$500k and 33years old, when is enough enough?

[Doooh]

I’ve lived on the beach for a year, lived down town for 2, and put 5 years working in point Loma.

San Diego beaches stink, no really they stink. The musty smell hits you like a ton of bricks when entering homes 1-2 blocks from the surf.

9 months out of the year the water is too cold to go in or fish in. I put a GPS on my boat because well, “in San Diego you have to run a radar or GPS because of the fog layer”

If your not socked in fog in the AM you have the coastal layer to deal with most of he day. I think living on the beach is not the ideal, but only a pipe dream that folks make up in thief heads. The reality is colder days and cloudy days that block out the sun.

2-3 months in the summer is prime… If your parking spot doesn’t get stolen. Living on the SD beach was fun for 6 months until reality set in. Its not the tropical paradise that people make up in thier heads.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Doooh]I’ve lived on the beach for a year, lived down town for 2, and put 5 years working in point Loma.

San Diego beaches stink, no really they stink. The musty smell hits you like a ton of bricks when entering homes 1-2 blocks from the surf.

9 months out of the year the water is too cold to go in or fish in. I put a GPS on my boat because well, “in San Diego you have to run a radar or GPS because of the fog layer”

If your not socked in fog in the AM you have the coastal layer to deal with most of he day. I think living on the beach is not the ideal, but only a pipe dream that folks make up in thief heads. The reality is colder days and cloudy days that block out the sun.

2-3 months in the summer is prime… If your parking spot doesn’t get stolen. Living on the SD beach was fun for 6 months until reality set in. Its not the tropical paradise that people make up in thier heads.[/quote]

Once again, I agree. Living inland can get real hot in the summer, but living along the coast can be dismal w/the marine layer. And agree WRT the water temperature. Heck, even the sand. You’d think the city would clean it for the tourists. Full of seaweed. I think that’s probably what you’re smelling. In addition to that, along w/my disenchantment w/PB (stated on another thread) you can smell the urine from the bums and maybe even the drunk people, too, who can’t bother to find a bathroom. (but I suppose that’s not limited to PB – also D/T).

I don’t want to complain. But anyone who says we have the greatest weather, they’re just not being honest w/themselves. And it seems that sometimes the justification for the high home prices comes down to weather.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Doooh]I’ve lived on the beach for a year, lived down town for 2, and put 5 years working in point Loma.

San Diego beaches stink, no really they stink. The musty smell hits you like a ton of bricks when entering homes 1-2 blocks from the surf.

9 months out of the year the water is too cold to go in or fish in. I put a GPS on my boat because well, “in San Diego you have to run a radar or GPS because of the fog layer”

If your not socked in fog in the AM you have the coastal layer to deal with most of he day. I think living on the beach is not the ideal, but only a pipe dream that folks make up in thief heads. The reality is colder days and cloudy days that block out the sun.

2-3 months in the summer is prime… If your parking spot doesn’t get stolen. Living on the SD beach was fun for 6 months until reality set in. Its not the tropical paradise that people make up in thier heads.[/quote]

Once again, I agree. Living inland can get real hot in the summer, but living along the coast can be dismal w/the marine layer. And agree WRT the water temperature. Heck, even the sand. You’d think the city would clean it for the tourists. Full of seaweed. I think that’s probably what you’re smelling. In addition to that, along w/my disenchantment w/PB (stated on another thread) you can smell the urine from the bums and maybe even the drunk people, too, who can’t bother to find a bathroom. (but I suppose that’s not limited to PB – also D/T).

I don’t want to complain. But anyone who says we have the greatest weather, they’re just not being honest w/themselves. And it seems that sometimes the justification for the high home prices comes down to weather.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Doooh]I’ve lived on the beach for a year, lived down town for 2, and put 5 years working in point Loma.

San Diego beaches stink, no really they stink. The musty smell hits you like a ton of bricks when entering homes 1-2 blocks from the surf.

9 months out of the year the water is too cold to go in or fish in. I put a GPS on my boat because well, “in San Diego you have to run a radar or GPS because of the fog layer”

If your not socked in fog in the AM you have the coastal layer to deal with most of he day. I think living on the beach is not the ideal, but only a pipe dream that folks make up in thief heads. The reality is colder days and cloudy days that block out the sun.

2-3 months in the summer is prime… If your parking spot doesn’t get stolen. Living on the SD beach was fun for 6 months until reality set in. Its not the tropical paradise that people make up in thier heads.[/quote]

Once again, I agree. Living inland can get real hot in the summer, but living along the coast can be dismal w/the marine layer. And agree WRT the water temperature. Heck, even the sand. You’d think the city would clean it for the tourists. Full of seaweed. I think that’s probably what you’re smelling. In addition to that, along w/my disenchantment w/PB (stated on another thread) you can smell the urine from the bums and maybe even the drunk people, too, who can’t bother to find a bathroom. (but I suppose that’s not limited to PB – also D/T).

I don’t want to complain. But anyone who says we have the greatest weather, they’re just not being honest w/themselves. And it seems that sometimes the justification for the high home prices comes down to weather.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Doooh]I’ve lived on the beach for a year, lived down town for 2, and put 5 years working in point Loma.

San Diego beaches stink, no really they stink. The musty smell hits you like a ton of bricks when entering homes 1-2 blocks from the surf.

9 months out of the year the water is too cold to go in or fish in. I put a GPS on my boat because well, “in San Diego you have to run a radar or GPS because of the fog layer”

If your not socked in fog in the AM you have the coastal layer to deal with most of he day. I think living on the beach is not the ideal, but only a pipe dream that folks make up in thief heads. The reality is colder days and cloudy days that block out the sun.

2-3 months in the summer is prime… If your parking spot doesn’t get stolen. Living on the SD beach was fun for 6 months until reality set in. Its not the tropical paradise that people make up in thier heads.[/quote]

Once again, I agree. Living inland can get real hot in the summer, but living along the coast can be dismal w/the marine layer. And agree WRT the water temperature. Heck, even the sand. You’d think the city would clean it for the tourists. Full of seaweed. I think that’s probably what you’re smelling. In addition to that, along w/my disenchantment w/PB (stated on another thread) you can smell the urine from the bums and maybe even the drunk people, too, who can’t bother to find a bathroom. (but I suppose that’s not limited to PB – also D/T).

I don’t want to complain. But anyone who says we have the greatest weather, they’re just not being honest w/themselves. And it seems that sometimes the justification for the high home prices comes down to weather.

[jpinpb]

[quote=Doooh]I’ve lived on the beach for a year, lived down town for 2, and put 5 years working in point Loma.

San Diego beaches stink, no really they stink. The musty smell hits you like a ton of bricks when entering homes 1-2 blocks from the surf.

9 months out of the year the water is too cold to go in or fish in. I put a GPS on my boat because well, “in San Diego you have to run a radar or GPS because of the fog layer”

If your not socked in fog in the AM you have the coastal layer to deal with most of he day. I think living on the beach is not the ideal, but only a pipe dream that folks make up in thief heads. The reality is colder days and cloudy days that block out the sun.

2-3 months in the summer is prime… If your parking spot doesn’t get stolen. Living on the SD beach was fun for 6 months until reality set in. Its not the tropical paradise that people make up in thier heads.[/quote]

Once again, I agree. Living inland can get real hot in the summer, but living along the coast can be dismal w/the marine layer. And agree WRT the water temperature. Heck, even the sand. You’d think the city would clean it for the tourists. Full of seaweed. I think that’s probably what you’re smelling. In addition to that, along w/my disenchantment w/PB (stated on another thread) you can smell the urine from the bums and maybe even the drunk people, too, who can’t bother to find a bathroom. (but I suppose that’s not limited to PB – also D/T).

I don’t want to complain. But anyone who says we have the greatest weather, they’re just not being honest w/themselves. And it seems that sometimes the justification for the high home prices comes down to weather.

[Doooh]

It’s musty mold. The same thing that happens with bathroom towels, they just don’t every dry out. The carpet always has a bit of moisture in it. The seaweed smell is another lively amenity.

[Doooh]

It’s musty mold. The same thing that happens with bathroom towels, they just don’t every dry out. The carpet always has a bit of moisture in it. The seaweed smell is another lively amenity.

[Doooh]

It’s musty mold. The same thing that happens with bathroom towels, they just don’t every dry out. The carpet always has a bit of moisture in it. The seaweed smell is another lively amenity.

[Doooh]

It’s musty mold. The same thing that happens with bathroom towels, they just don’t every dry out. The carpet always has a bit of moisture in it. The seaweed smell is another lively amenity.

[Doooh]

It’s musty mold. The same thing that happens with bathroom towels, they just don’t every dry out. The carpet always has a bit of moisture in it. The seaweed smell is another lively amenity.

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70]A huge part of San Diego is very affordable. But I agree, these areas have a junky, dingy, low end feel. That is one of the interesting aspects of San Diego, it has this great weather, landscape and places like La Jolla…but SOOO much of San Diego are these dingy, dumpy, completely uninspiring places, like all that I listed. But they are very affordable.

There was a person that posted a while back about thinking about moving back to Minneapolis. See a place like MN, even the blue collar neighborhoods have character. They are tree lined streets with interesting older unique homes, grassy lawns, etc… Pleasing to the senses. But the 2nd and 3rd tier neighborhoods in San Diego are just so junky and eyesores. Central El Cajon? Spring Valley? Parts of Vista, Oceanside, etc.. They are just not aesthetically pleasing areas at all.

To me in San Diego you either have these dingy crappy neighborhoods with houses that look like Mississippi sharecropper shacks below $250k, or you have the soulless cookie cutter stuff in North Coutny with strip center shopping and zero uniqueness in the better neighborhoods (Rancho P, RB, Scripps, Eastlake…everywhere!). I think San Diego in general is just very, very un-appealing architecturally. Except for a few small pockets like Bankers Hill, Mission Hills, and maybe Kensington.

I’m personally mixed on San Diego. I’m not one of those people that are “gaa gaa” over San Diego and think it is the greatest place on earth.

Postives:
1. climate (although the lack of seasons has started to bore me terribly)
2. It is a large enough city with a lot to do and has economic diversity and ethnic diversity
3. You have the hilly topography next to ocean which is very cool and unique
4. There is some really nice hiking that is very accessible close to the urban areas of SD
5. The congestion and traffic is not bad here compared to places like Boston, LA, Bay Area, NYC, DC, Seattle, Chicago. It is super easy to get anywhere you need to go in 15-20 minutes, I love that. That is NOT the case in Boston, SF or LA…it can be a HUGE pain to get places.

Negatives:
1. It has a very, very low mentality in general and does not have an intellectual or progressive feel (that say SF, Seattle, Boston, Manhattan have). The values, personal tastes of people here, etc… are tacky and cheesy. It is very mainstream and heavily commercialized. It’s kind of a big beach “cow town”. And I don’t mean that politically (I’m in the center politically, not left or right).
2. As mentioned above it is a very architecturally UN-inspiring place. It has no quaintness or character. Lot’s of eyesore strip centers, cookie cutter stuff or the crappy 1950’s-1970’s neighborhoods. Like Clairmont for example, I think that place is just so ugly. It is a collection of these nasty 1950’s houses and eye sore strip centers. It’s so hard on the eyes and senses! And even PB, it’s just not attractive, there’s a ton of fast food places and crappy 1960’s apartment buildings.
3. It has the beach, but the water is too cold to swim in 12 mos a year
4. You can’t getaway drive to beautiful pristine mountains and skiing (like you can in say SF, Seattle, Boston, Denver). I think Julian is very, very average and even Idywild and Big Bear is just not that great. It’s NOT Vail CO, Lake Tahoe, The Cascades or Vermont. Not even close. In those cities you can have a getaway cabin or 2nd home you can drive to in 3hrs or less in a super pretty, pastoral, pristine mountain setting.
5. There are ZERO natural lakes or beautiful rivers in Southern Cal. I personally love boating in hanging out around tree lined natural lakes and rivers. There is nothing close to that here.
6. It’s fairly surface oriented and fake here, people are really into stupid s**t like the brand of their cars here. And they wash them constantly (LOL). That has been the rap on SoCal for decades, and it is really true. Not quite as bad as places like Orange County, but close.
7. There is a lot of tackiness and cheesiness here (Like the Gaslamp for example). Fine dining for people is some national chain with 27 gigantic big screen TV’s.
8. B/c it’s the desert it lacks trees, lush grass, greenery… It is very brown here. it’s amazing going back to the New England states in the summer, they are so green and lush compared to here.
9. Lack of a sense of community

So what that guy said from Minneapolis who wants to leave really connected with me. I just find my soul just feels really unfulfilled here. There is just something empty about the place. But there are very cool things about too it like the climate, hills, beach. So it’s kind of a love/hate place for me. The lack of culture and eye sore architecture just kind of “grinds” on you after a while.[/quote]

As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70]A huge part of San Diego is very affordable. But I agree, these areas have a junky, dingy, low end feel. That is one of the interesting aspects of San Diego, it has this great weather, landscape and places like La Jolla…but SOOO much of San Diego are these dingy, dumpy, completely uninspiring places, like all that I listed. But they are very affordable.

There was a person that posted a while back about thinking about moving back to Minneapolis. See a place like MN, even the blue collar neighborhoods have character. They are tree lined streets with interesting older unique homes, grassy lawns, etc… Pleasing to the senses. But the 2nd and 3rd tier neighborhoods in San Diego are just so junky and eyesores. Central El Cajon? Spring Valley? Parts of Vista, Oceanside, etc.. They are just not aesthetically pleasing areas at all.

To me in San Diego you either have these dingy crappy neighborhoods with houses that look like Mississippi sharecropper shacks below $250k, or you have the soulless cookie cutter stuff in North Coutny with strip center shopping and zero uniqueness in the better neighborhoods (Rancho P, RB, Scripps, Eastlake…everywhere!). I think San Diego in general is just very, very un-appealing architecturally. Except for a few small pockets like Bankers Hill, Mission Hills, and maybe Kensington.

I’m personally mixed on San Diego. I’m not one of those people that are “gaa gaa” over San Diego and think it is the greatest place on earth.

Postives:
1. climate (although the lack of seasons has started to bore me terribly)
2. It is a large enough city with a lot to do and has economic diversity and ethnic diversity
3. You have the hilly topography next to ocean which is very cool and unique
4. There is some really nice hiking that is very accessible close to the urban areas of SD
5. The congestion and traffic is not bad here compared to places like Boston, LA, Bay Area, NYC, DC, Seattle, Chicago. It is super easy to get anywhere you need to go in 15-20 minutes, I love that. That is NOT the case in Boston, SF or LA…it can be a HUGE pain to get places.

Negatives:
1. It has a very, very low mentality in general and does not have an intellectual or progressive feel (that say SF, Seattle, Boston, Manhattan have). The values, personal tastes of people here, etc… are tacky and cheesy. It is very mainstream and heavily commercialized. It’s kind of a big beach “cow town”. And I don’t mean that politically (I’m in the center politically, not left or right).
2. As mentioned above it is a very architecturally UN-inspiring place. It has no quaintness or character. Lot’s of eyesore strip centers, cookie cutter stuff or the crappy 1950’s-1970’s neighborhoods. Like Clairmont for example, I think that place is just so ugly. It is a collection of these nasty 1950’s houses and eye sore strip centers. It’s so hard on the eyes and senses! And even PB, it’s just not attractive, there’s a ton of fast food places and crappy 1960’s apartment buildings.
3. It has the beach, but the water is too cold to swim in 12 mos a year
4. You can’t getaway drive to beautiful pristine mountains and skiing (like you can in say SF, Seattle, Boston, Denver). I think Julian is very, very average and even Idywild and Big Bear is just not that great. It’s NOT Vail CO, Lake Tahoe, The Cascades or Vermont. Not even close. In those cities you can have a getaway cabin or 2nd home you can drive to in 3hrs or less in a super pretty, pastoral, pristine mountain setting.
5. There are ZERO natural lakes or beautiful rivers in Southern Cal. I personally love boating in hanging out around tree lined natural lakes and rivers. There is nothing close to that here.
6. It’s fairly surface oriented and fake here, people are really into stupid s**t like the brand of their cars here. And they wash them constantly (LOL). That has been the rap on SoCal for decades, and it is really true. Not quite as bad as places like Orange County, but close.
7. There is a lot of tackiness and cheesiness here (Like the Gaslamp for example). Fine dining for people is some national chain with 27 gigantic big screen TV’s.
8. B/c it’s the desert it lacks trees, lush grass, greenery… It is very brown here. it’s amazing going back to the New England states in the summer, they are so green and lush compared to here.
9. Lack of a sense of community

So what that guy said from Minneapolis who wants to leave really connected with me. I just find my soul just feels really unfulfilled here. There is just something empty about the place. But there are very cool things about too it like the climate, hills, beach. So it’s kind of a love/hate place for me. The lack of culture and eye sore architecture just kind of “grinds” on you after a while.[/quote]

As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70]A huge part of San Diego is very affordable. But I agree, these areas have a junky, dingy, low end feel. That is one of the interesting aspects of San Diego, it has this great weather, landscape and places like La Jolla…but SOOO much of San Diego are these dingy, dumpy, completely uninspiring places, like all that I listed. But they are very affordable.

There was a person that posted a while back about thinking about moving back to Minneapolis. See a place like MN, even the blue collar neighborhoods have character. They are tree lined streets with interesting older unique homes, grassy lawns, etc… Pleasing to the senses. But the 2nd and 3rd tier neighborhoods in San Diego are just so junky and eyesores. Central El Cajon? Spring Valley? Parts of Vista, Oceanside, etc.. They are just not aesthetically pleasing areas at all.

To me in San Diego you either have these dingy crappy neighborhoods with houses that look like Mississippi sharecropper shacks below $250k, or you have the soulless cookie cutter stuff in North Coutny with strip center shopping and zero uniqueness in the better neighborhoods (Rancho P, RB, Scripps, Eastlake…everywhere!). I think San Diego in general is just very, very un-appealing architecturally. Except for a few small pockets like Bankers Hill, Mission Hills, and maybe Kensington.

I’m personally mixed on San Diego. I’m not one of those people that are “gaa gaa” over San Diego and think it is the greatest place on earth.

Postives:
1. climate (although the lack of seasons has started to bore me terribly)
2. It is a large enough city with a lot to do and has economic diversity and ethnic diversity
3. You have the hilly topography next to ocean which is very cool and unique
4. There is some really nice hiking that is very accessible close to the urban areas of SD
5. The congestion and traffic is not bad here compared to places like Boston, LA, Bay Area, NYC, DC, Seattle, Chicago. It is super easy to get anywhere you need to go in 15-20 minutes, I love that. That is NOT the case in Boston, SF or LA…it can be a HUGE pain to get places.

Negatives:
1. It has a very, very low mentality in general and does not have an intellectual or progressive feel (that say SF, Seattle, Boston, Manhattan have). The values, personal tastes of people here, etc… are tacky and cheesy. It is very mainstream and heavily commercialized. It’s kind of a big beach “cow town”. And I don’t mean that politically (I’m in the center politically, not left or right).
2. As mentioned above it is a very architecturally UN-inspiring place. It has no quaintness or character. Lot’s of eyesore strip centers, cookie cutter stuff or the crappy 1950’s-1970’s neighborhoods. Like Clairmont for example, I think that place is just so ugly. It is a collection of these nasty 1950’s houses and eye sore strip centers. It’s so hard on the eyes and senses! And even PB, it’s just not attractive, there’s a ton of fast food places and crappy 1960’s apartment buildings.
3. It has the beach, but the water is too cold to swim in 12 mos a year
4. You can’t getaway drive to beautiful pristine mountains and skiing (like you can in say SF, Seattle, Boston, Denver). I think Julian is very, very average and even Idywild and Big Bear is just not that great. It’s NOT Vail CO, Lake Tahoe, The Cascades or Vermont. Not even close. In those cities you can have a getaway cabin or 2nd home you can drive to in 3hrs or less in a super pretty, pastoral, pristine mountain setting.
5. There are ZERO natural lakes or beautiful rivers in Southern Cal. I personally love boating in hanging out around tree lined natural lakes and rivers. There is nothing close to that here.
6. It’s fairly surface oriented and fake here, people are really into stupid s**t like the brand of their cars here. And they wash them constantly (LOL). That has been the rap on SoCal for decades, and it is really true. Not quite as bad as places like Orange County, but close.
7. There is a lot of tackiness and cheesiness here (Like the Gaslamp for example). Fine dining for people is some national chain with 27 gigantic big screen TV’s.
8. B/c it’s the desert it lacks trees, lush grass, greenery… It is very brown here. it’s amazing going back to the New England states in the summer, they are so green and lush compared to here.
9. Lack of a sense of community

So what that guy said from Minneapolis who wants to leave really connected with me. I just find my soul just feels really unfulfilled here. There is just something empty about the place. But there are very cool things about too it like the climate, hills, beach. So it’s kind of a love/hate place for me. The lack of culture and eye sore architecture just kind of “grinds” on you after a while.[/quote]

As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70]A huge part of San Diego is very affordable. But I agree, these areas have a junky, dingy, low end feel. That is one of the interesting aspects of San Diego, it has this great weather, landscape and places like La Jolla…but SOOO much of San Diego are these dingy, dumpy, completely uninspiring places, like all that I listed. But they are very affordable.

There was a person that posted a while back about thinking about moving back to Minneapolis. See a place like MN, even the blue collar neighborhoods have character. They are tree lined streets with interesting older unique homes, grassy lawns, etc… Pleasing to the senses. But the 2nd and 3rd tier neighborhoods in San Diego are just so junky and eyesores. Central El Cajon? Spring Valley? Parts of Vista, Oceanside, etc.. They are just not aesthetically pleasing areas at all.

To me in San Diego you either have these dingy crappy neighborhoods with houses that look like Mississippi sharecropper shacks below $250k, or you have the soulless cookie cutter stuff in North Coutny with strip center shopping and zero uniqueness in the better neighborhoods (Rancho P, RB, Scripps, Eastlake…everywhere!). I think San Diego in general is just very, very un-appealing architecturally. Except for a few small pockets like Bankers Hill, Mission Hills, and maybe Kensington.

I’m personally mixed on San Diego. I’m not one of those people that are “gaa gaa” over San Diego and think it is the greatest place on earth.

Postives:
1. climate (although the lack of seasons has started to bore me terribly)
2. It is a large enough city with a lot to do and has economic diversity and ethnic diversity
3. You have the hilly topography next to ocean which is very cool and unique
4. There is some really nice hiking that is very accessible close to the urban areas of SD
5. The congestion and traffic is not bad here compared to places like Boston, LA, Bay Area, NYC, DC, Seattle, Chicago. It is super easy to get anywhere you need to go in 15-20 minutes, I love that. That is NOT the case in Boston, SF or LA…it can be a HUGE pain to get places.

Negatives:
1. It has a very, very low mentality in general and does not have an intellectual or progressive feel (that say SF, Seattle, Boston, Manhattan have). The values, personal tastes of people here, etc… are tacky and cheesy. It is very mainstream and heavily commercialized. It’s kind of a big beach “cow town”. And I don’t mean that politically (I’m in the center politically, not left or right).
2. As mentioned above it is a very architecturally UN-inspiring place. It has no quaintness or character. Lot’s of eyesore strip centers, cookie cutter stuff or the crappy 1950’s-1970’s neighborhoods. Like Clairmont for example, I think that place is just so ugly. It is a collection of these nasty 1950’s houses and eye sore strip centers. It’s so hard on the eyes and senses! And even PB, it’s just not attractive, there’s a ton of fast food places and crappy 1960’s apartment buildings.
3. It has the beach, but the water is too cold to swim in 12 mos a year
4. You can’t getaway drive to beautiful pristine mountains and skiing (like you can in say SF, Seattle, Boston, Denver). I think Julian is very, very average and even Idywild and Big Bear is just not that great. It’s NOT Vail CO, Lake Tahoe, The Cascades or Vermont. Not even close. In those cities you can have a getaway cabin or 2nd home you can drive to in 3hrs or less in a super pretty, pastoral, pristine mountain setting.
5. There are ZERO natural lakes or beautiful rivers in Southern Cal. I personally love boating in hanging out around tree lined natural lakes and rivers. There is nothing close to that here.
6. It’s fairly surface oriented and fake here, people are really into stupid s**t like the brand of their cars here. And they wash them constantly (LOL). That has been the rap on SoCal for decades, and it is really true. Not quite as bad as places like Orange County, but close.
7. There is a lot of tackiness and cheesiness here (Like the Gaslamp for example). Fine dining for people is some national chain with 27 gigantic big screen TV’s.
8. B/c it’s the desert it lacks trees, lush grass, greenery… It is very brown here. it’s amazing going back to the New England states in the summer, they are so green and lush compared to here.
9. Lack of a sense of community

So what that guy said from Minneapolis who wants to leave really connected with me. I just find my soul just feels really unfulfilled here. There is just something empty about the place. But there are very cool things about too it like the climate, hills, beach. So it’s kind of a love/hate place for me. The lack of culture and eye sore architecture just kind of “grinds” on you after a while.[/quote]

As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.

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