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August 3, 2021 at 10:29 AM #822792August 3, 2021 at 10:32 AM #822793
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Participant[quote=deadzone]I’ve already established the fact that most of the white collar work force, myself included, have been mostly jerking off during the Pandemic. That’s the problem. Can’t go on forever. But sure for now it is great, I make good money, do maybe 25% of the work I used to do for the same pay. Get to go surfing or ride my bike at random times during the “work” day. What’s not to like?
Also I am a manager, nobody is keeping track of my work hours. I just have to make sure the folks that work for me get their shit done.[/quote]
So, does that mean your team’s velocity decreased by 75% over the last year? And you still have your job?August 3, 2021 at 10:57 AM #822794CoronitaParticipant[quote=deadzone][quote=Coronita]
Dude. It’s 10am PST. You should be working at your job. You shouldn’t be moonlighting on the internet on a real estate blog on company time, especially if your company is so inflexible and requires you to account every work hour between 8am-5pm and expects you to have your butt in your workseat during this time even if you don’t have enough work to do because your boss totally underestimated your workload and didn’t give you enough work to occupy your 8 hour/day workshift with 1 hour lunch break.
Only people like me and my team members can do this because I trust they will get their work done if even they decide to take a short 1 hour break and do nothing, as long as they meet their deadlines. And if they get it done earlier, I don’t care what they do for the rest of their time.
Get back to work and complete your work hours and timecard accurately deadzone![/quote]
I’ve already established the fact that most of the white collar work force, myself included, have been mostly jerking off during the Pandemic. That’s the problem. Can’t go on forever. But sure for now it is great, I make good money, do maybe 25% of the work I used to do for the same pay. Get to go surfing or ride my bike at random times during the “work” day. What’s not to like?
Also I am a manager, nobody is keeping track of my work hours. I just have to make sure the folks that work for me get their shit done.[/quote]
You and your company might be jerking off during the pandemic because as I mentioned, your american employer might be one that is in an industry that can digest a bloated operational model riddled with inefficiencies like the defense sector or public sector, but for many companies, we’ve been pretty busy trying to acquire companies during the lockdown. Most of our software and tech we had to quickly re-invent for use in contact tracing and guest tracking in the post-covid economy, so for us many folks had to be on site testing the location technology we are building (field engineers at least). So that’s why we’ve needed to add headcount, because we’ve acquired 4 new major customers and our delivery rate is now roughly 8 mobile apps on each mobile platform (Android and IOS) per quarter, bringing our total apps to about 28 in a year and half of work. So again, maybe that’s the disconnect. You and your coworkers at your employer is jerking off and probably got COLA adjustments and haven’t really seen any additional pickup in business (again, maybe because it’s an inefficient defense or public sector)…But for some of us, we’ve had to add headcount to keep up with the business demand after companies started spending a lot again….The trick is to avoid burning out people so they quit to support all this new work.
August 3, 2021 at 11:37 AM #822795Anonymous
GuestBased on the amount of time you spend posting to this web site, and continually talking about side hustles, you are clearly not very busy at your job either so spare me the lecture. In fact go back through hour own posts complaining about the inefficiencies of you company, wasted time in meetings, etc. You are awash in contradictions.
August 3, 2021 at 11:53 AM #822797sdrealtor
Participant[quote=gzz]Side hustle? I don’t want to hustle at all, front back or side.
I think it would be fun to drive for Uber for a couple hours a month. Chat with people, and do peak times and get people having fun going to parties.
“Yes I am an attorney with a billing rate of $650, but I also like to get out there and meet people sometimes.”
My car is a 2010 so doesn’t qualify for Uber.
The Mazda CX7 and 9 SUVs with leather looks really slick and reasonably priced. That might qualify for UberXL Lux or whatever and let me charge a premium price.
Combine the XL upcharge and only drive during peak hours maybe I can get $100/hr?[/quote]
I think about driving Uber for the fun of it from time to time but never have. With a Tesla I could probably do well. Maybe some day
August 3, 2021 at 12:18 PM #822796Participant[quote=deadzone][quote=Coronita][quote=deadzone][quote=Coronita][quote=scaredyclassic]If a remote employee in an RV gets in a wreck while on the clock, is the company liable for those damages?[/quote]
No because, technically i dont know about it officially and dont officially recognize it. its like giving someone under the table comp time. i make them fill out the timecard with a PTO request and they take the comp day off. if something happens to them , I approve and process the pto request, and then its on them… if nothing happens, when they get back, i reject and delete the pto request so it doesnt count against their balance. Same deal, i habe them fill out s month worth of PTO at a time, and if nothing happens i reject it at the end of the month. and open a new one for the next month. while the pto request is pending, no one else. sees it except me. And if anyone asks, ill just say hes planning to take an extended pto, but we are working out the details….
This isnt rocket science.[/quote]
Good luck explaining that to the lawyers[/quote]
why would this be any different from you driving a car on a lunch break and get into an at fault accident becaise you were dumb enough to check your email while driving? Is your employer legally liable?
I think you are just pissed that the world is changing , and others are able to take advantage of the new opportunities that for whatever reasons either you arent available to you or for some reason you are hell bent on sticking with whst you are currently doing and cant get over the fact theres better ways to doing things than just to camp out on the same thing unappreciated getting that COLA adjustment each year and then complaining about it not keeping up with rising cost of everything.
the bigger threat to remote workers is employers are no longer suck with locale mediocre talent and paying them higher socal wages to do the work. so that. money goes a lot further in ehat you can get.[/quote]
All of this talk of entitled workers attitudes is so reminiscent of the .com bubble. Late 90s engineers had their pick of jobs, all chasing the next startup. And it didn’t matter how good they were since VC money was flowing like the Niagara Falls. The only difference now is the money is slowing even more thanks to the Fed. So sure the world is changing at least temporarily since there is so much easy money companies don’t have to worry about being productive. But at some point, when the music stops, these lazy remote working, entitled workers are going to be in for a rude awakening.
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You know what that rude awakening actually looked like? They took their dot com money and bought a nice home for $400-500K and its now worth almost 5 times that. I know a whole bunch of people like that
The idea that the world is fair and there is some kind of rude awakening written in stone is something people who are afraid to take chances use to justify their failures
August 3, 2021 at 12:18 PM #822800Guest[quote=sdrealtor][quote=gzz]Side hustle? I don’t want to hustle at all, front back or side.
I think it would be fun to drive for Uber for a couple hours a month. Chat with people, and do peak times and get people having fun going to parties.
“Yes I am an attorney with a billing rate of $650, but I also like to get out there and meet people sometimes.”
My car is a 2010 so doesn’t qualify for Uber.
The Mazda CX7 and 9 SUVs with leather looks really slick and reasonably priced. That might qualify for UberXL Lux or whatever and let me charge a premium price.
Combine the XL upcharge and only drive during peak hours maybe I can get $100/hr?[/quote]
I think about driving Uber for the fun of it from time to time but never have. With a Tesla I could probably do well. Maybe some day[/quote]
You gotta be really hurting for money if you drive for Uber. Better ways to meet people if that’s your thing.
August 3, 2021 at 12:18 PM #822801scaredyclassic
ParticipantWhy not require an oath of fealty prior to employment?
Becoming a serf
A freeman became a serf usually through force or necessity. Sometimes the greater physical and legal force of a local magnate intimidated freeholders or allodial owners into dependency. Often a few years of crop failure, a war, or brigandage might leave a person unable to make his own way. In such a case, he could strike a bargain with a lord of a manor. In exchange for gaining protection, his service was required: in labour, produce, or cash, or a combination of all. These bargains became formalised in a ceremony known as “bondage”, in which a serf placed his head in the lord’s hands, akin to the ceremony of homage where a vassal placed his hands between those of his overlord. These oaths bound the lord and his new serf in a feudal contract and defined the terms of their agreement.[19] Often these bargains were severe.
A 7th-century Anglo Saxon “Oath of Fealty” states:
By the Lord before whom this sanctuary is holy, I will to N. be true and faithful, and love all which he loves and shun all which he shuns, according to the laws of God and the order of the world. Nor will I ever with will or action, through word or deed, do anything which is unpleasing to him, on condition that he will hold to me as I shall deserve it, and that he will perform everything as it was in our agreement when I submitted myself to him and chose his will.
To become a serf was a commitment that encompassed all aspects of the serf’s life.
Moreover, the children born to a serf inherited the status of the parent, and were considered born into serfdom at birth. By taking on the duties of serfdom, individuals bound not only themselves but their future progeny.
August 3, 2021 at 12:26 PM #822802CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]Why not require an oath of fealty prior to employment?
Becoming a serf
A freeman became a serf usually through force or necessity. Sometimes the greater physical and legal force of a local magnate intimidated freeholders or allodial owners into dependency. Often a few years of crop failure, a war, or brigandage might leave a person unable to make his own way. In such a case, he could strike a bargain with a lord of a manor. In exchange for gaining protection, his service was required: in labour, produce, or cash, or a combination of all. These bargains became formalised in a ceremony known as “bondage”, in which a serf placed his head in the lord’s hands, akin to the ceremony of homage where a vassal placed his hands between those of his overlord. These oaths bound the lord and his new serf in a feudal contract and defined the terms of their agreement.[19] Often these bargains were severe.
A 7th-century Anglo Saxon “Oath of Fealty” states:
By the Lord before whom this sanctuary is holy, I will to N. be true and faithful, and love all which he loves and shun all which he shuns, according to the laws of God and the order of the world. Nor will I ever with will or action, through word or deed, do anything which is unpleasing to him, on condition that he will hold to me as I shall deserve it, and that he will perform everything as it was in our agreement when I submitted myself to him and chose his will.
To become a serf was a commitment that encompassed all aspects of the serf’s life.
Moreover, the children born to a serf inherited the status of the parent, and were considered born into serfdom at birth. By taking on the duties of serfdom, individuals bound not only themselves but their future progeny.[/quote]
Lol…. That reads like an employment contract at a defense company or public sector with a 2-3% COLA guarantee…
Wasn’t capitalism suppose to replace serfdom?
August 3, 2021 at 12:27 PM #822803Participant[quote=deadzone][quote=sdrealtor][quote=gzz]Side hustle? I don’t want to hustle at all, front back or side.
I think it would be fun to drive for Uber for a couple hours a month. Chat with people, and do peak times and get people having fun going to parties.
“Yes I am an attorney with a billing rate of $650, but I also like to get out there and meet people sometimes.”
My car is a 2010 so doesn’t qualify for Uber.
The Mazda CX7 and 9 SUVs with leather looks really slick and reasonably priced. That might qualify for UberXL Lux or whatever and let me charge a premium price.
Combine the XL upcharge and only drive during peak hours maybe I can get $100/hr?[/quote]
I think about driving Uber for the fun of it from time to time but never have. With a Tesla I could probably do well. Maybe some day[/quote]
You gotta be really hurting for money if you drive for Uber. Better ways to meet people if that’s your thing.[/quote]
Dude you are so out of touch. There are professional athletes that do it and they certainly arent hurting for money. They do it for fun.
August 3, 2021 at 12:28 PM #822804Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]Why not require an oath of fealty prior to employment?
Becoming a serf
A freeman became a serf usually through force or necessity. Sometimes the greater physical and legal force of a local magnate intimidated freeholders or allodial owners into dependency. Often a few years of crop failure, a war, or brigandage might leave a person unable to make his own way. In such a case, he could strike a bargain with a lord of a manor. In exchange for gaining protection, his service was required: in labour, produce, or cash, or a combination of all. These bargains became formalised in a ceremony known as “bondage”, in which a serf placed his head in the lord’s hands, akin to the ceremony of homage where a vassal placed his hands between those of his overlord. These oaths bound the lord and his new serf in a feudal contract and defined the terms of their agreement.[19] Often these bargains were severe.
A 7th-century Anglo Saxon “Oath of Fealty” states:
By the Lord before whom this sanctuary is holy, I will to N. be true and faithful, and love all which he loves and shun all which he shuns, according to the laws of God and the order of the world. Nor will I ever with will or action, through word or deed, do anything which is unpleasing to him, on condition that he will hold to me as I shall deserve it, and that he will perform everything as it was in our agreement when I submitted myself to him and chose his will.
To become a serf was a commitment that encompassed all aspects of the serf’s life.
Moreover, the children born to a serf inherited the status of the parent, and were considered born into serfdom at birth. By taking on the duties of serfdom, individuals bound not only themselves but their future progeny.[/quote]
uh… noAugust 3, 2021 at 12:56 PM #822805Guest[quote=sdrealtor]
Dude you are so out of touch. There are professional athletes that do it and they certainly arent hurting for money. They do it for fun.[/quote]Like who specifically? You are full of crap like usual. Oh wait, my Uber driver yesterday did look kind of like Manny Machado, and he was wearing a Swag Chain, didn’t even consider it was actually him!
August 3, 2021 at 1:20 PM #822806Participant[quote=deadzone][quote=sdrealtor]
Dude you are so out of touch. There are professional athletes that do it and they certainly arent hurting for money. They do it for fun.[/quote]Like who specifically? You are full of crap like usual. Oh wait, my Uber driver yesterday did look kind of like Manny Machado, and he was wearing a Swag Chain, didn’t even consider it was actually him![/quote]
Ive read lots of stories over the years. Just did a quick google. Shaq did it once or twice also
https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/us/famous-uber-drivers/index.html
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/slideshow/Celebrity-Uber-drivers-163519.php
Apology accepted
August 3, 2021 at 2:17 PM #822807ParticipantLooks like LinkedIn productivity will decrease by 75%.
https://nypost.com/2021/07/29/linkedin-says-most-employees-can-work-from-home-forever/
August 3, 2021 at 3:01 PM #822808Guest[quote=an]Looks like LinkedIn productivity will decrease by 75%.
https://nypost.com/2021/07/29/linkedin-says-most-employees-can-work-from-home-forever/%5B/quote%5D
Perhaps, but then again what does Linkin actually “produce”?
I thought the more interesting thing is the companion article about folks leaving Silicon Valley to work remotely in other parts of the country having their salaries adjusted downward. Folks on this site seem insistent that pay is not going to be adjusted based on where the they person lives. Mark Zuckerberg begs to differ:
“We’ll adjust salary to your location at that point,” said Zuckerberg, “There’ll be severe ramifications for people who are not honest about this.”
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