[quote=sdgrrl]Conservatives are not bad. Many of the people who have hijacked it are bad to me based on:
Mixing religion with policy.
Using prejudices against homosexuality as a political platform.
Having an uberhawkish foreign policy.
Turning a blind eye to their own spending
These are facts and when they can get their ideals realigned I would be very happy to rethink my opinions of them.
Liberals are bad on:
Many want an open border with Mexico.
Tax the hell out of Corporations.
Impose to many restrictions and laws.
Are quite aware of their own spending.[/quote]
Sdgrrl: I don’t think liberals are bad at all. I do, however, think leftists are bad and that’s what I argue consistently against.
I don’t argue that healthcare in this country has issues and that we need to make changes. This has been on the agenda for decades and both parties have been unsuccessful in advancing it.
Where Obama and his cadre of loyal Dems are running into trouble is their insistence, over the protests of citizens and the opposition (Dem and Repub) alike, that their plan is the right one and needs to be passed. I think a large amount of people, conservative AND liberal, disagree, but we’re being marginalized by folks like Hoyer and Pelosi and not allowed to participate in either the dialogue or the process.
This is where my anti-leftist “bias” kicks in, for this is as leftist as it comes. Don’t engage in free and fair discussions, rather, attack and attempt to discredit your opposition (use of knee-jerk and jingoistic terms like “un-American”, “angry mobs” carrying “swastikas” (Pelosi). And, yes, I know the counter-argument regarding Republicans using the same tactics, but it doesn’t make it right, either.
There is a strong wave of popular anger sweeping this country and it is on the rise. Obamacare is DOA until such time as the President himself steps up and steps in and takes control of this. Rather than multiple bills floating around on the Hill, he needs to draft a bill, present it to the American people and lay out each and every component of it, with explanations for each.
This idea of having a 1,000 page behemoth that few, if any, legislators have fully read or even understand being rammed through Congress at breakneck speed is alarming, and rightfully so. Not rightfully so if you’re a conservative or a liberal, but rightfully so if you’re a thinking rational person. Healthcare represents 1/6th of our entire economy and deserves the same amount of thoughtful, reasoned dialogue and then action.
