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December 10, 2007 at 7:48 PM #113770December 10, 2007 at 7:56 PM #113572patientrenterParticipant
Marion, you’ve made a few waves as one of the few women on a nearly all-male forum. It certainly spices it up for us.
I tend to subscribe to the evolutionary theories of relationships. We men want to spread our seed just about everywhere, preferably for the least commitment in return.
Women’s programming is more complicated. Evolution indicates a woman either wants a solid, reliable, loyal provider for a future long term supportive relationship, or a fling to get genes from an exceptional specimen (the “bad boy”). Either can work for women following the psychology evolution gave them. Best of all is a fling for the genes on the side combined with the solid reliable cuckold for economic and emotional and other support.
You clearly think this guy is a candidate for reliable husband, and not your bad boy fling. From his perspective, he’s still hoping he can be your bad boy who makes no commitment. It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.
Or maybe you’ll go for that fling? Good luck either way.
Patient renter in OC
December 10, 2007 at 7:56 PM #113691patientrenterParticipantMarion, you’ve made a few waves as one of the few women on a nearly all-male forum. It certainly spices it up for us.
I tend to subscribe to the evolutionary theories of relationships. We men want to spread our seed just about everywhere, preferably for the least commitment in return.
Women’s programming is more complicated. Evolution indicates a woman either wants a solid, reliable, loyal provider for a future long term supportive relationship, or a fling to get genes from an exceptional specimen (the “bad boy”). Either can work for women following the psychology evolution gave them. Best of all is a fling for the genes on the side combined with the solid reliable cuckold for economic and emotional and other support.
You clearly think this guy is a candidate for reliable husband, and not your bad boy fling. From his perspective, he’s still hoping he can be your bad boy who makes no commitment. It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.
Or maybe you’ll go for that fling? Good luck either way.
Patient renter in OC
December 10, 2007 at 7:56 PM #113733patientrenterParticipantMarion, you’ve made a few waves as one of the few women on a nearly all-male forum. It certainly spices it up for us.
I tend to subscribe to the evolutionary theories of relationships. We men want to spread our seed just about everywhere, preferably for the least commitment in return.
Women’s programming is more complicated. Evolution indicates a woman either wants a solid, reliable, loyal provider for a future long term supportive relationship, or a fling to get genes from an exceptional specimen (the “bad boy”). Either can work for women following the psychology evolution gave them. Best of all is a fling for the genes on the side combined with the solid reliable cuckold for economic and emotional and other support.
You clearly think this guy is a candidate for reliable husband, and not your bad boy fling. From his perspective, he’s still hoping he can be your bad boy who makes no commitment. It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.
Or maybe you’ll go for that fling? Good luck either way.
Patient renter in OC
December 10, 2007 at 7:56 PM #113739patientrenterParticipantMarion, you’ve made a few waves as one of the few women on a nearly all-male forum. It certainly spices it up for us.
I tend to subscribe to the evolutionary theories of relationships. We men want to spread our seed just about everywhere, preferably for the least commitment in return.
Women’s programming is more complicated. Evolution indicates a woman either wants a solid, reliable, loyal provider for a future long term supportive relationship, or a fling to get genes from an exceptional specimen (the “bad boy”). Either can work for women following the psychology evolution gave them. Best of all is a fling for the genes on the side combined with the solid reliable cuckold for economic and emotional and other support.
You clearly think this guy is a candidate for reliable husband, and not your bad boy fling. From his perspective, he’s still hoping he can be your bad boy who makes no commitment. It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.
Or maybe you’ll go for that fling? Good luck either way.
Patient renter in OC
December 10, 2007 at 7:56 PM #113775patientrenterParticipantMarion, you’ve made a few waves as one of the few women on a nearly all-male forum. It certainly spices it up for us.
I tend to subscribe to the evolutionary theories of relationships. We men want to spread our seed just about everywhere, preferably for the least commitment in return.
Women’s programming is more complicated. Evolution indicates a woman either wants a solid, reliable, loyal provider for a future long term supportive relationship, or a fling to get genes from an exceptional specimen (the “bad boy”). Either can work for women following the psychology evolution gave them. Best of all is a fling for the genes on the side combined with the solid reliable cuckold for economic and emotional and other support.
You clearly think this guy is a candidate for reliable husband, and not your bad boy fling. From his perspective, he’s still hoping he can be your bad boy who makes no commitment. It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.
Or maybe you’ll go for that fling? Good luck either way.
Patient renter in OC
December 10, 2007 at 8:21 PM #113582AnonymousGuestpatientrenter: “It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.”
Reliable provider? Nah. Not only do I want to play that role for myself, I NEED to. Not everybody can understand that. I don’t even want to buy a house with a man again.
It seems that some of you men feel that if you’re not the provider, you’re misplaced somehow. Understandable. There are different things that can make a man feel loved and needed, when I settle on someone, I’ll have to use another way to meet that need.
novice: “I say if you have this many questions about someone after four dates. Stop wasting yours and his time.”
Novice, I have enjoyed his company. This topic has been the only issue thus far.
December 10, 2007 at 8:21 PM #113702AnonymousGuestpatientrenter: “It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.”
Reliable provider? Nah. Not only do I want to play that role for myself, I NEED to. Not everybody can understand that. I don’t even want to buy a house with a man again.
It seems that some of you men feel that if you’re not the provider, you’re misplaced somehow. Understandable. There are different things that can make a man feel loved and needed, when I settle on someone, I’ll have to use another way to meet that need.
novice: “I say if you have this many questions about someone after four dates. Stop wasting yours and his time.”
Novice, I have enjoyed his company. This topic has been the only issue thus far.
December 10, 2007 at 8:21 PM #113742AnonymousGuestpatientrenter: “It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.”
Reliable provider? Nah. Not only do I want to play that role for myself, I NEED to. Not everybody can understand that. I don’t even want to buy a house with a man again.
It seems that some of you men feel that if you’re not the provider, you’re misplaced somehow. Understandable. There are different things that can make a man feel loved and needed, when I settle on someone, I’ll have to use another way to meet that need.
novice: “I say if you have this many questions about someone after four dates. Stop wasting yours and his time.”
Novice, I have enjoyed his company. This topic has been the only issue thus far.
December 10, 2007 at 8:21 PM #113749AnonymousGuestpatientrenter: “It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.”
Reliable provider? Nah. Not only do I want to play that role for myself, I NEED to. Not everybody can understand that. I don’t even want to buy a house with a man again.
It seems that some of you men feel that if you’re not the provider, you’re misplaced somehow. Understandable. There are different things that can make a man feel loved and needed, when I settle on someone, I’ll have to use another way to meet that need.
novice: “I say if you have this many questions about someone after four dates. Stop wasting yours and his time.”
Novice, I have enjoyed his company. This topic has been the only issue thus far.
December 10, 2007 at 8:21 PM #113785AnonymousGuestpatientrenter: “It’s the moment of truth, and the disparity between your hopes is about to be revealed. You just have to be firm. He might still want to be with you, but then you and he will both know that he’ll be playing the role of the reliable provider.”
Reliable provider? Nah. Not only do I want to play that role for myself, I NEED to. Not everybody can understand that. I don’t even want to buy a house with a man again.
It seems that some of you men feel that if you’re not the provider, you’re misplaced somehow. Understandable. There are different things that can make a man feel loved and needed, when I settle on someone, I’ll have to use another way to meet that need.
novice: “I say if you have this many questions about someone after four dates. Stop wasting yours and his time.”
Novice, I have enjoyed his company. This topic has been the only issue thus far.
December 10, 2007 at 8:26 PM #113592BugsParticipantThis whole thread makes me want to go out and do something nice for my wife (of 17 years), so I can continue to avoid the dating game.
Alternately, it provides a compelling argument in favor of the legalization of prostitution. That way, those men who view women primarily in those terms can render their relationships into a simple, timely, and convenient the-customer-is-always-right transaction, and be free to live the other 98% of their life in a happier and more productive manner. Equally, by taking these guys out of the casual dating pool, the women who remain can get a more accurate perspective of how much their personality is really worth in the open market. Here’s a preview – it won’t be the bad boys who participate in that dating pool.
I say we should delegate the institution of marriage to religion, and fall back on contract law and civil unions to provide the legal protections women aspire to when they refer to wanting security. Make these unions akin to a lease with an initial 1-year term and annual renewals. No more “divorce” – the relationship can end simply as a result of one side or the other not exercising their annual option. That way both sides can avoid the problems of taking their SO for granted.
As for kids and the human race, I think we should get real. By my estimation 80% or more of the children who are born come into this world as a result of a woman wanting to be a mother and a man either letting her do it to make her happy (against his better judgement) or being unable to prevent her from doing it. Whether or not we continue the barbaric custom of treating people like property and calling it a marriage will have no bearing on the continuation of the species.
December 10, 2007 at 8:26 PM #113711BugsParticipantThis whole thread makes me want to go out and do something nice for my wife (of 17 years), so I can continue to avoid the dating game.
Alternately, it provides a compelling argument in favor of the legalization of prostitution. That way, those men who view women primarily in those terms can render their relationships into a simple, timely, and convenient the-customer-is-always-right transaction, and be free to live the other 98% of their life in a happier and more productive manner. Equally, by taking these guys out of the casual dating pool, the women who remain can get a more accurate perspective of how much their personality is really worth in the open market. Here’s a preview – it won’t be the bad boys who participate in that dating pool.
I say we should delegate the institution of marriage to religion, and fall back on contract law and civil unions to provide the legal protections women aspire to when they refer to wanting security. Make these unions akin to a lease with an initial 1-year term and annual renewals. No more “divorce” – the relationship can end simply as a result of one side or the other not exercising their annual option. That way both sides can avoid the problems of taking their SO for granted.
As for kids and the human race, I think we should get real. By my estimation 80% or more of the children who are born come into this world as a result of a woman wanting to be a mother and a man either letting her do it to make her happy (against his better judgement) or being unable to prevent her from doing it. Whether or not we continue the barbaric custom of treating people like property and calling it a marriage will have no bearing on the continuation of the species.
December 10, 2007 at 8:26 PM #113752BugsParticipantThis whole thread makes me want to go out and do something nice for my wife (of 17 years), so I can continue to avoid the dating game.
Alternately, it provides a compelling argument in favor of the legalization of prostitution. That way, those men who view women primarily in those terms can render their relationships into a simple, timely, and convenient the-customer-is-always-right transaction, and be free to live the other 98% of their life in a happier and more productive manner. Equally, by taking these guys out of the casual dating pool, the women who remain can get a more accurate perspective of how much their personality is really worth in the open market. Here’s a preview – it won’t be the bad boys who participate in that dating pool.
I say we should delegate the institution of marriage to religion, and fall back on contract law and civil unions to provide the legal protections women aspire to when they refer to wanting security. Make these unions akin to a lease with an initial 1-year term and annual renewals. No more “divorce” – the relationship can end simply as a result of one side or the other not exercising their annual option. That way both sides can avoid the problems of taking their SO for granted.
As for kids and the human race, I think we should get real. By my estimation 80% or more of the children who are born come into this world as a result of a woman wanting to be a mother and a man either letting her do it to make her happy (against his better judgement) or being unable to prevent her from doing it. Whether or not we continue the barbaric custom of treating people like property and calling it a marriage will have no bearing on the continuation of the species.
December 10, 2007 at 8:26 PM #113758BugsParticipantThis whole thread makes me want to go out and do something nice for my wife (of 17 years), so I can continue to avoid the dating game.
Alternately, it provides a compelling argument in favor of the legalization of prostitution. That way, those men who view women primarily in those terms can render their relationships into a simple, timely, and convenient the-customer-is-always-right transaction, and be free to live the other 98% of their life in a happier and more productive manner. Equally, by taking these guys out of the casual dating pool, the women who remain can get a more accurate perspective of how much their personality is really worth in the open market. Here’s a preview – it won’t be the bad boys who participate in that dating pool.
I say we should delegate the institution of marriage to religion, and fall back on contract law and civil unions to provide the legal protections women aspire to when they refer to wanting security. Make these unions akin to a lease with an initial 1-year term and annual renewals. No more “divorce” – the relationship can end simply as a result of one side or the other not exercising their annual option. That way both sides can avoid the problems of taking their SO for granted.
As for kids and the human race, I think we should get real. By my estimation 80% or more of the children who are born come into this world as a result of a woman wanting to be a mother and a man either letting her do it to make her happy (against his better judgement) or being unable to prevent her from doing it. Whether or not we continue the barbaric custom of treating people like property and calling it a marriage will have no bearing on the continuation of the species.
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