San Jose downtown is exactly what I’m talking about. Its a downtown. You can use San Diego as an example too. But Carmel valley is a suburb, not a city. It doesn’t have an area zoned for high density mixed used to start with.
I’m not sure if that definition holds. A lot of East Coast and Midwestern suburbs do have downtowns with mixed use, and have had for 100 years![/quote]I know they do, but not a lot of the West Coast suburbs especially San Diego. A lot of the suburbs in San Diego are also huge relative to some of the cities in the bay area. Yet, none of these suburb have a downtown or village center of their own, where you get denser mixed use properties.