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October 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM #21273October 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM #779252
CoronitaParticipantNo way man. I’m a miserable failure!
October 22, 2014 at 5:00 PM #779254NotCranky
Participant[quote=flu]No way man. I’m a miserable failure![/quote]
Not true my friend, but if it were true, would anyone ever have loved you other than your mother? Um Forget I said that , she’s Asian right?October 22, 2014 at 5:26 PM #779255ParticipantI think I traded my life for some success and an nice craft beer collection.
October 22, 2014 at 5:54 PM #779257njtosd
Participant[quote=Blogstar]http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=aaplw&p=men+are+success+objects%3F
The first link discussion is centered around some ideas expressed by the famous and highly regarded former board member of The NYC chapter of NOW, Warren Farrell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Farrell
It’s nice when one of the books you have read and really got something out of, the author of said book, and his subsequent books, have stood up to the test of time.
Sorry, he is a man, I really apologize for that, but his work is highly acclaimed by some women too!
I know times are changing but I look around and see some familiar patterns as apparently do a lot other piggs. Hot women never go out of style, for instance.[/quote]
Wait, other than the apologizing for him being a man, I was interested in what you had to say, until you said “Hot women never go out of style, for instance.” The obvious retort is “Neither do rich men.” And then we’re right back where we started.
When I met my husband, we did the same job and earned the same, with the same education. Because he wanted me to relocate, and because we wanted to have kids soon after marriage (both of us were in our 30s), and because we both thought our kids would do best with a stay at home parent, we decided that I would stay home. I deliberately developed a well paying career, beginning in college, out of fear of being influenced by someone else’s paycheck. I out-earned most of the guys I dated.
I feel like I’ve followed my values – I may not have a funny bone (although I think I’m a stitch), but not all women are out for a success object.
October 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM #779258scaredyclassic
ParticipantI believe my overall sexiness is pretty overwhelming.
But I’m not sure what the first link is to? I wanna read.
October 22, 2014 at 7:12 PM #779260Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=Blogstar]http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=aaplw&p=men+are+success+objects%3F
The first link discussion is centered around some ideas expressed by the famous and highly regarded former board member of The NYC chapter of NOW, Warren Farrell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Farrell
It’s nice when one of the books you have read and really got something out of, the author of said book, and his subsequent books, have stood up to the test of time.
Sorry, he is a man, I really apologize for that, but his work is highly acclaimed by some women too!
I know times are changing but I look around and see some familiar patterns as apparently do a lot other piggs. Hot women never go out of style, for instance.[/quote]
Wait, other than the apologizing for him being a man, I was interested in what you had to say, until you said “Hot women never go out of style, for instance.” The obvious retort is “Neither do rich men.” And then we’re right back where we started.
When I met my husband, we did the same job and earned the same, with the same education. Because he wanted me to relocate, and because we wanted to have kids soon after marriage (both of us were in our 30s), and because we both thought our kids would do best with a stay at home parent, we decided that I would stay home. I deliberately developed a well paying career, beginning in college, out of fear of being influenced by someone else’s paycheck. I out-earned most of the guys I dated.
I feel like I’ve followed my values – I may not have a funny bone (although I think I’m a stitch), but not all women are out for a success object.[/quote]
I guess “hot women are still in style” doesn’t translate to “sexual objectification of women is alive and well”? That’s what it means. The apologizing for it being a male is for she who’s name can not be mentioned. How does a little silliness make something interesting uninteresting ?
October 22, 2014 at 7:31 PM #779262Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]I believe my overall sexiness is pretty overwhelming.
But I’m not sure what the first link is to? I wanna read.[/quote]
The first link is just to a yahoo search result that shows lots of hits to the topic. The link works for me. Lots of reading.
For reading , You could work off the wiki link on Warren Farrell for a long time . I like to put in the names of books and read the reviews on Amazon. Pretty good discussions.
The book I read in 1988 is “why men are the way they are” It was fresh out of the oven first run. I was 26 .
October 22, 2014 at 7:54 PM #779266ParticipantI read iron John by Robert bly in the 80s. This Farrell dude sounds more reasonable.
Boy powrr!
October 22, 2014 at 8:29 PM #779269Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=Blogstar]http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=aaplw&p=men+are+success+objects%3F
The first link discussion is centered around some ideas expressed by the famous and highly regarded former board member of The NYC chapter of NOW, Warren Farrell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Farrell
It’s nice when one of the books you have read and really got something out of, the author of said book, and his subsequent books, have stood up to the test of time.
Sorry, he is a man, I really apologize for that, but his work is highly acclaimed by some women too!
I know times are changing but I look around and see some familiar patterns as apparently do a lot other piggs. Hot women never go out of style, for instance.[/quote]
Wait, other than the apologizing for him being a man, I was interested in what you had to say, until you said “Hot women never go out of style, for instance.” The obvious retort is “Neither do rich men.” And then we’re right back where we started.
When I met my husband, we did the same job and earned the same, with the same education. Because he wanted me to relocate, and because we wanted to have kids soon after marriage (both of us were in our 30s), and because we both thought our kids would do best with a stay at home parent, we decided that I would stay home. I deliberately developed a well paying career, beginning in college, out of fear of being influenced by someone else’s paycheck. I out-earned most of the guys I dated.
I feel like I’ve followed my values – I may not have a funny bone (although I think I’m a stitch), but not all women are out for a success object.[/quote]
I am sure you followed your values. Quick question, you out-earned most the men you dated and dumped….how about the one you married?
October 22, 2014 at 8:30 PM #779270UCGal
ParticipantMy husband is convinced he’s the sex object in our relationship. I don’t dissuade him of this notion. LOL.
October 22, 2014 at 8:53 PM #779271Participant[quote=Blogstar]
I am sure you followed your values. Quick question, you out-earned most the men you dated and dumped….how about the one you married?[/quote]
As I mentioned in the post – same education, same job and roughly same earnings (within a few percent – I can’t remember anymore). Not surprisingly I met him through work (although we did not work together), we had graduated the same year, so we were roughly in lock step. I don’t think I “dumped” people, but just in case you think I was getting rid of the low earners, a couple of them were orthopedic surgery residents, who were on track to out earn me. So you can spin that as you like. There were others (engineers, etc. – nerds probably in your estimation, and overall poor dancers) who were not expected to have the same gains. You won’t believe me, but I like people who I think are interesting and honest and generally share my values. I also tend to like Irish guys.
October 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM #779272Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=Blogstar]
I am sure you followed your values. Quick question, you out-earned most the men you dated and dumped….how about the one you married?[/quote]
As I mentioned in the post – same education, same job and roughly same earnings (within a few percent – I can’t remember anymore). Not surprisingly I met him through work (although we did not work together), we had graduated the same year, so we were roughly in lock step. I don’t think I “dumped” people, but just in case you think I was getting rid of the low earners, a couple of them were orthopedic surgery residents, who were on track to out earn me. So you can spin that as you like. There were others (engineers, etc. – nerds probably in your estimation, and overall poor dancers) who were not expected to have the same gains. You won’t believe me, but I like people who I think are interesting and honest and generally share my values. I also tend to like Irish guys.[/quote]
Not going to spin it , just looking for a data point on the topic. Good Job, UCgal too (based post on the other thread.) The dumping is a joke….maybe I will put jokes in italics until you find that bone you lost. One of the orthopedic guys could have come in handy there. One of the orthopedic guys could have come in handy there.
October 22, 2014 at 9:22 PM #779273Participant[quote=Blogstar]
Not going to spin it , just looking for a data point on the topic. Good Job, UCgal too (based post on the other thread.) The dumping is a joke….maybe I will put jokes in italics until you find that bone you lost. One of the orthopedic guys could have come in handy there. One of the orthopedic guys could have come in handy there.[/quote]
Make the jokes funnier and I will get them. I hesitate to ask – was repeating the last sentence supposed to be a joke, too? Did you ever read “A Confederacy of Dunces” ? Husband hates it, I think it’s hysterical. One of the few humor things we disagree on. We both love Monty Python.
October 22, 2014 at 9:28 PM #779274ParticipantGlitch on uploading.
Haven’t read the book. I will look at it. I don’t like monty python. The first time I saw a Fish Called Wanda I liked it, but not later on.
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