100,000 living for free in Inland Empire

[scaredyclassic]

i mean, what really is the harm? we have lot sof food, lots of places to stay. let people hang out. i guess eventually you could argue the whole country would just be hanging out, but i doubt it. people would stillw ant to do better than the dole. but a lot of people wont be able to …so let people rent cheap places, hang out, grow vegetables, drink coffee all day and discuss art and politics, read books, stare at the clouds, do yoga. change the word “unemployment” though, because this new regime should not be relatedin any way to employment. the word unemployment is bad, since it implies a lack, this is to say, an absence of employment. If one is unemployed, then the term implies that you should go get employed and stop being void of employment….this new situation should be disconnected from employment. “anti-employment” is too charged, and will still remind people that they are without employment.

welfare is too pejorative.

how about “freedom payments”?

the dole?

“national extended vacation time”.

“Hang out pay”?

this paradigm change, coupled with legalized marijuana this fall in california, has the potential to usher in a golden era of hanging out in the USA. I gotta go to work right now though.

[jpinpb]

My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.

[jpinpb]

My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.

[jpinpb]

My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.

[jpinpb]

My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.

[jpinpb]

My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.

[UCGal]

[quote=pabloesqobar]A friend of mine just received another extension – which will take her to 2 years of unemployment benefits. She loves it. They file the extensions automatically for her. Until the benefits come to an end, she has no reason to find a job. If they decided to block her extension of benefits, I don’t see how she could argue that she was being thrown under the bus.[/quote]

Your friend must have cheap living conditions. A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.

And your friends experience with the EDD department is the opposite of the experience my husband had… If he had work for a week – he didn’t want to claim – so they’d kick him out of the system temporarily… till they could do a phone call a month later to ask why he didn’t claim that week – in the meantime he collected nothing…. Very frustrating. Nothing automatic.

[UCGal]

[quote=pabloesqobar]A friend of mine just received another extension – which will take her to 2 years of unemployment benefits. She loves it. They file the extensions automatically for her. Until the benefits come to an end, she has no reason to find a job. If they decided to block her extension of benefits, I don’t see how she could argue that she was being thrown under the bus.[/quote]

Your friend must have cheap living conditions. A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.

And your friends experience with the EDD department is the opposite of the experience my husband had… If he had work for a week – he didn’t want to claim – so they’d kick him out of the system temporarily… till they could do a phone call a month later to ask why he didn’t claim that week – in the meantime he collected nothing…. Very frustrating. Nothing automatic.

[UCGal]

[quote=pabloesqobar]A friend of mine just received another extension – which will take her to 2 years of unemployment benefits. She loves it. They file the extensions automatically for her. Until the benefits come to an end, she has no reason to find a job. If they decided to block her extension of benefits, I don’t see how she could argue that she was being thrown under the bus.[/quote]

Your friend must have cheap living conditions. A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.

And your friends experience with the EDD department is the opposite of the experience my husband had… If he had work for a week – he didn’t want to claim – so they’d kick him out of the system temporarily… till they could do a phone call a month later to ask why he didn’t claim that week – in the meantime he collected nothing…. Very frustrating. Nothing automatic.

[UCGal]

[quote=pabloesqobar]A friend of mine just received another extension – which will take her to 2 years of unemployment benefits. She loves it. They file the extensions automatically for her. Until the benefits come to an end, she has no reason to find a job. If they decided to block her extension of benefits, I don’t see how she could argue that she was being thrown under the bus.[/quote]

Your friend must have cheap living conditions. A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.

And your friends experience with the EDD department is the opposite of the experience my husband had… If he had work for a week – he didn’t want to claim – so they’d kick him out of the system temporarily… till they could do a phone call a month later to ask why he didn’t claim that week – in the meantime he collected nothing…. Very frustrating. Nothing automatic.

[UCGal]

[quote=pabloesqobar]A friend of mine just received another extension – which will take her to 2 years of unemployment benefits. She loves it. They file the extensions automatically for her. Until the benefits come to an end, she has no reason to find a job. If they decided to block her extension of benefits, I don’t see how she could argue that she was being thrown under the bus.[/quote]

Your friend must have cheap living conditions. A good friend of mine was laid off last April. She has been ACTIVELY looking for work ever since… Not just limited to IT, but willing to do anything. Her unemployment covers her mortgage… barely. ($450/week doesn’t go far.) She’s single with a grown son with health issues. They’re using food banks, etc to get buy. Her 401k has been diminished. This is a woman who’s only debt was her mortgage (no CC debt, no car payments, no student loans.) Her mortgage was pretty reasonable. But she’s hurting.

And your friends experience with the EDD department is the opposite of the experience my husband had… If he had work for a week – he didn’t want to claim – so they’d kick him out of the system temporarily… till they could do a phone call a month later to ask why he didn’t claim that week – in the meantime he collected nothing…. Very frustrating. Nothing automatic.

[UCGal]

[quote=jpinpb]My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with this. I would not object to some of the stim money being used, WPA style, to improve infrastructure… at least that way taxpayers get the benefits of works projects (roads/dams/etc.). Much of SDSU was built under the WPA.

[UCGal]

[quote=jpinpb]My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with this. I would not object to some of the stim money being used, WPA style, to improve infrastructure… at least that way taxpayers get the benefits of works projects (roads/dams/etc.). Much of SDSU was built under the WPA.

[UCGal]

[quote=jpinpb]My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with this. I would not object to some of the stim money being used, WPA style, to improve infrastructure… at least that way taxpayers get the benefits of works projects (roads/dams/etc.). Much of SDSU was built under the WPA.

[UCGal]

[quote=jpinpb]My take on unemployment is it should be temporary and as a requirement of receiving it, you must be attending some kind of job training/education. I would not be opposed w/government job assitance program. I firmly believe not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.

Right now my cousin who worked since he was 15 years old at a factory (30 years of his life) has been unemployed for over a year, collecting unemployment and babysitting his kids while wife works (she always has, not just started since the factory closed). He has pretty much come out and said that as long as he gets unemployment, he doesn’t care about getting a job. He has had no education since high school. No motivation to learn a new skill.

I just don’t agree w/this.[/quote]

I don’t disagree with this. I would not object to some of the stim money being used, WPA style, to improve infrastructure… at least that way taxpayers get the benefits of works projects (roads/dams/etc.). Much of SDSU was built under the WPA.

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