[quote=sdduuuude][quote=CA renter][quote=sdduuuude][quote=jpinpb]pri_dk – my brother is involved in the auto industry and claims union as the problem. Couple of questions that maybe you can give me some feedback/answers. How many factory auto workers are living in mansions and fly in private jets?
Should labor be brought to the low levels of third world countries, working conditions and pay, so that the head guys at corporations can continue to enjoy their rich lifestyle?
When companies are making record profits off the backs of workers in third world countries, tax breaks by our government that the rich paid politicians to pass and the loss of jobs here, do you really still hold on to the unions being the cause of these problems?
Should our labor (pay and conditions) be as cheap as third world countries so we can keep jobs and companies can make record profits?[/quote]
Unions serving government seem to be the problem, not so much unions serving corporations. As far as I’m concerned, the unions and corporations can battle it out in their own way. Both are private enterprises, really.
Unions serving government, however, seem vey crooked to me. The unions gain a monopoly on providing services, they block individuals from working in their area, then trade votes for higher wages. It is true thug behavior and needs to stop. Unions serving government are really an unregulated monopoly. Not sure how anyone can love that.
Because fat-cat corporate officials supply the funds for corporate union workers, I can understand how you might side with the union there. However every-day taxpayers bear the brunt of paying public union wages. In a sense, the union is the private corportion here, milking the public coffers and taxpayers.[/quote]
Do you think private corporations aren’t guilty of gaining a monopoly on services, blocking individuals (or other buisinesses/entities) from working in their area, and trading votes (or campaign contributions) for higher pay (contracts, etc.)?[/quote]
Whether I think that or not isn’t relevant to the point I was trying to make – that unionized labor fighting against government employers is much much worse than unionized labor fighting against private employers and needs to be stopped.
But I don’t think corporations can block anyone else from working in their area the way unions can. If I’m a teacher, I cannot approach the city and ask for a job. I must go through the union to get the government contract. If I am an aerospace worker, I can work for one of many different private firms that each may have several government contracts.[/quote]
Teachers apply with the district, not the union. In some cases (but not all) you are automatically assigned union membership when you accept a position with a public school district.
As UCGal said, you can either work for a non-union charter school or a private school. The vast majority of people who apply for a position with a public school district are doing it specifically because there IS a union. You always have the option of working for lower pay and benefits in a non-union position…though I’m not quite sure why anyone would choose to do so.