[quote=spdrun]Are the properties with the high HOA fees co-ops, maybe. If so, the HOA may include taxes and other things (hvac, electricity, cooking gas, water).
$800/mo for a studio (generally inclusive of all expenses) isn’t unusual for an apt in NY.[/quote]
In SD County, condo HOAs normally pay only water/sewer (on the same bill in the City of SD) for each owner excepting in some older downtown SD mid-rise complexes. These complexes were built before they were able to get access to cable so may have DSL internet access and TV service from satellite, which are included in the monthly dues.
It is possible that one or more of these complexes now have access to AT&T “U-verse” or cable and if so, at least basic cable and “advanced TV” (with HiDef converter box) is included in the dues.
I don’t know how many of the streets down there have actually had fibre optic installed but would surmise that all of the streets in the construction zones around Petco Park have.
Gas/electric (including AC) are NOT included in HOA dues. Timeshares are the exception.
We don’t have “co-ops” in SD County or use propane (except in very rural areas).
UR, or others “in the know,” correct me if I’m wrong here.