. I think they googled “what’s the EU?” this morning and realized that they should have been paying attention.[/quote]LOL …
June 24, 2016 at 5:10 PM #799056no_such_reality
ParticipantAt present, end of day Friday before a weekend, massive sell off on an already high trade volume day. Nothing out of the ordinary really, it’s a weekend, and traders don’t won’t to be holding anything over the weekend.
Monday, all those trader may continue to panic. Or they may start looking for how they’re going to make their numbers look good for the quarter. Ultimately, that’s all the vast majority of the money on the street really cares about, can they make their quarterly gain numbers look good. They’re deathly afraid of being notable below the market.
In the mean time, as Americans, we at this moment are looking to have a new refinance boom as rates push even lower. Europe and the UK are on sale at the moment for travel and leisure. Goods too.
How long that lasts is a good question, eventually all that money that’s trying to run around and not be left out of the musical chairs as to go back to finding bigger chairs.
June 24, 2016 at 5:44 PM #799057FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=zk][quote=FlyerInHi][quote=all]
Either way, a finger to the ruling class is likely preferred to chopped heads, by plebs and patricians alike.[/quote]The conservatives are losing control of their bases.
The business elites are now losing money because they used and enabled the pitchfork peasants.[/quote]If you intentionally make people angry and afraid, you shouldn’t expect yourself to be able to predict the outcome of their anger and fear. Especially over a long period of time. Conservatives in this country have been stoking anger and fear for decades, and they got drumpf out of the deal. I’m not sure what’s been going on in the UK, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it were basically the same thing over there (with brexit the result instead of drumpf).[/quote]
In the UK, they are getting Nigel Farage. And they have enabled separationist elements in Scotland which is a separate country from England. We are seeing a break up of the U.K.
June 24, 2016 at 6:01 PM #799060FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=bearishgurl]
The above comments are just another example of a broad brushstroke of the electorate painted by Piggs who are obviously wrapped up in their own fantastical delusions of how wonderful their own political views and ideologies are.[/quote]
Pitchfork peasants are riled up nativist-populists. non college educated and non cosmopolitan. In the the UK the motto is “we want our country back”.
June 24, 2016 at 6:14 PM #799063bearishgurl
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=bearishgurl]
The above comments are just another example of a broad brushstroke of the electorate painted by Piggs who are obviously wrapped up in their own fantastical delusions of how wonderful their own political views and ideologies are.[/quote]
Pitchfork peasants are riled up nativist-populists. non college educated and non cosmopolitan. In the the UK the motto was “we want our country back”.[/quote]Is there something wrong with that, FIH? Just because someone “wants their country back,” it doesn’t make them “`Pitchfork peasants” (who) ‘are riled up nativist-populists. non college educated and non cosmopolitan.'” Not by a long shot. Again, you’re painting every voter who wants change from the corrupt “status quo” with a very broad brush here.
You obviously don’t realize that many large cities in “flyover country” (which you claim are full of non-college-educated `pitchfork peasants’) are actually very “cosmopolitan” places to live and work in. Take Tulsa, OK, for example in that (gasp!) “red state.” There are LOTS of cultural things to do there and the residents there dress a helluva a lot better that those in SD, CA to attend cultural events. It also has hundreds of historical residential properties and and beautiful well-planned historical neighborhoods with park-like walkways with streams running thru, etc. The whole city is also very pretty in the fall and has gorgeous lakes on the west side.
Believe it or not, over 75K native Southern Californians have relocated to Tulsa over the past ~15 years. Many have started successful small businesses.
Yet, most of those scumbag, “uneducated, pitchfork peasants” residing in Tulsa County voted for Cruz in the primaries. Go figure :=0
June 24, 2016 at 6:19 PM #799064spdrun
ParticipantDressing better isn’t the sign of anything other than vanity. IMHO. 🙂
June 24, 2016 at 6:22 PM #799065bearishgurl
Participant[quote=spdrun]Dressing better isn’t the sign of anything other than vanity. IMHO. :)[/quote]Um, well, ok … but the folks in more than a few of these “flyover states” have a lot of pride. They like to look good for social events and church 🙂
June 24, 2016 at 6:35 PM #799068SK in CV
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=SK in CV][quote=The-Shoveler]”British millenials are ticked off”
I am not sure that is not just the media talking for them like they do here saying they want a condo and bike to work when they really want a house in the suburbs and a BMW.[/quote]
I think they are. I think they googled “what’s the EU?” this morning and realized that they should have been paying attention.[/quote]LOL …[/quote]
Sadly, I did not make that up. I probably should have worded it differently. I KNOW they googled “what’s the EU”. (Google said so.) I THINK they then realized they should have been paying attention.
June 24, 2016 at 6:36 PM #799067spdrun
ParticipantHappily unchurched here. If my social life revolved around a church … yuck.
I bet that the younger generation from Oklahoma would JUMP at the chance to move to San Diego, at least for their 20s.
If I drive cross country, I want a custom license plate. UNCHRCHD 🙂
June 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM #799069SK in CV
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]Is there something wrong with that, FIH? Just because someone “wants their country back,” it doesn’t make them “`Pitchfork peasants” (who) ‘are riled up nativist-populists. non college educated and non cosmopolitan.'” [/quote]
What does it make them? What do you think those words mean? From who or what do they want it back from? What good old days are they longing for?
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