[quote=squat250]personally, ive never felt or experienced any need to go faster.
slow is beautiful.
i did attempt to buy one yesterday but was thwarted by the failure to agree on a price. We got stuck about $600.00 apart. I felt misled by a dealer’s promise to beat another dealer’s quote. I’d rather not go into the details of who and what, but…perhaps the internet hasn’t changed everything. I thought we had an agreement in principle and they thought I was just another dude to work over with four square boxes (although they put that away pretty fast when I told them to…) and repeat trips to the back room to implore their manager to sell a car.
Ah well…[/quote]
Scardey..don’t step inside a dealership without an email/contract with out the door price already in hand.
Go back to the thread I talked about. You should be able to do everything over email these days. When I dealt with buying cars, I had the internet sales/fleet sales email a price quote. And I always ask for OTD pricing telling them I live in San Diego with SD sales tax (versus L.A. county sales tax).
(Always ask for OTD pricing. One trick stealers love to play is tell you XXXX below invoice, and than tack on/pad a bunch of marketing/sales fee…Some brands might have them, but you’ll find out once you compare versus other dealers…)
Some dealers will insist on you coming in. Don’t…They’re the stealerships that are trying to get you in, wear you down, waste your time, play all these stupid “old salesman” games…Usually old salesman/women do this. Also, some salesman/women try to place the race card.. Hey I’m chinese too, I get you a good deal and even go as far as try to speak your dialect. Flu says..Um, no thank you..Unless you speaka engrisha, get me a new sales person please.
Tell them you don’t have time to waste coming in, you have 3-4 other dealers that sent your their prices over email, and if you don’t that’s fine, I won’t buy from you..More than often, they will send it. It takes no time, and if they can beat the price, they will. And if they won’t they won’t and you can move on. Because it doesn’t take much time for them to haggle…The only type of sales people I now that still employ to old “drag people into showroom” are the old fart salesman/woman who probably doesn’t even know what the internet is.
Same old fart salespeople that (if they aren’t successful in gouging you will say some bullshit like “maybe you’re too young and not ready to buy a real car”. To which, you should have no problem breaking character and say “fvck you, you old fart sales prick”…
Most folks who are in the internet/sales dept don’t want to waste time haggling either because they figure they can move a lot more cars a lot more quickly via email than having someone show up in person.
Honda’s are good because there soo many dealerships. If you want a reference, I have a dealership in L.A… A classmate’s parents one’s that one i think..
Before you go into the dealership, you should already have the OTD pricing agreed, the salesperson should have already faxed you the sales contract, with the exact car’s VIN and mileage. Even stupid shit like if he’s going to have to move a car from one dealer to another, you must have in writing that it will be flatbedded, not “driven” from one dealership to another by some porter….You can even put a deposit down on credit card and with the “written” note that it is fully refundable if you don’t like the car for any reason the day you show up.
Show up with your printed emails, printed invoice, etc. DO NOT ADD/CHANCE anything once you are at the dealership. Just pick up the car, make sure the vin matches, make sure the mileage is correct, and make sure there’s no body damage/etc. Say “no thank you” to the nice lady in the financing office who tries to upsell you an extended warranty, uncoating, vin etching, blah blah blah blah blah (insert your favorite bullshit pad item here)….
If the stealer deviates from the invoice they gave you, find the sales director and raise hell and threaten you have written proof and threaten to sue. Trust me, it won’t get to that point…IF you already have everything in writing…In fact, you might even throw in a hint or to that you are an attorney..That also usually does the trick…
Get it in writing before you show up at the stealership. Otherwise, you’re just wasting time.
Especially if you are buying a toyota or honda. Toyota stealerships are the worst. Honda’s are close #2.