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October 19, 2008 at 11:52 PM #290367October 20, 2008 at 12:11 AM #290026anParticipant
[quote=gandalf]Anyway, back to the discussion. I think there’s a real opportunity for a third party to emerge in this country right now. Look at the number of independents. Look at what’s happened to conservatives within the republican party. Look at the votes for Ron Paul.
The Gen-X crowd doesn’t buy into the whole left vs. right Vietnam zeitgeist. It’s a bunch of baby boomer bullshit to us. I’m not sure how something like that would get started but I’d wager there’s a 50/50 chance there’s a major new political party competing for power by 2020.
If I was still GOP, I’d be really, really concerned about the future of the party right now. Short of diebold-style vote-rigging and voter suppression, it’s going to be a wipeout in three weeks. And I don’t see how it gets any better given the cast of characters in charge of the GOP.
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I seriously hope you’re right. All I can do is cast my vote for Bob Barr and hope others would too and bring in some real change to Washington. I don’t think the GOP will be the only party that will lose votes & support. I was a registered Democrat up until this year. When I was a broke ass student, I didn’t really care too much about the economic part, and since I align with the social acceptance part (gay marriage, abortion, etc) of the Democrat party, I registered and voted as such. But now that I’m no longer broke, I found out I do not like the Democrat’s economic policies. However, I still want those social openness/acceptance of the Democrat party. Which is why I picked the Libertarian party. They’re a good blend between the Dem & Rep in my eyes.October 20, 2008 at 12:11 AM #290334anParticipant[quote=gandalf]Anyway, back to the discussion. I think there’s a real opportunity for a third party to emerge in this country right now. Look at the number of independents. Look at what’s happened to conservatives within the republican party. Look at the votes for Ron Paul.
The Gen-X crowd doesn’t buy into the whole left vs. right Vietnam zeitgeist. It’s a bunch of baby boomer bullshit to us. I’m not sure how something like that would get started but I’d wager there’s a 50/50 chance there’s a major new political party competing for power by 2020.
If I was still GOP, I’d be really, really concerned about the future of the party right now. Short of diebold-style vote-rigging and voter suppression, it’s going to be a wipeout in three weeks. And I don’t see how it gets any better given the cast of characters in charge of the GOP.
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I seriously hope you’re right. All I can do is cast my vote for Bob Barr and hope others would too and bring in some real change to Washington. I don’t think the GOP will be the only party that will lose votes & support. I was a registered Democrat up until this year. When I was a broke ass student, I didn’t really care too much about the economic part, and since I align with the social acceptance part (gay marriage, abortion, etc) of the Democrat party, I registered and voted as such. But now that I’m no longer broke, I found out I do not like the Democrat’s economic policies. However, I still want those social openness/acceptance of the Democrat party. Which is why I picked the Libertarian party. They’re a good blend between the Dem & Rep in my eyes.October 20, 2008 at 12:11 AM #290340anParticipant[quote=gandalf]Anyway, back to the discussion. I think there’s a real opportunity for a third party to emerge in this country right now. Look at the number of independents. Look at what’s happened to conservatives within the republican party. Look at the votes for Ron Paul.
The Gen-X crowd doesn’t buy into the whole left vs. right Vietnam zeitgeist. It’s a bunch of baby boomer bullshit to us. I’m not sure how something like that would get started but I’d wager there’s a 50/50 chance there’s a major new political party competing for power by 2020.
If I was still GOP, I’d be really, really concerned about the future of the party right now. Short of diebold-style vote-rigging and voter suppression, it’s going to be a wipeout in three weeks. And I don’t see how it gets any better given the cast of characters in charge of the GOP.
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I seriously hope you’re right. All I can do is cast my vote for Bob Barr and hope others would too and bring in some real change to Washington. I don’t think the GOP will be the only party that will lose votes & support. I was a registered Democrat up until this year. When I was a broke ass student, I didn’t really care too much about the economic part, and since I align with the social acceptance part (gay marriage, abortion, etc) of the Democrat party, I registered and voted as such. But now that I’m no longer broke, I found out I do not like the Democrat’s economic policies. However, I still want those social openness/acceptance of the Democrat party. Which is why I picked the Libertarian party. They’re a good blend between the Dem & Rep in my eyes.October 20, 2008 at 12:11 AM #290373anParticipant[quote=gandalf]Anyway, back to the discussion. I think there’s a real opportunity for a third party to emerge in this country right now. Look at the number of independents. Look at what’s happened to conservatives within the republican party. Look at the votes for Ron Paul.
The Gen-X crowd doesn’t buy into the whole left vs. right Vietnam zeitgeist. It’s a bunch of baby boomer bullshit to us. I’m not sure how something like that would get started but I’d wager there’s a 50/50 chance there’s a major new political party competing for power by 2020.
If I was still GOP, I’d be really, really concerned about the future of the party right now. Short of diebold-style vote-rigging and voter suppression, it’s going to be a wipeout in three weeks. And I don’t see how it gets any better given the cast of characters in charge of the GOP.
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I seriously hope you’re right. All I can do is cast my vote for Bob Barr and hope others would too and bring in some real change to Washington. I don’t think the GOP will be the only party that will lose votes & support. I was a registered Democrat up until this year. When I was a broke ass student, I didn’t really care too much about the economic part, and since I align with the social acceptance part (gay marriage, abortion, etc) of the Democrat party, I registered and voted as such. But now that I’m no longer broke, I found out I do not like the Democrat’s economic policies. However, I still want those social openness/acceptance of the Democrat party. Which is why I picked the Libertarian party. They’re a good blend between the Dem & Rep in my eyes.October 20, 2008 at 12:11 AM #290377anParticipant[quote=gandalf]Anyway, back to the discussion. I think there’s a real opportunity for a third party to emerge in this country right now. Look at the number of independents. Look at what’s happened to conservatives within the republican party. Look at the votes for Ron Paul.
The Gen-X crowd doesn’t buy into the whole left vs. right Vietnam zeitgeist. It’s a bunch of baby boomer bullshit to us. I’m not sure how something like that would get started but I’d wager there’s a 50/50 chance there’s a major new political party competing for power by 2020.
If I was still GOP, I’d be really, really concerned about the future of the party right now. Short of diebold-style vote-rigging and voter suppression, it’s going to be a wipeout in three weeks. And I don’t see how it gets any better given the cast of characters in charge of the GOP.
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I seriously hope you’re right. All I can do is cast my vote for Bob Barr and hope others would too and bring in some real change to Washington. I don’t think the GOP will be the only party that will lose votes & support. I was a registered Democrat up until this year. When I was a broke ass student, I didn’t really care too much about the economic part, and since I align with the social acceptance part (gay marriage, abortion, etc) of the Democrat party, I registered and voted as such. But now that I’m no longer broke, I found out I do not like the Democrat’s economic policies. However, I still want those social openness/acceptance of the Democrat party. Which is why I picked the Libertarian party. They’re a good blend between the Dem & Rep in my eyes.October 20, 2008 at 5:30 AM #290031AnonymousGuestSo instead of paying taxes to government, Business will increase expenses , which adds risk, by hiring more workers. But the increased risk will not be off set by higher poteneial gains. Why? … DUH oh ya the higher taxes will take them away!!
Business alternatives: 1)Reduce risk by maintaining a Known level of profit margin by limiting the risk associated with expansion with limited profit potential (due to higher taxes ie. low job growth)
2)Move operations over seas where restrictions and risk are less.October 20, 2008 at 5:30 AM #290339AnonymousGuestSo instead of paying taxes to government, Business will increase expenses , which adds risk, by hiring more workers. But the increased risk will not be off set by higher poteneial gains. Why? … DUH oh ya the higher taxes will take them away!!
Business alternatives: 1)Reduce risk by maintaining a Known level of profit margin by limiting the risk associated with expansion with limited profit potential (due to higher taxes ie. low job growth)
2)Move operations over seas where restrictions and risk are less.October 20, 2008 at 5:30 AM #290345AnonymousGuestSo instead of paying taxes to government, Business will increase expenses , which adds risk, by hiring more workers. But the increased risk will not be off set by higher poteneial gains. Why? … DUH oh ya the higher taxes will take them away!!
Business alternatives: 1)Reduce risk by maintaining a Known level of profit margin by limiting the risk associated with expansion with limited profit potential (due to higher taxes ie. low job growth)
2)Move operations over seas where restrictions and risk are less.October 20, 2008 at 5:30 AM #290378AnonymousGuestSo instead of paying taxes to government, Business will increase expenses , which adds risk, by hiring more workers. But the increased risk will not be off set by higher poteneial gains. Why? … DUH oh ya the higher taxes will take them away!!
Business alternatives: 1)Reduce risk by maintaining a Known level of profit margin by limiting the risk associated with expansion with limited profit potential (due to higher taxes ie. low job growth)
2)Move operations over seas where restrictions and risk are less.October 20, 2008 at 5:30 AM #290382AnonymousGuestSo instead of paying taxes to government, Business will increase expenses , which adds risk, by hiring more workers. But the increased risk will not be off set by higher poteneial gains. Why? … DUH oh ya the higher taxes will take them away!!
Business alternatives: 1)Reduce risk by maintaining a Known level of profit margin by limiting the risk associated with expansion with limited profit potential (due to higher taxes ie. low job growth)
2)Move operations over seas where restrictions and risk are less.October 20, 2008 at 7:28 AM #290051socratttParticipant[quote=TheBreeze]
The right has told so many lies and used so many baseless scare tactics that their credibility is completely shot. Take your scare tactics and shove them up your ass.
[/quote]Is it conspiracy to look at Obama’s pastor? I don’t think so. Was WMD an excuse to keep Iran from paying Euro for oil? Possibly. Again, look at your response breeze, so ignorant. If you have something to say please next time don’t be so eloquent. These are the type of ignorant responses that make me question about the lack of education on this board.
October 20, 2008 at 7:28 AM #290359socratttParticipant[quote=TheBreeze]
The right has told so many lies and used so many baseless scare tactics that their credibility is completely shot. Take your scare tactics and shove them up your ass.
[/quote]Is it conspiracy to look at Obama’s pastor? I don’t think so. Was WMD an excuse to keep Iran from paying Euro for oil? Possibly. Again, look at your response breeze, so ignorant. If you have something to say please next time don’t be so eloquent. These are the type of ignorant responses that make me question about the lack of education on this board.
October 20, 2008 at 7:28 AM #290366socratttParticipant[quote=TheBreeze]
The right has told so many lies and used so many baseless scare tactics that their credibility is completely shot. Take your scare tactics and shove them up your ass.
[/quote]Is it conspiracy to look at Obama’s pastor? I don’t think so. Was WMD an excuse to keep Iran from paying Euro for oil? Possibly. Again, look at your response breeze, so ignorant. If you have something to say please next time don’t be so eloquent. These are the type of ignorant responses that make me question about the lack of education on this board.
October 20, 2008 at 7:28 AM #290398socratttParticipant[quote=TheBreeze]
The right has told so many lies and used so many baseless scare tactics that their credibility is completely shot. Take your scare tactics and shove them up your ass.
[/quote]Is it conspiracy to look at Obama’s pastor? I don’t think so. Was WMD an excuse to keep Iran from paying Euro for oil? Possibly. Again, look at your response breeze, so ignorant. If you have something to say please next time don’t be so eloquent. These are the type of ignorant responses that make me question about the lack of education on this board.
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