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February 12, 2008 at 4:15 PM #11801
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February 12, 2008 at 4:51 PM #152336
contraman
ParticipantI almost forgot. If you are going to follow my 5 Step Plan be sure to consult with a good RE ATTORNEY and CPA for guidance….. 🙂
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 6:11 PM #152365
jpinpb
ParticipantContra – All I can say is where the hell were you two years ago in my life.
I’ve been going about this ALL wrong. GRRRR.
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February 12, 2008 at 6:11 PM #152639
jpinpb
ParticipantContra – All I can say is where the hell were you two years ago in my life.
I’ve been going about this ALL wrong. GRRRR.
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February 12, 2008 at 6:11 PM #152646
jpinpb
ParticipantContra – All I can say is where the hell were you two years ago in my life.
I’ve been going about this ALL wrong. GRRRR.
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February 12, 2008 at 6:11 PM #152670
jpinpb
ParticipantContra – All I can say is where the hell were you two years ago in my life.
I’ve been going about this ALL wrong. GRRRR.
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February 12, 2008 at 6:11 PM #152743
jpinpb
ParticipantContra – All I can say is where the hell were you two years ago in my life.
I’ve been going about this ALL wrong. GRRRR.
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February 12, 2008 at 6:15 PM #152370
jpinpb
ParticipantCan you really remove a foreclosure in 2 years from your credit report? I thought that craps stays on for seven years.
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February 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM #152400
Sandi Egan
ParticipantTo think I listened to all bears on this forum 3 years ago and missed such an opportunity… cr-rap!
Is it too late now? What can one do to get a 0-down 2/28 on a mcMansion these days? -
February 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM #152678
Sandi Egan
ParticipantTo think I listened to all bears on this forum 3 years ago and missed such an opportunity… cr-rap!
Is it too late now? What can one do to get a 0-down 2/28 on a mcMansion these days? -
February 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM #152684
Sandi Egan
ParticipantTo think I listened to all bears on this forum 3 years ago and missed such an opportunity… cr-rap!
Is it too late now? What can one do to get a 0-down 2/28 on a mcMansion these days? -
February 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM #152705
Sandi Egan
ParticipantTo think I listened to all bears on this forum 3 years ago and missed such an opportunity… cr-rap!
Is it too late now? What can one do to get a 0-down 2/28 on a mcMansion these days? -
February 12, 2008 at 7:34 PM #152778
Sandi Egan
ParticipantTo think I listened to all bears on this forum 3 years ago and missed such an opportunity… cr-rap!
Is it too late now? What can one do to get a 0-down 2/28 on a mcMansion these days? -
February 12, 2008 at 8:01 PM #152420
contraman
ParticipantForeclosures are fairly easy to remove. Awhile back I underwent a certification for credit repair from a lady who has been working with celebs and sports figures for 18 years repairing and optimizing their credit. The stuff I learned about the credit industry, personal credit, and business credit was mind boggling. I was able to get my scores over 800 in a short period of time.
It is amazing that something so important as personal credit and how the system rewards and punishes a person is so misunderstood by the general public or not even understood at all. Hell, I would have rather taken this course in High School versus American History. John Adams can’t do a damn thing to help me now……
By the way, next time we cycle up in the market and the easy credit comes back..I will do loans for you guys on properties you can strip and default on because RE never goes down and everyone wants to live in San Diego…….you won’t even need a job to qualify….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM #152445
patientrenter
Participantcontraman, clearly you’re irritated by the shenanigans that borrowers engaged in, and the reaction of the “adults”, who are falling over themselves to prevent full punishment for the multitudes who enagaged in the shenanigans.
It is absolutely infuriating when people who were given very valuable and almost free put options on a housing asset now are portrayed as victims, and everyone is throwing money in their direction, pretending that it’s a rescue effort for the larger economy, “to help us all out”. It’s nothing but a selfish bailout for the people who took a risk and lost the bet.
All but the dumbest 1% of buyers, mortgage brokers, investors etc knew in their hearts exactly what was going on, that they were going to get rich if the markets kept going up at unsustainable rates for just a few more years. Now some realize the music has stopped and they lost the bet. And they don’t want to pay. Now they want to have someone else to pick up most of their tab, “in the interests of the greater economy”. And they are getting lots of help. BS.
OK, I’ve had my evening wine and am now finished my emotional rant. Back to figuring out how I can get a decent home of my own without paying an arm and a leg.
Patient renter in OC
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February 13, 2008 at 7:22 AM #152574
jpinpb
ParticipantPatient renter in OC – I haven’t been looking there, since I’m trying to buy a place in SD. But haven’t prices come down there? Probably you’re hoping to buy in a decent part of town, but I’ve seen some places come down here. Some places dowtown are nosediving off the top of their highrise. I’m sure there’s a way to go for everyone, but if I found a place I like that I can afford, I won’t wait. I’ve seen some places I want, but still too out of reach, made low offers on some bank owned and denied. What has been the situation in OC? Just curious.
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February 13, 2008 at 7:22 AM #152858
jpinpb
ParticipantPatient renter in OC – I haven’t been looking there, since I’m trying to buy a place in SD. But haven’t prices come down there? Probably you’re hoping to buy in a decent part of town, but I’ve seen some places come down here. Some places dowtown are nosediving off the top of their highrise. I’m sure there’s a way to go for everyone, but if I found a place I like that I can afford, I won’t wait. I’ve seen some places I want, but still too out of reach, made low offers on some bank owned and denied. What has been the situation in OC? Just curious.
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February 13, 2008 at 7:22 AM #152860
jpinpb
ParticipantPatient renter in OC – I haven’t been looking there, since I’m trying to buy a place in SD. But haven’t prices come down there? Probably you’re hoping to buy in a decent part of town, but I’ve seen some places come down here. Some places dowtown are nosediving off the top of their highrise. I’m sure there’s a way to go for everyone, but if I found a place I like that I can afford, I won’t wait. I’ve seen some places I want, but still too out of reach, made low offers on some bank owned and denied. What has been the situation in OC? Just curious.
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February 13, 2008 at 7:22 AM #152882
jpinpb
ParticipantPatient renter in OC – I haven’t been looking there, since I’m trying to buy a place in SD. But haven’t prices come down there? Probably you’re hoping to buy in a decent part of town, but I’ve seen some places come down here. Some places dowtown are nosediving off the top of their highrise. I’m sure there’s a way to go for everyone, but if I found a place I like that I can afford, I won’t wait. I’ve seen some places I want, but still too out of reach, made low offers on some bank owned and denied. What has been the situation in OC? Just curious.
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February 13, 2008 at 7:22 AM #152958
jpinpb
ParticipantPatient renter in OC – I haven’t been looking there, since I’m trying to buy a place in SD. But haven’t prices come down there? Probably you’re hoping to buy in a decent part of town, but I’ve seen some places come down here. Some places dowtown are nosediving off the top of their highrise. I’m sure there’s a way to go for everyone, but if I found a place I like that I can afford, I won’t wait. I’ve seen some places I want, but still too out of reach, made low offers on some bank owned and denied. What has been the situation in OC? Just curious.
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February 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM #152723
patientrenter
Participantcontraman, clearly you’re irritated by the shenanigans that borrowers engaged in, and the reaction of the “adults”, who are falling over themselves to prevent full punishment for the multitudes who enagaged in the shenanigans.
It is absolutely infuriating when people who were given very valuable and almost free put options on a housing asset now are portrayed as victims, and everyone is throwing money in their direction, pretending that it’s a rescue effort for the larger economy, “to help us all out”. It’s nothing but a selfish bailout for the people who took a risk and lost the bet.
All but the dumbest 1% of buyers, mortgage brokers, investors etc knew in their hearts exactly what was going on, that they were going to get rich if the markets kept going up at unsustainable rates for just a few more years. Now some realize the music has stopped and they lost the bet. And they don’t want to pay. Now they want to have someone else to pick up most of their tab, “in the interests of the greater economy”. And they are getting lots of help. BS.
OK, I’ve had my evening wine and am now finished my emotional rant. Back to figuring out how I can get a decent home of my own without paying an arm and a leg.
Patient renter in OC
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February 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM #152727
patientrenter
Participantcontraman, clearly you’re irritated by the shenanigans that borrowers engaged in, and the reaction of the “adults”, who are falling over themselves to prevent full punishment for the multitudes who enagaged in the shenanigans.
It is absolutely infuriating when people who were given very valuable and almost free put options on a housing asset now are portrayed as victims, and everyone is throwing money in their direction, pretending that it’s a rescue effort for the larger economy, “to help us all out”. It’s nothing but a selfish bailout for the people who took a risk and lost the bet.
All but the dumbest 1% of buyers, mortgage brokers, investors etc knew in their hearts exactly what was going on, that they were going to get rich if the markets kept going up at unsustainable rates for just a few more years. Now some realize the music has stopped and they lost the bet. And they don’t want to pay. Now they want to have someone else to pick up most of their tab, “in the interests of the greater economy”. And they are getting lots of help. BS.
OK, I’ve had my evening wine and am now finished my emotional rant. Back to figuring out how I can get a decent home of my own without paying an arm and a leg.
Patient renter in OC
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February 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM #152752
patientrenter
Participantcontraman, clearly you’re irritated by the shenanigans that borrowers engaged in, and the reaction of the “adults”, who are falling over themselves to prevent full punishment for the multitudes who enagaged in the shenanigans.
It is absolutely infuriating when people who were given very valuable and almost free put options on a housing asset now are portrayed as victims, and everyone is throwing money in their direction, pretending that it’s a rescue effort for the larger economy, “to help us all out”. It’s nothing but a selfish bailout for the people who took a risk and lost the bet.
All but the dumbest 1% of buyers, mortgage brokers, investors etc knew in their hearts exactly what was going on, that they were going to get rich if the markets kept going up at unsustainable rates for just a few more years. Now some realize the music has stopped and they lost the bet. And they don’t want to pay. Now they want to have someone else to pick up most of their tab, “in the interests of the greater economy”. And they are getting lots of help. BS.
OK, I’ve had my evening wine and am now finished my emotional rant. Back to figuring out how I can get a decent home of my own without paying an arm and a leg.
Patient renter in OC
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February 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM #152824
patientrenter
Participantcontraman, clearly you’re irritated by the shenanigans that borrowers engaged in, and the reaction of the “adults”, who are falling over themselves to prevent full punishment for the multitudes who enagaged in the shenanigans.
It is absolutely infuriating when people who were given very valuable and almost free put options on a housing asset now are portrayed as victims, and everyone is throwing money in their direction, pretending that it’s a rescue effort for the larger economy, “to help us all out”. It’s nothing but a selfish bailout for the people who took a risk and lost the bet.
All but the dumbest 1% of buyers, mortgage brokers, investors etc knew in their hearts exactly what was going on, that they were going to get rich if the markets kept going up at unsustainable rates for just a few more years. Now some realize the music has stopped and they lost the bet. And they don’t want to pay. Now they want to have someone else to pick up most of their tab, “in the interests of the greater economy”. And they are getting lots of help. BS.
OK, I’ve had my evening wine and am now finished my emotional rant. Back to figuring out how I can get a decent home of my own without paying an arm and a leg.
Patient renter in OC
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February 12, 2008 at 8:01 PM #152698
contraman
ParticipantForeclosures are fairly easy to remove. Awhile back I underwent a certification for credit repair from a lady who has been working with celebs and sports figures for 18 years repairing and optimizing their credit. The stuff I learned about the credit industry, personal credit, and business credit was mind boggling. I was able to get my scores over 800 in a short period of time.
It is amazing that something so important as personal credit and how the system rewards and punishes a person is so misunderstood by the general public or not even understood at all. Hell, I would have rather taken this course in High School versus American History. John Adams can’t do a damn thing to help me now……
By the way, next time we cycle up in the market and the easy credit comes back..I will do loans for you guys on properties you can strip and default on because RE never goes down and everyone wants to live in San Diego…….you won’t even need a job to qualify….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 8:01 PM #152701
contraman
ParticipantForeclosures are fairly easy to remove. Awhile back I underwent a certification for credit repair from a lady who has been working with celebs and sports figures for 18 years repairing and optimizing their credit. The stuff I learned about the credit industry, personal credit, and business credit was mind boggling. I was able to get my scores over 800 in a short period of time.
It is amazing that something so important as personal credit and how the system rewards and punishes a person is so misunderstood by the general public or not even understood at all. Hell, I would have rather taken this course in High School versus American History. John Adams can’t do a damn thing to help me now……
By the way, next time we cycle up in the market and the easy credit comes back..I will do loans for you guys on properties you can strip and default on because RE never goes down and everyone wants to live in San Diego…….you won’t even need a job to qualify….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 8:01 PM #152725
contraman
ParticipantForeclosures are fairly easy to remove. Awhile back I underwent a certification for credit repair from a lady who has been working with celebs and sports figures for 18 years repairing and optimizing their credit. The stuff I learned about the credit industry, personal credit, and business credit was mind boggling. I was able to get my scores over 800 in a short period of time.
It is amazing that something so important as personal credit and how the system rewards and punishes a person is so misunderstood by the general public or not even understood at all. Hell, I would have rather taken this course in High School versus American History. John Adams can’t do a damn thing to help me now……
By the way, next time we cycle up in the market and the easy credit comes back..I will do loans for you guys on properties you can strip and default on because RE never goes down and everyone wants to live in San Diego…….you won’t even need a job to qualify….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 8:01 PM #152800
contraman
ParticipantForeclosures are fairly easy to remove. Awhile back I underwent a certification for credit repair from a lady who has been working with celebs and sports figures for 18 years repairing and optimizing their credit. The stuff I learned about the credit industry, personal credit, and business credit was mind boggling. I was able to get my scores over 800 in a short period of time.
It is amazing that something so important as personal credit and how the system rewards and punishes a person is so misunderstood by the general public or not even understood at all. Hell, I would have rather taken this course in High School versus American History. John Adams can’t do a damn thing to help me now……
By the way, next time we cycle up in the market and the easy credit comes back..I will do loans for you guys on properties you can strip and default on because RE never goes down and everyone wants to live in San Diego…….you won’t even need a job to qualify….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 6:15 PM #152645
jpinpb
ParticipantCan you really remove a foreclosure in 2 years from your credit report? I thought that craps stays on for seven years.
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February 12, 2008 at 6:15 PM #152651
jpinpb
ParticipantCan you really remove a foreclosure in 2 years from your credit report? I thought that craps stays on for seven years.
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February 12, 2008 at 6:15 PM #152675
jpinpb
ParticipantCan you really remove a foreclosure in 2 years from your credit report? I thought that craps stays on for seven years.
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February 12, 2008 at 6:15 PM #152748
jpinpb
ParticipantCan you really remove a foreclosure in 2 years from your credit report? I thought that craps stays on for seven years.
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February 12, 2008 at 4:51 PM #152608
contraman
ParticipantI almost forgot. If you are going to follow my 5 Step Plan be sure to consult with a good RE ATTORNEY and CPA for guidance….. 🙂
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 4:51 PM #152612
contraman
ParticipantI almost forgot. If you are going to follow my 5 Step Plan be sure to consult with a good RE ATTORNEY and CPA for guidance….. 🙂
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 4:51 PM #152637
contraman
ParticipantI almost forgot. If you are going to follow my 5 Step Plan be sure to consult with a good RE ATTORNEY and CPA for guidance….. 🙂
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 12, 2008 at 4:51 PM #152713
contraman
ParticipantI almost forgot. If you are going to follow my 5 Step Plan be sure to consult with a good RE ATTORNEY and CPA for guidance….. 🙂
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 8:05 AM #152584
kewp
Participant…..make sure you strip that equity again to buy a bunch of consumer goods to stimulate the economy…
Uh, home equity loans are recourse and you will have to pay them back. I bet a bunch of the walkers are going to find that out the hard way…
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February 13, 2008 at 8:31 AM #152599
contraman
ParticipantKewp,
Your right. All these banks are going to spend millions more (that they don’t have) on expensive “judicial foreclosures” to try to get judgments against 90% of people who are foreclosing.
Then after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Kewp, don’t kid yourself. Go read the RE laws online about the process taken by a bank to have to get one of these judgments….it’s all about the money for these banks….it costs too much versus trustee sale….too risky….
I know you don’t like to hear this but it’s the way the cookie crumbles….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM #152616
kewp
ParticipantThen after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Thanks to Bush, bankruptcies ain’t what they used to be. Its much, much harder to get out from under debt than it used to be.
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February 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM #152756
contraman
ParticipantKewp, Please fill me in on the “specific” BK law changes and why it is “harder these days”.
Please show me in the new BK law the place where a person cannot BK a deficiency judgment.
It’s easy to just say it’s harder these days…but that doesn’t mean it is impossible or that people aren’t doing it with good attorneys……
It’s easy to just say that people who refinanced and cashed out will have to pay the banks back…but the REALITY is…..it ain’t so…..
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM #152844
kewp
ParticipantThe Bush bankruptcy bill…
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/20/pf/bankruptcy_bill/index.htm
It would appear to me that its more difficult to get out from beneath consumer debt nowadays.
You may be right and I may be wrong, I guess we shall see!
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February 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM #153122
kewp
ParticipantThe Bush bankruptcy bill…
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/20/pf/bankruptcy_bill/index.htm
It would appear to me that its more difficult to get out from beneath consumer debt nowadays.
You may be right and I may be wrong, I guess we shall see!
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February 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM #153126
kewp
ParticipantThe Bush bankruptcy bill…
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/20/pf/bankruptcy_bill/index.htm
It would appear to me that its more difficult to get out from beneath consumer debt nowadays.
You may be right and I may be wrong, I guess we shall see!
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February 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM #153148
kewp
ParticipantThe Bush bankruptcy bill…
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/20/pf/bankruptcy_bill/index.htm
It would appear to me that its more difficult to get out from beneath consumer debt nowadays.
You may be right and I may be wrong, I guess we shall see!
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February 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM #153224
kewp
ParticipantThe Bush bankruptcy bill…
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/20/pf/bankruptcy_bill/index.htm
It would appear to me that its more difficult to get out from beneath consumer debt nowadays.
You may be right and I may be wrong, I guess we shall see!
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March 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM #175200
bradford
ParticipantContraman,
Quick question I am trying to repair my credit wanted to see if you had someone I could contact. It sounds like you have a pretty good handle on it and have done this in the past.
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March 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM #175548
bradford
ParticipantContraman,
Quick question I am trying to repair my credit wanted to see if you had someone I could contact. It sounds like you have a pretty good handle on it and have done this in the past.
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March 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM #175553
bradford
ParticipantContraman,
Quick question I am trying to repair my credit wanted to see if you had someone I could contact. It sounds like you have a pretty good handle on it and have done this in the past.
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March 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM #175558
bradford
ParticipantContraman,
Quick question I am trying to repair my credit wanted to see if you had someone I could contact. It sounds like you have a pretty good handle on it and have done this in the past.
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March 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM #175648
bradford
ParticipantContraman,
Quick question I am trying to repair my credit wanted to see if you had someone I could contact. It sounds like you have a pretty good handle on it and have done this in the past.
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February 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM #153032
contraman
ParticipantKewp, Please fill me in on the “specific” BK law changes and why it is “harder these days”.
Please show me in the new BK law the place where a person cannot BK a deficiency judgment.
It’s easy to just say it’s harder these days…but that doesn’t mean it is impossible or that people aren’t doing it with good attorneys……
It’s easy to just say that people who refinanced and cashed out will have to pay the banks back…but the REALITY is…..it ain’t so…..
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM #153034
contraman
ParticipantKewp, Please fill me in on the “specific” BK law changes and why it is “harder these days”.
Please show me in the new BK law the place where a person cannot BK a deficiency judgment.
It’s easy to just say it’s harder these days…but that doesn’t mean it is impossible or that people aren’t doing it with good attorneys……
It’s easy to just say that people who refinanced and cashed out will have to pay the banks back…but the REALITY is…..it ain’t so…..
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM #153056
contraman
ParticipantKewp, Please fill me in on the “specific” BK law changes and why it is “harder these days”.
Please show me in the new BK law the place where a person cannot BK a deficiency judgment.
It’s easy to just say it’s harder these days…but that doesn’t mean it is impossible or that people aren’t doing it with good attorneys……
It’s easy to just say that people who refinanced and cashed out will have to pay the banks back…but the REALITY is…..it ain’t so…..
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM #153134
contraman
ParticipantKewp, Please fill me in on the “specific” BK law changes and why it is “harder these days”.
Please show me in the new BK law the place where a person cannot BK a deficiency judgment.
It’s easy to just say it’s harder these days…but that doesn’t mean it is impossible or that people aren’t doing it with good attorneys……
It’s easy to just say that people who refinanced and cashed out will have to pay the banks back…but the REALITY is…..it ain’t so…..
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM #152900
kewp
ParticipantThen after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Thanks to Bush, bankruptcies ain’t what they used to be. Its much, much harder to get out from under debt than it used to be.
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February 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM #152904
kewp
ParticipantThen after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Thanks to Bush, bankruptcies ain’t what they used to be. Its much, much harder to get out from under debt than it used to be.
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February 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM #152925
kewp
ParticipantThen after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Thanks to Bush, bankruptcies ain’t what they used to be. Its much, much harder to get out from under debt than it used to be.
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February 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM #153000
kewp
ParticipantThen after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Thanks to Bush, bankruptcies ain’t what they used to be. Its much, much harder to get out from under debt than it used to be.
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February 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM #152622
cr
ParticipantThe fatal flaw of this plan is not in the plan itself, but that it’s only relevant to people who were too dumb to understand what they could or could not afford when buying a house in the first place, and in most used cases the worst possible form of financing.
Your advice, troubling as it may be to honest money savers, and people live within their means is the same type of advice these people ignored when buying in the first place.
These people won’t save money they would otherwise put towards a mortgage if they stop paying, they’ll spend it. And credit card debt doesn’t go away after 2 years.
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February 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM #152905
cr
ParticipantThe fatal flaw of this plan is not in the plan itself, but that it’s only relevant to people who were too dumb to understand what they could or could not afford when buying a house in the first place, and in most used cases the worst possible form of financing.
Your advice, troubling as it may be to honest money savers, and people live within their means is the same type of advice these people ignored when buying in the first place.
These people won’t save money they would otherwise put towards a mortgage if they stop paying, they’ll spend it. And credit card debt doesn’t go away after 2 years.
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February 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM #152908
cr
ParticipantThe fatal flaw of this plan is not in the plan itself, but that it’s only relevant to people who were too dumb to understand what they could or could not afford when buying a house in the first place, and in most used cases the worst possible form of financing.
Your advice, troubling as it may be to honest money savers, and people live within their means is the same type of advice these people ignored when buying in the first place.
These people won’t save money they would otherwise put towards a mortgage if they stop paying, they’ll spend it. And credit card debt doesn’t go away after 2 years.
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February 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM #152930
cr
ParticipantThe fatal flaw of this plan is not in the plan itself, but that it’s only relevant to people who were too dumb to understand what they could or could not afford when buying a house in the first place, and in most used cases the worst possible form of financing.
Your advice, troubling as it may be to honest money savers, and people live within their means is the same type of advice these people ignored when buying in the first place.
These people won’t save money they would otherwise put towards a mortgage if they stop paying, they’ll spend it. And credit card debt doesn’t go away after 2 years.
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February 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM #153005
cr
ParticipantThe fatal flaw of this plan is not in the plan itself, but that it’s only relevant to people who were too dumb to understand what they could or could not afford when buying a house in the first place, and in most used cases the worst possible form of financing.
Your advice, troubling as it may be to honest money savers, and people live within their means is the same type of advice these people ignored when buying in the first place.
These people won’t save money they would otherwise put towards a mortgage if they stop paying, they’ll spend it. And credit card debt doesn’t go away after 2 years.
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February 13, 2008 at 8:31 AM #152883
contraman
ParticipantKewp,
Your right. All these banks are going to spend millions more (that they don’t have) on expensive “judicial foreclosures” to try to get judgments against 90% of people who are foreclosing.
Then after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Kewp, don’t kid yourself. Go read the RE laws online about the process taken by a bank to have to get one of these judgments….it’s all about the money for these banks….it costs too much versus trustee sale….too risky….
I know you don’t like to hear this but it’s the way the cookie crumbles….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 8:31 AM #152886
contraman
ParticipantKewp,
Your right. All these banks are going to spend millions more (that they don’t have) on expensive “judicial foreclosures” to try to get judgments against 90% of people who are foreclosing.
Then after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Kewp, don’t kid yourself. Go read the RE laws online about the process taken by a bank to have to get one of these judgments….it’s all about the money for these banks….it costs too much versus trustee sale….too risky….
I know you don’t like to hear this but it’s the way the cookie crumbles….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 8:31 AM #152909
contraman
ParticipantKewp,
Your right. All these banks are going to spend millions more (that they don’t have) on expensive “judicial foreclosures” to try to get judgments against 90% of people who are foreclosing.
Then after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Kewp, don’t kid yourself. Go read the RE laws online about the process taken by a bank to have to get one of these judgments….it’s all about the money for these banks….it costs too much versus trustee sale….too risky….
I know you don’t like to hear this but it’s the way the cookie crumbles….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 8:31 AM #152983
contraman
ParticipantKewp,
Your right. All these banks are going to spend millions more (that they don’t have) on expensive “judicial foreclosures” to try to get judgments against 90% of people who are foreclosing.
Then after this expensive pursuit, they get the judgment against a person who a) can’t pay the judgment b)will most likely Bk out of the judgment.
Kewp, don’t kid yourself. Go read the RE laws online about the process taken by a bank to have to get one of these judgments….it’s all about the money for these banks….it costs too much versus trustee sale….too risky….
I know you don’t like to hear this but it’s the way the cookie crumbles….
Sincerely, Contraman
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February 13, 2008 at 8:05 AM #152868
kewp
Participant…..make sure you strip that equity again to buy a bunch of consumer goods to stimulate the economy…
Uh, home equity loans are recourse and you will have to pay them back. I bet a bunch of the walkers are going to find that out the hard way…
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February 13, 2008 at 8:05 AM #152871
kewp
Participant…..make sure you strip that equity again to buy a bunch of consumer goods to stimulate the economy…
Uh, home equity loans are recourse and you will have to pay them back. I bet a bunch of the walkers are going to find that out the hard way…
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February 13, 2008 at 8:05 AM #152893
kewp
Participant…..make sure you strip that equity again to buy a bunch of consumer goods to stimulate the economy…
Uh, home equity loans are recourse and you will have to pay them back. I bet a bunch of the walkers are going to find that out the hard way…
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February 13, 2008 at 8:05 AM #152968
kewp
Participant…..make sure you strip that equity again to buy a bunch of consumer goods to stimulate the economy…
Uh, home equity loans are recourse and you will have to pay them back. I bet a bunch of the walkers are going to find that out the hard way…
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