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October 2, 2015 at 5:13 PM #789815October 2, 2015 at 6:38 PM #789816
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Guest[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=deadzone]
Lie to the border patrol? OMG no way anybody would do that.[/quote]
Not as easy as you think. The border patrol agent can just ask the kids riding in the car. After all the border patrol are highskill agents who protect our border.[/quote]
The border agents don’t give a shit. The parents are most likely crossing anyway to go to their job in san diego (illegally). Thousands of Mexicans living in TJ cross every day to work illegally over here, so lying to the border agent is as common as the sun rising. Obviously very few get caught.
October 2, 2015 at 6:42 PM #789817Guest[quote=FlyerInHi]How did the Reagan amnesty determine eligibility? Start with doing the same.[/quote]
That is what opened up the floodgates to the enable this current situation. Yeah, let’s double down on a f-d up policy decision from the past. You are brilliant!Again, if you want to argue for Amnesty, just cut to the chase, you want open borders and every man for himself.
October 2, 2015 at 8:55 PM #789818FlyerInHi
Guestdeadzone, as far as now having the immigrants already in this country. I view that as a good thing. They are a net positive to our economy and our culture.
What is really bad and f-d up is that they are undocumented.
We will just have to disagree on this point.
I feel that the people already here are part of us. Let’s harness their full potential by legalizing them. We keep the status quo + add reform. The only difference is the identity paperwork that will increase our human capital.
The controversy is really on your side for you want to send them home. That would be creating a new reality.
October 2, 2015 at 9:14 PM #789819Guest[quote=FlyerInHi]deadzone, as far as now having the immigrants already in this country. I view that as a good thing. They are a net positive to our economy and our culture.
What is really bad and f-d up is that they are undocumented.
We will just have to disagree on this point.
I feel that the people already here are part of us. Let’s harness their full potential by legalizing them. We keep the status quo + add reform. The only difference is the identity paperwork that will increase our human capital.
The controversy is really on your side for you want to send them home. That would be creating a new reality.[/quote]
Take away the jobs and most will go back on their own. They are here for the money, not for anything else.
October 2, 2015 at 9:52 PM #789821CA renter
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I doubt it’s true.
I know a guy who crosses frequently. The border patrol grill him which causes him to be frequently late. They ask him. What are you coming for? Shopping? Where’s your money? Where’s your credit card?
Sometimes he’s sent to secondary inspection.The kids would be late to school all the time and they would fail. Plus they would have to lie to the border patrol as to the reason for crossing.[/quote]
Not sure if they still have this program, but one of my former roommates would come across the border for school every day when she was a child. Her parents didn’t even drive her to the border. Buses would bring them over every day. From what I understood, it was an official program. Not sure of the purpose, though. It was supposedly a select group of kids who could attend school in the U.S.
October 2, 2015 at 9:53 PM #789822Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=FlyerInHi]I doubt it’s true.
I know a guy who crosses frequently. The border patrol grill him which causes him to be frequently late. They ask him. What are you coming for? Shopping? Where’s your money? Where’s your credit card?
Sometimes he’s sent to secondary inspection.The kids would be late to school all the time and they would fail. Plus they would have to lie to the border patrol as to the reason for crossing.[/quote]
brian, don’t you have a flexible schedule?? Why don’t you drive to aforementioned trolley station next time you’re down here. Make sure you get there by 6:30 to 6:45 am on a weekday and stay at least one hour. Alternate observing the parking lot drop-off zone and sitting on the benches with trolley riders. I guarantee you’ll get an eyeful.[/quote]
Agree, BG. People just need to check it out for themselves.
October 2, 2015 at 10:21 PM #789771Participant[quote=AN]CAR, you might not have to worry about the Latinos infiltrating America if the current trend continues. You should be worried about the Asians: http://newamericamedia.org/2015/10/asian-immigrants-likely-to-overtake-hispanics-in-us-population.php
OMG, the Asians are coming, the Asians are coming…[/quote]
But a significant portion of the Asian immigrants have money, and many of them are pretty well-educated. That’s not the case with most of the **illegal** immigrants coming over our southern border.
Again, quality and quantity matter.
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October 2, 2015 at 10:24 PM #789820Participant[quote=harvey][quote=CA renter] Thousands of “Mexican” kids (yes, crossing the US border every single weekday) attend US public schools and community college in SD and Imperial counties. [/quote]
Oh my, we’ve got children getting an education and bettering their lives!
We need to hire more government workers to stop all of this government spending![/quote]
You’ve misattributed that quote (probably intentionally, as usual). Not unlike your habit of editing posts (cutting out some of the most important points, adding in your own words and attributing them to other people’s quotes, intentionally quoting out of context, etc.) in an attempt to completely twist what someone says, often to the extreme opposite of what was actually said, to suit your trollish needs.
Carry on, pri_dk. We all know your game already.
You’re still in desperate need of a very intensive reading comprehension class. You don’t know how to read and/or you are 100% troll; more than likely, it’s a combination of both.
October 3, 2015 at 10:22 AM #789833Guest[quote=CA renter][quote=bearishgurl]
brian, don’t you have a flexible schedule?? Why don’t you drive to aforementioned trolley station next time you’re down here. Make sure you get there by 6:30 to 6:45 am on a weekday and stay at least one hour. Alternate observing the parking lot drop-off zone and sitting on the benches with trolley riders. I guarantee you’ll get an eyeful.[/quote]Agree, BG. People just need to check it out for themselves.[/quote]
So both of you have “checked it out” for yourselves?
You’ve both made a trip to a mass transit station, early in the morning, in order to observe schoolchildren who are unattended by adults? You stayed there watching, for “at least one hour?”
I guess it has to be done – in order to win an internet argument.
And of course there’s nothing creepy about it.
October 3, 2015 at 11:47 AM #789834GuestI think the only creepy thing about the scene at the trolley station is what some might characterize as:
“A swarm of foreign kids invading our country. Pretty soon those kids will become soldiers of the new Aztlan Empire. The fate of White women would be too horrible to contemplate, and White men will be left to wander the earth.”
That kind of narrative has been spoken before.
October 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM #789846bearishgurl
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I think the only creepy thing about the scene at the trolley station is what some might characterize as:
“A swarm of foreign kids invading our country. Pretty soon those kids will become soldiers of the new Aztlan Empire. The fate of White women would be too horrible to contemplate, and White men will be left to wander the earth.”
That kind of narrative has been spoken before.[/quote]
brian, you’re really REACHING with the assumptions you’re making ….
This phenom has NOTHING to do with any of this fantasy of yours. OR citizenship or race. It has to do with non-resident students (actually out-of-country residents, or “foreigners,” as you stated) taking public K-12 classroom seats away from bona-fide resident students.
Yes, I HAVE been there early in the am and also in the afternoon! I picked that particular station to discuss here because of its prime location connecting to 8 bus routes which take trolley riders to IB (to connect to Coronado from there) and San Diego via Chula Vista and National City, connecting along the way to Regional (CV & NC) bus routes which take same riders to at least 25 more K-12 public schools and 2 CC campuses. It’s the southernmost trolley “hub” of sorts. It’s a pretty fast and efficient system on a tight but frequent timetable. I’ve had to actually run to/from the bus to connect to the trolley several times when my car was in the shop.
A parent who just crossed the US/MX border can easily move on down the road to go to work in SD or turn westbound around the strand up to Coronado from there (for their hospitality job) after dropping their school-age kids off at this station. It’s common for 2 or more students from one family to be spread among different schools if their parent used fraudulent address(es) to enroll them. It’s also common for students to take different bus routes from their siblings/cousins (who were brought into the US with them that morning) to get to school. It only costs $36 month each for student bus/trolley passes (age 6-18).
Legitimate RESIDENT parents OF ALL races/Nationalities are livid over this situation, ESPECIALLY if they are paying high Mello Roos in a particular school attendance area which is overcrowded and/or their own kids couldn’t get into their “home” schools (or had to wait for a year or more on a waiting list to get into them).
Of course, not having any kids yourself, you wouldn’t understand the magnitude of the problem unless your own family experienced it. Hence, my suggestion to go visit this very public place which is NOT the same as “lurking on (or outside) school grounds.” I didn’t suggest you follow any kids onto the trolley … thus you won’t be stalking and its not “creepy.” But, even if you DID board a trolley some school kids got on and even subsequently boarded their bus with them to their school, as long as you don’t get off at their school with them, you won’t be accused of “stalking.”
If the 3 school districts in SD County most affected by this issue just had a handful of “residency compliance officers” on the payroll, they could very quickly learn much to help their district reduce and eventually eliminate this seemingly intractable problem … opening up hundreds (if not thousands) of slots in these schools for legitimate resident students and even inter-district transfers! But the reality is that these districts don’t really want to know.
As CAR suggested earlier, this is just one of those things that you have to see and experience for yourself.
You seem to be inventing phobias in your head here … or could they possibly be due to a recent “suggestion” made by none other than our resident troll, pri_dk?
October 3, 2015 at 4:06 PM #789847GuestThat is one reason I would never live in the South Bay, it is for good reason they call it Chulajuana.
October 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM #789849Participant[quote=deadzone]That is one reason I would never live in the South Bay, it is for good reason they call it Chulajuana.[/quote]Oh, I think it happens all over SD as well, deadzone, especially at schools near trolley stops. It’s just usually more inconvenient for the parents to get their kids to school everyday the further north (and east) they have to take them (and get them picked in the afternoons from school or a trolley station).
South County schools, though mostly very good, are just far more “conveniently located” for this purpose, making the daily logistics work in the long term :=0
October 3, 2015 at 4:40 PM #789850Guest[quote=bearishgurl][quote=deadzone]That is one reason I would never live in the South Bay, it is for good reason they call it Chulajuana.[/quote]Oh, I think it happens all over SD as well, deadzone, especially at schools near trolley stops. It’s just usually more inconvenient for the parents to get their kids to school everyday the further north (and east) they have to take them (and get them picked in the afternoons from school or a trolley station).
South County schools, though mostly very good, are just far more “conveniently located” for this purpose, making the daily logistics work in the long term :=0[/quote]
Obviously proximity to the border is the key. Of course there are illegals going to school in all areas of San Diego, but the phenomenon of Mexicans actually crossing the border daily to go to school is more concentrated in South Bay.
I personally know somebody who drives their kid all the way to Chulajuna from Rosarito every day for school. To me that is insane from a logistics point of view, but people are obviously willing to do it.
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