Are federal workers overpaid? Avg 123k?? It’s insane!

[jficquette]

WASHINGTON – When it comes to pay, federal workers receive benefits that averaged about $41,791 in 2009. When you factor in salaries and those benefits, which include pensions, federal civil servants earned about $123,049 in 2009.
By comparison, private workers made $61,051 in total compensation, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

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We need to get rid of as many fed employees as possible.

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[Coronita]

Just make more money, and then you shouldn’t care about what everyone else is making :), with the exception of probably those folks in Bell, CA.

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[Coronita]

Just make more money, and then you shouldn’t care about what everyone else is making :), with the exception of probably those folks in Bell, CA.

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

[Coronita]

Just make more money, and then you shouldn’t care about what everyone else is making :), with the exception of probably those folks in Bell, CA.

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

[Coronita]

Just make more money, and then you shouldn’t care about what everyone else is making :), with the exception of probably those folks in Bell, CA.

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

[Coronita]

Just make more money, and then you shouldn’t care about what everyone else is making :), with the exception of probably those folks in Bell, CA.

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[jimmyle]

Yes, but there is nothing we can do about it. They have bought our politicians including Obama.

One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.

[jimmyle]

Yes, but there is nothing we can do about it. They have bought our politicians including Obama.

One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.

[jimmyle]

Yes, but there is nothing we can do about it. They have bought our politicians including Obama.

One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.

[jimmyle]

Yes, but there is nothing we can do about it. They have bought our politicians including Obama.

One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.

[jimmyle]

Yes, but there is nothing we can do about it. They have bought our politicians including Obama.

One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I agree in general on reducing the number of federal employees, but the comparison given above is not apples-to-apples.

The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.

In fact, as we reduce federal employment to fewer numbers, the approach has been to keep the oversight and management government positions, and outsource the lower-paid positions.
So, as we right-size the government, this metric will probably continue to skew higher for the average federal employee, compared to average private employee.

A better metric would be a comparison of wages and benefits for similar positions at various levels. If one looks at that comparison I would suspect that the higher end jobs (engineering, management) pay signficantly more in salary/benefits in the private sector than in Federal employment, while lower end jobs likely pay more in the federal govt than in privsate employment.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I agree in general on reducing the number of federal employees, but the comparison given above is not apples-to-apples.

The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.

In fact, as we reduce federal employment to fewer numbers, the approach has been to keep the oversight and management government positions, and outsource the lower-paid positions.
So, as we right-size the government, this metric will probably continue to skew higher for the average federal employee, compared to average private employee.

A better metric would be a comparison of wages and benefits for similar positions at various levels. If one looks at that comparison I would suspect that the higher end jobs (engineering, management) pay signficantly more in salary/benefits in the private sector than in Federal employment, while lower end jobs likely pay more in the federal govt than in privsate employment.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I agree in general on reducing the number of federal employees, but the comparison given above is not apples-to-apples.

The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.

In fact, as we reduce federal employment to fewer numbers, the approach has been to keep the oversight and management government positions, and outsource the lower-paid positions.
So, as we right-size the government, this metric will probably continue to skew higher for the average federal employee, compared to average private employee.

A better metric would be a comparison of wages and benefits for similar positions at various levels. If one looks at that comparison I would suspect that the higher end jobs (engineering, management) pay signficantly more in salary/benefits in the private sector than in Federal employment, while lower end jobs likely pay more in the federal govt than in privsate employment.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

I agree in general on reducing the number of federal employees, but the comparison given above is not apples-to-apples.

The metric used above is intended to inflame, rather than inform.

The private employment number include all employees, including fast food workers, retail, construciton laborers, etc.
The federal government employees skew towards higher educated positions. The equivalent of the above private jobs (cafeteria work, construciton labor, retail) are contracted out to the private sector by the federal government.

In fact, as we reduce federal employment to fewer numbers, the approach has been to keep the oversight and management government positions, and outsource the lower-paid positions.
So, as we right-size the government, this metric will probably continue to skew higher for the average federal employee, compared to average private employee.

A better metric would be a comparison of wages and benefits for similar positions at various levels. If one looks at that comparison I would suspect that the higher end jobs (engineering, management) pay signficantly more in salary/benefits in the private sector than in Federal employment, while lower end jobs likely pay more in the federal govt than in privsate employment.

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