[quote=XBoxBoy][quote=flu]
Fair???? Fair is subjective….From people that aren’t existing home owners, the “fair” thing to do perhaps do everything possible to crater home prices (though personally, I don’t think it will). Once a homeowner, the “fair” thing to do is to keep prop 13.
I’m pretty confident that
1)People who are against prop 13 aren’t currently owners.
2)Once people who use to be against prop 13 own a home, they will more or less sing a completely different tune….
So again, I think any “fairness” argument is subjective
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Sorry flu, but I gotta strongly disagree on several points. First as an example, I am a homeowner and I’m against prop 13. I was against it from when I first heard about it (and was a renter) and I’m still against it now that I’m a homeowner.
I don’t think “fairness” is that subjective. Fairness would mean that everyone contributes to the greater good to a similar degree. We could argue about how we measure the amount people contribute, ie, we could argue if we measure based on ability to contribute or on dollar amount, but what we have now with prop 13 is neither. This may not be visible in newer neighborhoods, but in places like La Jolla, it is amazingly out of whack whatever method you use to compare contribution.
I do think jp has a point that if we repeal prop 13 then property taxes will just go up, and that’s worse. I don’t know if that’s true, but at least it’s a sensible argument. But to argue that prop 13 is not unfair, well, sorry, that’s just too much nonsense.
XboxBoy[/quote]
I respect your opinion. But until I’, consider support repealing prop 13 IF
1) those people enjoy those nice pensions consider giving those up
2) we stop giving social services/benefits to people who are not legal residence.
3) we stop giving in-state “tuitions” discounts to people who live in CA but are not here legally (versus someone here legally from another state)…
Unless the state is serious about going on a statewide austerity measure, every special interest tax a specific area is just meaningless…It’s like trying to put a bandage on a missing limb..
And folks that champion taxing one particular piece without addressing the other parts are just pretending to be generous with other people’s money, since it doesn’t directly impact themselves. Hence why I think picking one of the three without dealing with the others is purely subjective “fair”.
Again no matter. Prop 13 won’t get repealed. Because in CA, I’m sure if even it was overturned, a lawsuit would ensure to reverse the decision anyway by a judge.
So we’ll just wait until the state runs out of money…